Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Namaste In the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as: om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä| Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean? In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows: om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama|| What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa? -Regards Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Dear Rajarshi, The word yoginyaadibhyaH means " to Yoginis etc " and devataabhyaH means " to deities " . The full line means " I offer to Yoginis etc deities in the family of Chandi " . This is an alternative to the 100+ aahutis to individual deities in the family. Giving all the 100 aahutis takes about 5 min if one knows all the names by heart and longer if one has to read from a printout. But, if one wants to save time, one can just offer one aahuti to all of them together. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14 Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:40 PM A query on parivara devata mantra Namaste In the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as: om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä| Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean? In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows: om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama|| What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa? -Regards Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear Narasmihaji In the Shiva homa mantra there was the "Sadashiva parivar devatabhay idam na mama". This part was not there in the line in Chandi homa. I was wondering is there any special spiritual/scriptural reason for the same? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 7:22 AM Dear Rajarshi,The word yoginyaadibhyaH means "to Yoginis etc" and devataabhyaH means "to deities". The full line means "I offer to Yoginis etc deities in the family of Chandi". This is an alternative to the 100+ aahutis to individual deities in the family. Giving all the 100 aahutis takes about 5 min if one knows all the names by heart and longer if one has to read from a printout. But, if one wants to save time, one can just offer one aahuti to all of them together.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in><>Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:40 PM A query on parivara devata mantraNamasteIn the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as:om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä|Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean?In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows:om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama||What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa?-RegardsRajarshi Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Namaste, There is no reason for it. You can add the "idam na mama" part in the parivaara devata aahutis of Chandi homam too, or remove them in Shiva homam. In general, whenever you say "I offer this to x" (x-aaya swaahaa), you can also add at the end: "this is for x and not mine" (x-aaya idam na mama). That is optional. * * * Irrespective of which version you use, mentally visualizing the entity to which you are making the offering is more helpful than the exact words uttered. For example, we make offerings to Agni, Vaayu and Surya in uttaraangam of a homam, right? You can imagine the three gods as you make the offerings. Fire god transforms various subtle factors into this gross world and has dominion over the bhU loka. When saying "om bhUH swaahaa, agnaya idam na mama", imagine a deity who transforms one thing into another and who has transformed subtle elements into this material world we see around us. Wind god causes motion. He causes motion in something made essentially of Brahman - mind - and this mind starts seeing various objects within Brahman due to its motion. If there is no motion in it, it will be absorbed in Brahman. When saying "om bhuvaH swaahaa, vaayava idam na mama", imagine a deity who causes motion in mind made of Brahman to enable it to experience the world. Sun god is the soul of the universe. He is the source of all light, but his light is difficult to directly stare at. His light when reflected by other things is easier to see. Similarly, soul radiates brilliant light that is tough to get close to (unless you are a Hanumaan) and the light is received in limited forms as reflected by various things. When saying "om suvaH swaahaa, sUryaayedam na mama", imagine a deity who fills the universe as its soul. * * * The words, the instruments and the actions in rituals are designed to evoke certain thoughts and certain visualization. Instead of getting too caught in the superficial details, try to delve deep into the meaning and start to visualize. That will help the mind get a better perspective of the universe and progress faster. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - rajarshi nandy Monday, May 25, 2009 11:58 PM Re: Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Dear Narasmihaji In the Shiva homa mantra there was the "Sadashiva parivar devatabhay idam na mama". This part was not there in the line in Chandi homa. I was wondering is there any special spiritual/scriptural reason for the same? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 7:22 AM Dear Rajarshi,The word yoginyaadibhyaH means "to Yoginis etc" and devataabhyaH means "to deities". The full line means "I offer to Yoginis etc deities in the family of Chandi". This is an alternative to the 100+ aahutis to individual deities in the family. Giving all the 100 aahutis takes about 5 min if one knows all the names by heart and longer if one has to read from a printout. But, if one wants to save time, one can just offer one aahuti to all of them together.