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I dunno anything about the bleching etc. but I am a vaamaachaari.

 

 

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dear members,

I have a question to ask, although I had put forth this question

before, nobody seemed to answer my question. I hope people will be

willing to shed some light on it this time.

 

The question is what is the significance of Belching and flatulence

during saadhana? Does it happen because of a reason?what about

Hiccups, a long time ago I read that these symptoms have a karmic

connection and signify the different karmic situations a person has

been through in their life,is it true?

 

Also, in this group are there any devotees who follow the left hand

path of worship?

 

Thank you

C.

 

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Sree mathre namah

greatness to Mother.

 

Dear Chinnamasta, belching and hiccups are a common feature in sadhana and this

only sadhakas can explain. i differ from the theory about any karmic connection

to these situations. in sadhana, one faces the power of 10 airs or Vayus. the

major 5 and the minor 5 . The major 5 are Prana, Apana, Vyana, Samana, and

Udana. the other 5 are Naga, kurma, Krukara, Devadatta and Dhananjaya. to

explain these orally is beyond possibility as only one has to experience. Prana

is the air that we breathe in. Apana is the air which counteracts in the

opposite direction from stomach and below to anus, as a sort of creating vaccuum

for the Prana to enter the lungs. Vyana is present in Lower and central abdomen

and stomach nd helps in digesting the food. Samana is present all over the body

flowing through process of osmosis in blood and help in creating the functions

of external organs. Udana is situated from the place perpendicular to larynx (

my anatomy is poor but it is called Lambica

Vayu in sanskrit) and its movement is towards head and brain. these are the

major airs. now the minor airs are Naga, Kurma, Krukara, Devadatta which are

yawning, belching, flatulence and tingling sensation one finds in stomach when

he is hungry and other such somatic behaviours.

so much for anatomy. this entire theory is present in Shatchakra Nirupana and

other important books on Sadhana. When one sits in sadhana or starts meditating

on certain things, trying to wander away the concentration on what our mind sets

on to what our concsience sets on, the minor vayus will be in disequilibira and

take some time to find normalcy. be it sadhana or anything, concentrate on one

thing, one find, the insurgence of the minor vayus which takes some time to

settle and make our mind peaceful. they are only a passing phases in sadhana or

whatever one calls. the major part is to take control over the 5 major airs

which renders the sadhaka called VayuJaya which is of utmost importance.

this is my view point.

allways at the feet of my Guru,

Samvidaananda saktha.

 

 

 

 

 

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chhinamastika wrote:

>dear members,

>I have a question to ask, although I had put forth this question

>before, nobody seemed to answer my question. I hope people will be

>willing to shed some light on it this time.

>

>The question is what is the significance of Belching and flatulence

>during saadhana? Does it happen because of a reason?what about

>Hiccups, a long time ago I read that these symptoms have a karmic

>connection and signify the different karmic situations a person has

>been through in their life,is it true?

>

>Also, in this group are there any devotees who follow the left hand

>path of worship?

>

>Thank you

>C.

>

>

 

 

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shriadishakti , " spencercorliss "

<spencercorliss> wrote:

>

> when I meditate I often see alot of purple colors, as well as a

> blue tree once. The first couple times i saw a rainbow tunnel near

> the bottom of my vision so to speak. not sure what exactly this

> means, any insight would be helpful, I am somewhat new to this

>

> Spencer

 

Hi Spencer,

 

Welcome to the forum. Your post will be answered shortly together

with Jane's post:

 

Re: The 189th name of Shri Lalita is Durgama. Who is the Divine

Mother Durga?

shriadishakti/message/3077

 

However, back to Durga. It is only since looking at a certain

photograph of Sri Mataji this morning that I have " remembered "

another experience I used to have whilst in SY. When we watched the

videos I used to see her face become a kind of coloured " mask. " When

I mentioned this I was told that " No, this did not happen. " Well

perhaps I should have stuck up for myself a bit more, because Yes,

it did, actually, for me if no one else! Looking at the photo this

morning I see a distinct white triangle (pointing downwards) around

the binu dot, and more white going upwards above the triangle. I

also got a bit of something above the eye brows - not white, and not

clear from this photo. I do know a little about yanta and the shri

yants. I've also just looked up images of the godess Kali (whom I

think links with Durga)and she also had this white triangle on her

forehead, it also said (re Kali/Durga) that she is the " Divine

Mother " who frees us from illusions, from the " play. " I could never

get the idea about Kali in the past, I didn't like to look of her at

all! However, now I am beginning to " get the picture " !

