Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Narayan, Thanks for the verse from Munda Maalaa Tantra. Out of all planet-mahavidya mappings I have seen, this is the most philosophically sound mapping. Sun - Taaraa - Raama Moon - Kaali - Krishna Mars - Bhairavi - Nrisimha Mercury - Maatangi - Buddha Jupiter - Dhumaavati - Vaamana Venus - Chhinnamastaa - Bhaargava Rama Saturn - Bagalamukhi - Koorma Rahu - Bhuvaneswari - Varaaha Ketu - Kamala - Matsya * * * Vidya is knowledge. Mahavidya is supreme knowledge. Dasa mahavidyas are the ten highest forms of knowledge that take us to moksha or liberation, approaching from different angles. Other kinds of knowledge (e.g. mathematics, physics, astronomy, astrology, grammar etc) do not liberate us. But these ten kinds of knowledge liberate us. The deities (names and forms described in books for ten mahavidyas) are personifications of those ten types of supreme knowledge that liberate us. * * * Please note one thing here. Moksha means overcoming the maayaa of the duality around us. Seeing some things as desirable, some as undesirable, some as pleasurable, some as painful, some as beautiful, some as ugly etc is what binds us. Overcoming the duality and seeing all as Brahman is liberation or moksha. Different planets represent different aspects of our selves. The duality around us and the way to overcome it seem different from different angles. From the point of view of individual soul (Sun), this maayaa is something that needs to be overcome by crossing and reaching the other end (supreme cosmic soul). From the point of view of mind (Moon), this duality is something that clouds the vision and needs to be destroyed so that it cannot tempt again. From the point of view of the intellect/discrimination/dhee (Jupiter), it issomething that is non-existent anyway ("so what was the problem in the first place?"), like shapes made of smoke. From the point of view of initiative and energy within us (Mars), it is something that needs to be fought hard and fearlessly. From the point of view of the learning ability within us (Mercury), it is something that needs to be learnt and understood fully so that we can overcome it. From the point of view of enjoyment and happiness (Venus), it is something that needs to be accepted and enjoyed and not something to fear or avoid ("after all, all is Brahman. Then why stay away from enjoyments?"). And so on. But remember one important thing. Whichever approach is taken to overcoming duality, the end result is the same. One first masters the approach. It becomes part of one's common sense and thinking. One eventually overcomes duality. One becomes self-realized and becomes liberated. That end result is the same irrespective of the approach chosen. * * * Sun is the soul within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what makes one wade (tar=swim/wade/cross) the ocean of delusion and get to the source. If you master the knowledge that helps one view the world as an ocean that needs to be crossed to reach the supreme, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Taaraa personifies this knowledge. Moon is the mind within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is an understanding of attachments and desires, their impermanence and how to kill them. If you master the knowledge that kills all attachments and desires and gives perfect control on the mind, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Kaali personifies this knowledge. Mars is the energy and initiative within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives one fearlessness of anything in the universe. If you master the knowledge that makes you utterly fearless and you do not fear anything (including death or pain!) other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Bhairavi personifies this knowledge. Mercury is knowledge and learning ability within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives one learning of various topics. If you master the knowledge that give you mastery of all kinds of learning through logical and rational thinking, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Maatangi personifies this knowledge. In fact, some people associate Maatangi with Saraswati. Saraswati is also known as "Maatanga Kanya". Jupiter is the intellect, wisdom and discrimination (dhee shakti) within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is that all is delusion. The individual soul and individual mind and everything they perceive is just an illusion. All that is there is Brahman. Any other perceptions, of various good or bad things, are just a delusion, like figures made of smoke. If you master the knowledge that makes your intellect shine, you will realize that the entire world is a delusion and not deluded by anything anymore. Then other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Dhumaavati personifies this knowledge. Venus is the spirit of enjoyment and bliss. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what makes one egoless and blissful. If you master the knowledge that makes you utterly fearless and you do not fear anything, including death or pain, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Chhinnamasta personifies this knowledge. She is depicted as a deity holding her own severed head, standing near a naked couple in copulation and surrounded by associates who are drinking wine. One mastering this knowledge need not stay away from any pleasures, but one learns to see god even those pleasures. However, pleasure obtained with an ego ("*I* am enjoying this act or object") binds. The headless state symbolizes egolessness. If one has overcome I-ness, pleasures are not binding. One not thinking in terms of "*I* am enjoying" but having no sense of "I" can live life without running away from any pleasures or undertaking any austerities and yet become liberated. Saturn is the spirit of hard work within us. He also represents our weaknesses and sins. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what makes us realize our internal enemies and destroy them. If you master the knowledge that makes you overcome weaknesses such as laziness and internal enemies such as lust, anger, greed, jealosy etc, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Bagalamukhi personifies this knowledge. Most of her mantras ask to destroy enemies and so people foolishly think that she is the one who gives success in litigation and worship her for court cases. This is like going to a king to ask for two spoons of sugar for your milk. You go to the king for bigger things and a neighbor is enough for giving you two spoons of sugar. The enemies destroyed by Bagalamukhi are internal enemies and your own laziness. Remember, she is a mahavidya, i.e. a type of supreme knowledge that liberates you! Rahu is the spirit of material well-being within us. Rahu is the one who binds us to rebirth (this is why Saturn showing sins and Rahu showing rebirth are important in the death chart). The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives us worldly success in a dhaarmik way. If you master the knowledge that makes you materially successful in a dharmik way, you become successful and fulfil all your duties and debts in the world and eventually get liberation. Bhuvaneswari personifies this knowledge. Ketu is the spirit of of detachment and Vedic knowledge within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is the essense of Veda. If you master the knowledge that enables you to be in oneness with the supreme cosmic being, you eventually get liberation. Kamala (Mahaalakshmi) personifies this knowledge. According to saptashati rahasya also, Mahaalakshmi is the Aadyaa (the first One). She is the energy of supreme cosmic being. She divides Herself into 3 parts - Mahaakaali, Mahaalakshmi and MahaaSaraswati and they create Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and their consorts. Kamala represents the knowledge of the supreme cosmic energy of the supreme cosmic being. * * * One of the above is not superior to the other. Depending on your vasanas (mental conditioning), attitudes, likes and dislikes, depending on which aspect of your personality dominates over other aspects (the sinfulness and weaknesses? or the interest in learning things? or the spirit of fighting? or the sense of enjoyment? etc), one Mahavidya may be more suitable than others, as that knowledge uses your strong aspect and moulds that aspect to take you towards liberation. Do not compare them. Take the one that is most suitable, but do master that aspect. * * * There are some who do Dasa Mahavidya sadhana by doing one Mahavidya's mantra for one month, then switch to another and so on. They think that by doing each mahavidya mantra for a certain count, they "finish" the mahavidya sadhana. This is wrong and serves no useful purpose. Instead, one should pick any ONE mahavidya and succeed in that sadhana. The definition of success is that the knowledge represented by that deity becomes part of your common sense - you understand that knowledge and ooze that knowledge in your thoughts and actions. Whether you experience the deity as an external human-like form (who may impart some knowledge to you) or as an internal human-like form or as light or as sound is secondary, but the end result should be that the knowledge represented by Her should become common sense and second nature to you. One claiming visions or siddhi of a mahavidya but not showing the corresponding knowledge is bluffing. There are many people who do mahavidya sadhana and yet many others who claim to have siddhi in one or more mahavidyas, but very few who actually possess any of the ten mahavidyas. The area of mahavidya sadhana is one of the most ill-understood in today's age of ignorance and half-baked knowledge. It is easier to possess lower vidyas or lower shaktis, but mahavidyas are beyond the capability of understanding for most people. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - "naaraayana_iyer" <narayan.iyerFriday, June 05, 2009 9:58 AM Re: Rama as God > Namaste Narasimha,>> Here's what the Mundamala Tantra states (not in correct itrans format):>> kriShnaastu kaalika saakshaat raamamoortischa taariNii |> vaaraaho bhuvana prokta nrsimho bharavishvarii ||> dhoomavatii vamanaH syaat chinnaa bhrighukulodbhavaAH |> kamalaa matsyaroopaAH syaat koormastu bagalamukhii ||> maatangii baudh ityeSHa Shodashii kalkiroopinii ||>> Some of the reason for the mapping given is:>> Varaha as the boar that dug deep to uplift Mother Earth (Bhuvaneshvari)> Bhairavi is the burning tapas of that shoots forth and destroys all evil > but not to aspirants (like Narasimha deva being kind to Prahalada)> Parasurama cut the head of his mother Renuka (Chinnamasta)> Kamalatmika robed in the waters of consciousness is behind the Matsya the > primordial fish in the vivifying waters of creation.> Bagalamukhi is stifling force of Kurma avtara that lies still and > motionless withdrawing its limbs into itself.> Matangi is the Vaikhari Vak behind the avatara of Buddha who had come to > articulate the message of truth.>> Regards> Narayan>> , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr > wrote:>>>> Dear Narayan,>>>> Todala tantra also maps Vishnu's ten incarnations to Dasa maha vidyas.>> Krishna is associated with Kaali there too. However, Shiva teaches >> Parvati>> in Todala tantra that Maatangi is Rama. Can you give the full list of>> mapping as given in Munda maalaa tantra?>>>> Best regards,>> Narasimha>> >> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam>> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana>> Spirituality: >> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org>> >>>> - >> "naaraayana_iyer" <narayan.iyer>> >> Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:07 AM>> Re: Rama as God>>>>>> > Namaste Rajarshiji,>> >>> >> As a corollary, can the path shown by Lord Rama be equated to the path >> >> of>> >> Dakshina Kali and that of Krishna as Vama Kali.>> >>> > Actually, Krishna is equated to Kali, as per the Munda Mala Tantra.>> > Krishna's beeja akshara is Kleem while Kali's beeja akshara is Kreem.>> > Whereas, Rama is equated to Taaraa, the Raama Naama is called the >> > Taaraka>> > mantra. Taaraa means crossing and she is the one who helps us >> > cross-over>> > from the material plane to the spiritual plane. Raama also had to cross>> > the ocean to get Sita. Esoterically, Raama is the soul, Lakshmana is >> > the>> > single-pointed concentration (lakshya-mana) and Sita is the Kundalini>> > Shakti. Raavana who stands for our material desires steals Sita and >> > takes>> > her away to Lanka, stands for how our material desires makes the >> > kundalini>> > remain in the mooladhara. The beeja akshara of Mooladhaara is Lam, >> > which>> > is what Lanka is.>> >>> > Munda Maala tantra has other parallels (equating Das Mahaavidya & Das>> > Avataara) too, some of which makes sense and some of them dont.>> >>> > Hope this helps.>> >>> > Thanks>> > Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Swee, > If you do not mind, Munda literally means "demon"?????????? - so the list > you have given below is not for the purpose of internal yagna but for> causing pain to others, which I believe is opposite of what you are trying> to teach. Munda does not have such a meaning at all. It means a head, especially a shaved head. It also symbolizes ego. Munda maala is a garland of heads and symbolizes the endless cycle of birth, death and rebirth. * * * Dear Sarbani, Good to hear from you! Please convey my regards to Sanjay ji. > Sri Narayanchandra Jyotirbhushan Bhattacharya, in his epic tome, "Jyotish> Kalpa-Vriksha" has quoted from the tantra thus:> > <verse..see below>> > He does not mention the name of the tantra, though. Thank you for giving a classical reference to the SJC version of planet-Mahavidya mapping. Do you know when Sri Narayanchandra Jyotirbhushan Bhattacharya lived? If he does not name the tantra that he "has quoted from", that is not helpful. Munda Maala Tantra, on the other hand, is a respected Tantra text. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , "Sarbani Rath" <sarbani wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Narasimha,> > Sri Narayanchandra Jyotirbhushan Bhattacharya, in his epic tome, "Jyotish> Kalpa-Vriksha" has quoted from the tantra thus:> > Divaakarasya Matangi Chandrasya Bhuvaneshvari> Kujasya Bagalaadevi Budhasya Parasundari.> Tara Brihaspateshchaiva Shukrasya Kamaltmika> Shanestu Dakshinakaali Grahanaamishtadevtaa..> Chhinnamastaa Tathaa Raahoh Ketordhumavati Tathaa. > > He does not mention the name of the tantra, though. He has further proceeded> to construct a table called Sarbadukhaharachakramidam, where he has mapped> the planets with the Dashavatars and the Dasha Mahavidyas. It might be of> intereste to you.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Rath> > Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/> http://sarbani.com> > Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/>> http://sagittariuspublications.com> > Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com> > Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/> http://.org sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Narasimha,> > Namaste> > If you do not mind, Munda literally means "demon"?????????? - so the list> you have given below is not for the purpose of internal yagna but for> causing pain to others, which I believe is opposite of what you are trying> to teach.