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in><>Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:40 PM A query on parivara devata mantraNamasteIn the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as:om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä|Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean?In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows:om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama||What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa?-RegardsRajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Thank you for this fantastic explanation. Makes a LOT of sense! The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 27/5/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 6:01 AM Namaste, There is no reason for it. You can add the "idam na mama" part in the parivaara devata aahutis of Chandi homam too, or remove them in Shiva homam. In general, whenever you say "I offer this to x" (x-aaya swaahaa), you can also add at the end: "this is for x and not mine" (x-aaya idam na mama). That is optional. * * * Irrespective of which version you use, mentally visualizing the entity to which you are making the offering is more helpful than the exact words uttered. For example, we make offerings to Agni, Vaayu and Surya in uttaraangam of a homam, right? You can imagine the three gods as you make the offerings. Fire god transforms various subtle factors into this gross world and has dominion over the bhU loka. When saying "om bhUH swaahaa, agnaya idam na mama", imagine a deity who transforms one thing into another and who has transformed subtle elements into this material world we see around us. Wind god causes motion. He causes motion in something made essentially of Brahman - mind - and this mind starts seeing various objects within Brahman due to its motion. If there is no motion in it, it will be absorbed in Brahman. When saying "om bhuvaH swaahaa, vaayava idam na mama", imagine a deity who causes motion in mind made of Brahman to enable it to experience the world. Sun god is the soul of the universe. He is the source of all light, but his light is difficult to directly stare at. His light when reflected by other things is easier to see. Similarly, soul radiates brilliant light that is tough to get close to (unless you are a Hanumaan) and the light is received in limited forms as reflected by various things. When saying "om suvaH swaahaa, sUryaayedam na mama", imagine a deity who fills the universe as its soul. * * * The words, the instruments and the actions in rituals are designed to evoke certain thoughts and certain visualization. Instead of getting too caught in the superficial details, try to delve deep into the meaning and start to visualize. That will help the mind get a better perspective of the universe and progress faster. Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - rajarshi nandy Monday, May 25, 2009 11:58 PM Re: Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Dear Narasmihaji In the Shiva homa mantra there was the "Sadashiva parivar devatabhay idam na mama". This part was not there in the line in Chandi homa. I was wondering is there any special spiritual/scriptura l reason for the same? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> Re: A query on parivara devata mantraMonday, 25 May, 2009, 7:22 AM Dear Rajarshi,The word yoginyaadibhyaH means "to Yoginis etc" and devataabhyaH means "to deities". The full line means "I offer to Yoginis etc deities in the family of Chandi". This is an alternative to the 100+ aahutis to individual deities in the family. Giving all the 100 aahutis takes about 5 min if one knows all the names by heart and longer if one has to read from a printout. But, if one wants to save time, one can just offer one aahuti to all of them together.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in><@ . com>Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:40 PM A query on parivara devata mantraNamasteIn the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as:om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä|Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean?In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows:om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama||What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa?-RegardsRajarshi Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Narasimhaji, I've a humble request. Not sure if all in this community are familiar with Sanskrit. I appologize as I'm not. While chanting the mantras, I keep wondering it would have been really helpful to know the meanings of these and feel it from the heart. Would it be possible for you (or any knowledgeable person from this forum) to add the meanings for the homam slokas to the manual? This would be enlightening. Warm Regards Anup --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: A query on parivara devata mantra Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 8:52 PM Dear Rajarshi,The word yoginyaadibhyaH means "to Yoginis etc" and devataabhyaH means "to deities". The full line means "I offer to Yoginis etc deities in the family of Chandi". This is an alternative to the 100+ aahutis to individual deities in the family. Giving all the 100 aahutis takes about 5 min if one knows all the names by heart and longer if one has to read from a printout. But, if one wants to save time, one can just offer one aahuti to all of them together.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in><>Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:40 PM A query on parivara devata mantraNamasteIn the Chandi homa manual, the one line mantra for parivara debata ahuti is mentioned as:om yoginyädibhyaù caëòikä parivära devatäbhyo namaù svähä|Whatd does the word yoginyädibhyaù and devatbhyo mean?In the Shiva homa manual that one line is mentioned as follows:om sadäçiva parivära devatäbhyaù svähä| sadäçiva parivära devatäbhya idaà na mama||What is the difference in the meaning and relevance of usage of the two mantras for parivar devata ahuti for Chandi homa and Shiva homa?-RegardsRajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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