Pronunciation (Kuja (Mars) homam manual available now)

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Namaste Narasimha Garu !!!

 

>YOU will pronounce it as

> " shav " . Please note that the second symbol in " shava " is identical

to the

> first symbol in " vasha " . However, YOU end up pronouncing that

symbol as " v "

 

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>South Indians have

>their own corruptions, but this is a place where south Indians are

>correct.

 

while reading the above two paragraphs, i could feel your displeasure

and excitement. I am sorry if i gave a wrong impression by mentioning

the word 'South Indian' in my post. infact i am by nature against all

these differences of South-north, shaivaites-vaishnavites, brahmin-

non brahmin etc.... i innocently asked you what was in my percieved

knowledge. it was never to belittle people from some part of india or

to create any differences of SouthIndian or North indian. I wouldn't

even dream of that. we've had enough differences amongst ourselves

which made us conquered race for nearly 2000 years.

 

I thought that you, as a sanskrit scholar, would be the fittest

person to shed light on the subject but I must say that you reacted

passionately. you missed guilelessness in my post and instead gave an

impression that i was creating rift. you seems to have been pained

by 'south indian' word.

 

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I would carefully look in to the attachment and come back to you for

any query.

 

forgive me, if a Shishya shouldn't have written such words

 

Spiritually yours,

 

Utpal

 

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Dear Utpal,

>

> The mispronunciation of consonants with " a " occurring at the end of

words is

> so ingrained in your common sense that your understanding of

Devanagari

> script itself is filled with mistakes.

>

> Look at the enclosed picture (devanagari.jpg). It has six words -

shava,

> vasha, shav, vash, shiva and shiv. Each word is written in

Devanagari script

> and then in English.

>

> Though the first word in that picture is " shava " , YOU will

pronounce it as

> " shav " . Please note that the second symbol in " shava " is identical

to the

> first symbol in " vasha " . However, YOU end up pronouncing that

symbol as " v "

> in the first word and as " va " in the second word. You pronounce the

same

> symbol as " va " in some cases and as " v " in some cases. But please

note that

> Sanskrit is not like English and each symbol has a unique

pronunciation. If

> you pronounce correctly, that symbol is pronounced identically

(as " va " ) in

> both words. If you really want it to be " v " (without a), it should

be

> written differently (as at the end of 3rd and 6th words in the

picture).

>

> Please go through the six examples carefully to know how to write

things in

> Devanagari correctly.

>

> Bottomline: Things like " Raam " or " Shiv Uvaach " are wrong and mean

nothing

> in Sanskrit. The Arabic influence on some modern Indian languages

(e.g.

> Hindi) that use the same script as Sanskrit corrupted people 's

> pronunciation of Sanskrit. What are pronounced by people as " Raam "

and " Shiv

> Uvaach " should actually be " Raama " and " Shiva Uvaacha " . South

Indians have

> their own corruptions, but this is a place where south Indians are

correct.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

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>

>

> -

> " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak

>

> Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:13 AM

> Re: Kuja (Mars) homam manual available now

>

>

> > Rao Garu!!!

> >

> > I was always thinking that it is due to South Indian Accent,

people

> > of that part of india say Raama instead of Raam. Krishna instead

of

> > Krishna.

> >

> > I've a explanation for that. In devanagari script, (Take instance

of

> > Gita) it id written Krishn and not Krishna. another example is

Durga

> > Saptashati where it says " Shiv Uvvach " and not " Shiva Uvvach "

> >

> > please clear my doubts.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Utpal

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Hari,

> >>

> >> Repeating any combination of syllables with a focussed mind will

> > eventually do the trick on the mind. So you may do either.

> >>

> >> However, some combinations tried by others successfully in the

past

> > are better and faster.

> >>

> >> Regarding the specific mantra below: The words " raam " and " jay "

> > (or " jai " ) have no meaning in Sanskrit. They should be " raama "

> > and " jaya " respectively. Arabic has words mostly ending in

consonants

> > (i.e. no vowel " a " at the end of the word). That Arabic influence

> > made Indians change Sanskrit words to remove " a " at the end of

> > words. " Jaya Raama " becomes " Jay Raam " .

> >>

> >> If you want your mantra to be meaningful in Sanskrit, please

> > restore " a " at the end of words. The correct version of the mantra

> > is " Sree Raama Jaya Raama Jaya Jaya Raama " . You can add " Om " at

the

> > beginning.

> >>

> >> * * *

> >>

> >> On our India trip in the summer of 2008, I and my guru went to

many

> > temples. There was one remote temple in BriahdDwaraka that had a

nice

> > level of spiritual vibrations. It is a temple of Hanuman and

> > Makaradhwaja (Hanuman's son) together. Apparently some yogi did

> > intense sadhana there for a few decades in the past (with the

mantra

> > you mentioned). The mantra above is written all over the walls of

the

> > temple.

> >>

> >> Though that yogi is not there now, the vibrations created by his

> > sadhana are still there. We were quite impressed when we spent

some

> > time there. You have to take a boat to go from Dwaarakaa to

> > BrihadDwaarakaa and then go inside the village (a few km from the

> > main Krishna temple at BrihadDwaarakaa). It is a very small temple

> > without any crowd, but has stronger spiritual energy than many

famous

> > temples. If any of you go to Dwaraka or Gujarat in general, I

> > recommend visiting that temple and spending a couple of hours

there.

> >>

> >> The mantra you gave reminded me of that temple.

> >>

> >> Best regards,

> >> Narasimha

> >> --------------------------------

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> >> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> >> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> >> Spirituality:

> >> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> >> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> >> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> >> --------------------------------

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> >>

> >> -

> >> Jyotisa Shisya

> >>

> >> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:48 AM

> >> Re: Kuja (Mars) homam manual available

now

> >>

> >>

> >> |om|

> >> Dear Fellow travellers, namaste

> >>

> >>

> >> All this talk about Mangal reminds me about one question I've

had

> > for quite sometime. Sometime ago, Sanjayji had advised me to go to

> > any Hanuman temple and get a mantra for lifting up the Mangal in

my

> > natal chart which suffers from rajabhanga (uccha in rasi and

neecha

> > in navamsa). When I visited the Hanuman deity in Sri Veetirundha

> > Perumal temple, Thirumazhisai near Chennai and asked the priest

about

> > a mantra, he advised me to chant the mantra inscribed on the

walls of

> > the temple |sri ram jaya ram jaya jaya ram| which comes out to be

a 7

> > word, 10 aksharas mantra. Energy from the 7th house to the 10th

house

> > with the mantra devata sitting in lagna as per mantra shastra

> > teachings. I've been doing this every evening since.

> >>

> >>

> >> Later I came to know this is the Rama taraka mantra. My

question

> > is how does this mantra help to counter the rajabhanga of Mangal?

> >>

> >>

> >> Secondly what is the correct form of the Rama taraka mantra?

Is it

> >>

> >>

> >> |om sri ram jaya ram jaya jaya ram| - 8 words, 11 aksharas

> >>

> >>

> >> or

> >>

> >>

> >> |om sri rama jaya rama jaya jaya rama|? - 8 words, 14 aksharas

> >>

> >>

> >> Some say it should be 13 aksharas....

> >>

> >>

> >> Sorry for astrological content in this mail.

> >>

> >>

> >> best regards

> >> Hari

>