> > According to my Guru, Chhinnamasta is akin to Rahu, fierce and its vidya> quells the rebellious aspect of the enemy. Nothing to do with cleansing the> Indriya per se, but the prevailing external forces which we can map to our> horoscopes. Parasara of course teaches us that it is not one, but two or> more malefics that causes such pain.> > Baglamukhi is Mars, since she helps in lawsuits and contentious issues with> land. Both issues point to Mars as the karaka in learner jyotish. Whilst we> are at it, I am surprised you did not but her in the category of Venus, the> 2nd house lord of the natural horoscope and speech.since Bablamukhi is> number one for causing stambhan.> > You may enjoy reading the Narada Purana with its wonderful exposition on the> expansions of the shaktis and get a better idea on the same, since it is> evident that you have given a list off the cuff and off course.> > Thanks for reading.> > Love,> > Swee> > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> 06 June 2009 22:54> > Cc: vedic astrology ; ;> sohamsa > Planets and Dasa Mahavidyas> > Dear Narayan,> > Thanks for the verse from Munda Maalaa Tantra. Out of all planet-mahavidya> mappings I have seen, this is the most philosophically sound mapping.> > Sun - Taaraa - Raama> Moon - Kaali - Krishna> Mars - Bhairavi - Nrisimha> Mercury - Maatangi - Buddha> Jupiter - Dhumaavati - Vaamana> Venus - Chhinnamastaa - Bhaargava Rama> Saturn - Bagalamukhi - Koorma> Rahu - Bhuvaneswari - Varaaha> Ketu - Kamala - Matsya> > * * *> > Vidya is knowledge. Mahavidya is supreme knowledge. Dasa mahavidyas are the> ten highest forms of knowledge that take us to moksha or liberation,> approaching from different angles. Other kinds of knowledge (e.g.> mathematics, physics, astronomy, astrology, grammar etc) do not liberate us.> But these ten kinds of knowledge liberate us. The deities (names and forms> described in books for ten mahavidyas) are personifications of those ten> types of supreme knowledge that liberate us.> > * * *> > Please note one thing here. Moksha means overcoming the maayaa of the> duality around us. Seeing some things as desirable, some as undesirable,> some as pleasurable, some as painful, some as beautiful, some as ugly etc is> what binds us. Overcoming the duality and seeing all as Brahman is> liberation or moksha.> > Different planets represent different aspects of our selves. The duality> around us and the way to overcome it seem different from different angles.> From the point of view of individual soul (Sun), this maayaa is something> that needs to be overcome by crossing and reaching the other end (supreme> cosmic soul). From the point of view of mind (Moon), this duality is> something that clouds the vision and needs to be destroyed so that it cannot> tempt again. From the point of view of the intellect/discrimination/dhee> (Jupiter), it issomething that is non-existent anyway ("so what was the> problem in the first place?"), like shapes made of smoke. From the point of> view of initiative and energy within us (Mars), it is something that needs> to be fought hard and fearlessly. From the point of view of the learning> ability within us (Mercury), it is something that needs to be learnt and> understood fully so that we can overcome it. From the point of view of> enjoyment and happiness (Venus), it is something that needs to be accepted> and enjoyed and not something to fear or avoid ("after all, all is Brahman.> Then why stay away from enjoyments?"). And so on.> > But remember one important thing. Whichever approach is taken to overcoming> duality, the end result is the same. One first masters the approach. It> becomes part of one's common sense and thinking. One eventually overcomes> duality. One becomes self-realized and becomes liberated. That end result is> the same irrespective of the approach chosen.> > * * *> > Sun is the soul within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving> deep into this aspect is what makes one wade (tar=swim/wade/cross) the ocean> of delusion and get to the source. If you master the knowledge that helps> one view the world as an ocean that needs to be crossed to reach the> supreme, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Taaraa> personifies this knowledge.> > Moon is the mind within us. The highest form of knowledge coming from> delving deep into this aspect is an understanding of attachments and> desires, their impermanence and how to kill them. If you master the> knowledge that kills all attachments and desires and gives perfect control> on the mind, other things will follow and you eventually get liberation.> Kaali personifies this knowledge.> > Mars is the energy and initiative within us. The highest form of knowledge> coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives one fearlessness of> anything in the universe. If you master the knowledge that makes you utterly> fearless and you do not fear anything (including death or pain!) other> things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Bhairavi personifies> this knowledge.