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Hi Spencer and Jane,

 

i still do not know what to make out of these experiences. Others

have also written about their visions. It is really difficult to

explain or make much sense, not that they are harmful. Shri Mataji

has discouraged us from visualizing as they detract us from the

spiritual path.

 

jagbir

 

 

>

> shriadishakti , " spencercorliss "

> <spencercorliss> wrote:

> >

> > when I meditate I often see alot of purple colors, as well as a

> > blue tree once. The first couple times i saw a rainbow tunnel

near the bottom of my vision so to speak. not sure what exactly this

> > means, any insight would be helpful, I am somewhat new to this

> >

> > Spencer

>

> Hi Spencer,

>

> Welcome to the forum. Your post will be answered shortly together

> with Jane's post:

>

> Re: The 189th name of Shri Lalita is Durgama. Who is the Divine

> Mother Durga?

> shriadishakti/message/3077

>

> However, back to Durga. It is only since looking at a certain

> photograph of Sri Mataji this morning that I have " remembered "

> another experience I used to have whilst in SY. When we watched the

> videos I used to see her face become a kind of coloured " mask. "

When I mentioned this I was told that " No, this did not happen. " Well

> perhaps I should have stuck up for myself a bit more, because Yes,

> it did, actually, for me if no one else! Looking at the photo this

> morning I see a distinct white triangle (pointing downwards) around

> the binu dot, and more white going upwards above the triangle. I

> also got a bit of something above the eye brows - not white, and

not clear from this photo. I do know a little about yanta and the

shri yants. I've also just looked up images of the godess Kali (whom

I think links with Durga)and she also had this white triangle on her

> forehead, it also said (re Kali/Durga) that she is the " Divine

> Mother " who frees us from illusions, from the " play. " I could never

> get the idea about Kali in the past, I didn't like to look of her

at all! However, now I am beginning to " get the picture " !

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Hi Jagbir

 

Thanks for your response.

 

But it was these sort of experiences that gave me personal indisputable "evidence" (however anyone else might ridicule it) that there was something about this woman, something that made her and "Sahaj Yoga" quite, quite different from any other group I had joined in the past - and there had been quite a few! For example, one might meet someone who tells you that they are a "radiant being, glowing with divine light" and one may choose to "have faith" and although one couldn't see this "divine light" personally, one would go along with it. Or one could say "what a load of rubbish, I can't see any light" and walk off. But if one looked and saw for oneself the divine light - well, what then? Looking at Sri Mataji's picture again and seeing this "transformation" take place before my own eyes has reminded me that there is "something different" about Sahaj Yoga, for me at least!

 

-

 

jagbir singh

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[shriadishakti] Re: question

Hi Spencer and Jane,i still do not know what to make out of these experiences. Others have also written about their visions. It is really difficult to explain or make much sense, not that they are harmful. Shri Mataji has discouraged us from visualizing as they detract us from the spiritual path.jagbir> > shriadishakti , "spencercorliss" > <spencercorliss> wrote:> > > > when I meditate I often see alot of purple colors, as well as a > > blue tree once. The first couple times i saw a rainbow tunnel near the bottom of my vision so to speak. not sure what exactly this > > means, any insight would be helpful, I am somewhat new to this> > > > Spencer> > Hi Spencer,> > Welcome to the forum. Your post will be answered shortly together > with Jane's post:> > Re: The 189th name of Shri Lalita is Durgama. Who is the Divine > Mother Durga?> shriadishakti/message/3077> > However, back to Durga. It is only since looking at a certain> photograph of Sri Mataji this morning that I have "remembered"> another experience I used to have whilst in SY. When we watched the> videos I used to see her face become a kind of coloured "mask." When I mentioned this I was told that "No, this did not happen." Well> perhaps I should have stuck up for myself a bit more, because Yes,> it did, actually, for me if no one else! Looking at the photo this> morning I see a distinct white triangle (pointing downwards) around> the binu dot, and more white going upwards above the triangle. I> also got a bit of something above the eye brows - not white, and not clear from this photo. I do know a little about yanta and the shri yants. I've also just looked up images of the godess Kali (whom I think links with Durga)and she also had this white triangle on her> forehead, it also said (re Kali/Durga) that she is the "Divine> Mother" who frees us from illusions, from the "play." I could never> get the idea about Kali in the past, I didn't like to look of her at all! However, now I am beginning to "get the picture"!

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hi,

 

i just wanted to share my experience with all of you since even i had faced similar situation previously

 

it goes :

 

 

few years back, during meditation even i had seen colors and had asked similar question: what does it mean?

 

this is the answer i got " during meditation one should not seen anything. if one sees colors, shapes etc (i.e. anything) it simply means that our angya chakra is not clear and the Kundalini is unable to pierce through and reach Sahastrara. it gets kind of stuck and no matter how hard it tries it cant get through. So first we must clear our chakra, by various methods such as forgiving everyone, asking for forgiveness for our selves, applying kumkum which itself is very big protection....... but there r 2 method which i found very effective

 

1) hold lighted candle flame in our outstreched hand and try to see Shri Mataji's kumkum through the flame at first we may not be able to see but keep on praying to Mother please clear my angya and try to leave the clearance in the hands of divine. after sometime you will be able to see Shri Mataji's kumkum through the flame. The reason being all the blockages get burned in the flame and hence kumkum is visible.

 

2) Try to see the sun with naked eyes before 9:30 in morning because it gets harsher later. best time is to see around 7:00 - 8:00 when its not too harsh nor too mild. When our Angya chakra is blocked no matter how hard you try, you cant look at the sun for more than a min. becos you'll start feelin some pressure on Angya chakra causing eyelids to close (like when our eyelids start droopin due to sleep) but hold on, try to see the sun in brief intervals and slowly as long as you can see it ( do not force yourself because it may cause harm ) at same time pray the Sun God to clear Angya by saying please make our Angya chakra as enlighted like you so that we may see the truth in the light of the chakra. Please establish your divine qualities in our chakra (its called as 'teeja' in marathi you can take it as auspicious glow (lusterous quality)) you may find that your eyes start watering but this is due to clearance thats happening. after clearance you will be able to see a

golden-silver circular disc along the outer edges of the sun that keeps on changin its position and you will find that your head is much lighter than before.

 

if you cant see with both eyes cover one eye with hand take the clearance for one eye at a time.

and most important of all after takin clearance (for that matter of any type) dont forget to thank our Divine Mother, the God's, the Godess, the Angel's and the five elments for giving us the clearance and removing the negativity.

 

Hemangi Pitale

India

 

jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

Hi Spencer and Jane,i still do not know what to make out of these experiences. Others have also written about their visions. It is really difficult to explain or make much sense, not that they are harmful. Shri Mataji has discouraged us from visualizing as they detract us from the spiritual path.jagbir> > shriadishakti , "spencercorliss" > <spencercorliss> wrote:> > > > when I meditate I often see alot of purple colors, as well as a > > blue tree once. The first couple times i saw a rainbow tunnel near the bottom of my vision so to speak. not sure what exactly this > > means, any insight would be helpful, I am somewhat new to this> > > > Spencer> > Hi Spencer,> > Welcome to the forum.

Your post will be answered shortly together > with Jane's post:> > Re: The 189th name of Shri Lalita is Durgama. Who is the Divine > Mother Durga?> shriadishakti/message/3077> > However, back to Durga. It is only since looking at a certain> photograph of Sri Mataji this morning that I have "remembered"> another experience I used to have whilst in SY. When we watched the> videos I used to see her face become a kind of coloured "mask." When I mentioned this I was told that "No, this did not happen." Well> perhaps I should have stuck up for myself a bit more, because Yes,> it did, actually, for me if no one else! Looking at the photo this> morning I see a distinct white triangle (pointing downwards) around> the binu dot, and more white going upwards above the triangle. I> also

got a bit of something above the eye brows - not white, and not clear from this photo. I do know a little about yanta and the shri yants. I've also just looked up images of the godess Kali (whom I think links with Durga)and she also had this white triangle on her> forehead, it also said (re Kali/Durga) that she is the "Divine> Mother" who frees us from illusions, from the "play." I could never> get the idea about Kali in the past, I didn't like to look of her at all! However, now I am beginning to "get the picture"!