> > Mercury is knowledge and learning ability within us. The highest form of> knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives one> learning of various topics. If you master the knowledge that give you> mastery of all kinds of learning through logical and rational thinking,> other things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Maatangi> personifies this knowledge. In fact, some people associate Maatangi with> Saraswati. Saraswati is also known as "Maatanga Kanya".> > Jupiter is the intellect, wisdom and discrimination (dhee shakti) within us.> The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is> that all is delusion. The individual soul and individual mind and everything> they perceive is just an illusion. All that is there is Brahman. Any other> perceptions, of various good or bad things, are just a delusion, like> figures made of smoke. If you master the knowledge that makes your intellect> shine, you will realize that the entire world is a delusion and not deluded> by anything anymore. Then other things will follow and you eventually get> liberation. Dhumaavati personifies this knowledge.> > Venus is the spirit of enjoyment and bliss. The highest form of knowledge> coming from delving deep into this aspect is what makes one egoless and> blissful. If you master the knowledge that makes you utterly fearless and> you do not fear anything, including death or pain, other things will follow> and you eventually get liberation. Chhinnamasta personifies this knowledge.> She is depicted as a deity holding her own severed head, standing near a> naked couple in copulation and surrounded by associates who are drinking> wine. One mastering this knowledge need not stay away from any pleasures,> but one learns to see god even those pleasures. However, pleasure obtained> with an ego ("*I* am enjoying this act or object") binds. The headless state> symbolizes egolessness. If one has overcome I-ness, pleasures are not> binding. One not thinking in terms of "*I* am enjoying" but having no sense> of "I" can live life without running away from any pleasures or undertaking> any austerities and yet become liberated.> > Saturn is the spirit of hard work within us. He also represents our> weaknesses and sins. The highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep> into this aspect is what makes us realize our internal enemies and destroy> them. If you master the knowledge that makes you overcome weaknesses such as> laziness and internal enemies such as lust, anger, greed, jealosy etc, other> things will follow and you eventually get liberation. Bagalamukhi> personifies this knowledge. Most of her mantras ask to destroy enemies and> so people foolishly think that she is the one who gives success in> litigation and worship her for court cases. This is like going to a king to> ask for two spoons of sugar for your milk. You go to the king for bigger> things and a neighbor is enough for giving you two spoons of sugar. The> enemies destroyed by Bagalamukhi are internal enemies and your own laziness.> Remember, she is a mahavidya, i.e. a type of supreme knowledge that> liberates you!> > Rahu is the spirit of material well-being within us. Rahu is the one who> binds us to rebirth (this is why Saturn showing sins and Rahu showing> rebirth are important in the death chart). The highest form of knowledge> coming from delving deep into this aspect is what gives us worldly success> in a dhaarmik way. If you master the knowledge that makes you materially> successful in a dharmik way, you become successful and fulfil all your> duties and debts in the world and eventually get liberation. Bhuvaneswari> personifies this knowledge.> > Ketu is the spirit of of detachment and Vedic knowledge within us. The> highest form of knowledge coming from delving deep into this aspect is the> essense of Veda. If you master the knowledge that enables you to be in> oneness with the supreme cosmic being, you eventually get liberation. Kamala> (Mahaalakshmi) personifies this knowledge. According to saptashati rahasya> also, Mahaalakshmi is the Aadyaa (the first One). She is the energy of> supreme cosmic being. She divides Herself into 3 parts - Mahaakaali,> Mahaalakshmi and MahaaSaraswati and they create Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and> their consorts. Kamala represents the knowledge of the supreme cosmic energy> of the supreme cosmic being.> > * * *> > One of the above is not superior to the other. Depending on your vasanas> (mental conditioning), attitudes, likes and dislikes, depending on which> aspect of your personality dominates over other aspects (the sinfulness and> weaknesses? or the interest in learning things? or the spirit of fighting?> or the sense of enjoyment? etc), one Mahavidya may be more suitable than> others, as that knowledge uses your strong aspect and moulds that aspect to> take you towards liberation. Do not compare them. Take the one that is most> suitable, but do master that aspect.> > * * *> > There are some who do Dasa Mahavidya sadhana by doing one Mahavidya's mantra> for one month, then switch to another and so on. They think that by doing> each mahavidya mantra for a certain count, they "finish" the mahavidya> sadhana. This is wrong and serves no useful purpose. Instead, one should> pick any ONE mahavidya and succeed in that sadhana. The definition of> success is that the knowledge represented by that deity becomes part of your> common sense - you understand that knowledge and ooze that knowledge in your> thoughts and actions. Whether you experience the deity as an external> human-like form (who may impart some knowledge to you) or as an internal> human-like form or as light or as sound is secondary, but the end result> should be that the knowledge represented by Her should become common sense> and second nature to you. One claiming visions or siddhi of a mahavidya but> not showing the corresponding knowledge is bluffing.> > There are many people who do mahavidya sadhana and yet many others who claim> to have siddhi in one or more mahavidyas, but very few who actually possess> any of the ten mahavidyas. The area of mahavidya sadhana is one of the most> ill-understood in today's age of ignorance and half-baked knowledge. It is> easier to possess lower vidyas or lower shaktis, but mahavidyas are beyond> the capability of understanding for most people.> > Best regards,> Narasimha> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> Spirituality: <>> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > - > "naaraayana_iyer" < <narayan.iyer> narayan.iyer> < >> Friday, June 05, 2009 9:58 AM> Re: Rama as God> > > Namaste Narasimha,> >> > Here's what the Mundamala Tantra states (not in correct itrans format):> >> > kriShnaastu kaalika saakshaat raamamoortischa taariNii |> > vaaraaho bhuvana prokta nrsimho bharavishvarii ||> > dhoomavatii vamanaH syaat chinnaa bhrighukulodbhavaAH |> > kamalaa matsyaroopaAH syaat koormastu bagalamukhii ||> > maatangii baudh ityeSHa Shodashii kalkiroopinii ||> >> > Some of the reason for the mapping given is:> >> > Varaha as the boar that dug deep to uplift Mother Earth (Bhuvaneshvari)> > Bhairavi is the burning tapas of that shoots forth and destroys all evil > > but not to aspirants (like Narasimha deva being kind to Prahalada)> > Parasurama cut the head of his mother Renuka (Chinnamasta)> > Kamalatmika robed in the waters of consciousness is behind the Matsya the > > primordial fish in the vivifying waters of creation.> > Bagalamukhi is stifling force of Kurma avtara that lies still and > > motionless withdrawing its limbs into itself.> > Matangi is the Vaikhari Vak behind the avatara of Buddha who had come to > > articulate the message of truth.> >> > Regards> > Narayan> >> > > , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> > > wrote:> >>> >> Dear Narayan,> >>> >> Todala tantra also maps Vishnu's ten incarnations to Dasa maha vidyas.> >> Krishna is associated with Kaali there too. However, Shiva teaches > >> Parvati> >> in Todala tantra that Maatangi is Rama. Can you give the full list of> >> mapping as given in Munda maalaa tantra?> >>> >> Best regards,> >> Narasimha> >> > >> Do a Short Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> >> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> >> Spirituality: <>> > >> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> >> Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> >> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> http://www.SriJagannath.org> >> > >>> >> - > >> "naaraayana_iyer" <narayan.iyer@>> >> < >> >> Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:07 AM> >> Re: Rama as God> >>> >>> >> > Namaste Rajarshiji,> >> >> >> >> As a corollary, can the path shown by Lord Rama be equated to the path> > >> >> of> >> >> Dakshina Kali and that of Krishna as Vama Kali.> >> >> >> > Actually, Krishna is equated to Kali, as per the Munda Mala Tantra.> >> > Krishna's beeja akshara is Kleem while Kali's beeja akshara is Kreem.> >> > Whereas, Rama is equated to Taaraa, the Raama Naama is called the > >> > Taaraka> >> > mantra. Taaraa means crossing and she is the one who helps us > >> > cross-over> >> > from the material plane to the spiritual plane. Raama also had to cross> >> > the ocean to get Sita. Esoterically, Raama is the soul, Lakshmana is > >> > the> >> > single-pointed concentration (lakshya-mana) and Sita is the Kundalini> >> > Shakti. Raavana who stands for our material desires steals Sita and > >> > takes> >> > her away to Lanka, stands for how our material desires makes the > >> > kundalini> >> > remain in the mooladhara. The beeja akshara of Mooladhaara is Lam, > >> > which> >> > is what Lanka is.> >> >> >> > Munda Maala tantra has other parallels (equating Das Mahaavidya & Das> >> > Avataara) too, some of which makes sense and some of them dont.> >> >> >> > Hope this helps.> >> >> >> > Thanks> >> > Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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