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> ji shiri mataji

> how can we can give the more energy to hreat

> to open four canal of energy in hreat

> if any one knows mail me

 

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people,

meditate, try to be thoughtless, give up rituals, don't worry about

such petty problems/knowledge, stop listening to half-baked people!

 

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Dear Dr. Rekhaa Kale,

 

I think that members can interact/discuss regarding deeper aspects of

Tantra or Tantra as a sadhana or spiritual path including genuine

research in Tantra, as you suggest.

 

May God bless all.

 

 

Shambhavi , " Dr. Rekhaa Kale "

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> Do we talk about genuine research in Tantra here?

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Dear Member,

 

Every Hindu must have an Altar at home.The priest who said thus must

be really ignorant.

 

Just that the vigrahas are to be angula pramana(finger size) if

proper abhiehska and archanas cannot be done.

 

If he has stated that no picture of God or Goddess should not exist

in one's home. He must be some islamic fundamentalist in the guise of

a priest!(Just kidding!hehe!). He really does not know what he is

talking.

 

Please ignore him.

 

Shreeram

 

 

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<gtbadman2001 wrote:

>

> Namaste all

>

> I would like to know if we as hindu are allowed to

> have a small temple(alter) at home with god and

> goddess like ganesha,hanuman,

> durga,laskmi,sarasawit,ganga,suruya,shiva,yanta's etc.

> The reason i am asking is because i went to a temple

> and the pandit told we are not allowed to have on in

> the home.

> He also state we should not have any picture of the

> gods in the home as well.

> Please advise

>

> thank you

> hari om

> rishi

>

>

>

>

>

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Namaste,

One can have an altar at home always.But it depends on the Aartee

that you would perform . If its daily rituals then it has a different

aspect and if it is like a Specific Poja like Hoomam etc, it has its

own Value and procedures, we should not make it Ashudham by wrong

procedures. So i think if you are aware of the step by step way to

conduct your pooja to best benefit, then I suggest that first one

should learn and then take action as we do not want to do anything

wrong to a practise that has been done since before our time.

The main thing is tht it is not wrong to have our own Altar at home.I

like to remind one that how ever one is disabled in life AMMA is

always there, one do not need idol or even Bhagwat Geetha just call

out loud to AMMA from you heart Amma will be there.( When one lights

an Agarbhathi at home, our neighbor gets the Aroma more than us at

home.)Same way when we call AMMA from home out loud no one hears but

if from your heart all will hear.

 

Pranam,

Babitha

 

 

, rishi kesh

<gtbadman2001 wrote:

>

> Namaste,

> Hi all

> I was wondering, if we are allowed to have a small

> temple at home... like murti's of

> ganesha,durga,hanuman etc. The reason i am asking is

> because i went to a temple this past weekend and the

> pandit told everyone they should not have a

> temple(alter) at home because we can not perform all

> that is needed.

> Please advice

> thank you

> hari om

>

>

>

>

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Hi All,

 

 

I am not in a level to comment on this subject. But what I heard,and learned from different sources , i would like to put it down here for the good of everyone.

 

Keeping an Idol at home is not advisable for normal people like us. There are two kind of people who worship God. One for realising the God,and knowing the truth, who want to follow the path of Ultimate wisdom. Nothing will ever affect them. It does not matter for them, what ever happens around them.

 

The other kind of people is the people who go to temple, do poojas , people like most of us, who believe in the separation of God and us. So, as long as we are in this Samsara or the world bound by karamas the rules of the world, which is created by the God, applies to us also.

 

 

The idols or temples are created with such a chanting of mantras and positioned in such a way to attract more power or energy towards it and gives it out for the Good of people. So if we do not do the right things or follow the correct procedures, it can back fire on our own life.

 

 

The energy has to be carefully utlised for the Good. for that purpose, those places should be kept clean, and should be having good surroundings and also the people should have good thoughts when near them.

 

if we can maintain such a great situation at home, and also provide him, with all the necessities as in a temple, he (i mean the God residing in the idol) will be happy with us. But it is a home,and there are chances of things going wrong, or people who are not in our control, can do things wrong, which can affect badly for all the members of the house.

 

 

there is a good side ,that you will be blessed with good energy and lot of good things...if it is maintained the people in the family has to maintain down the generations,because of the person who kept the idol at home.

 

 

you all may have heard about the family temples and thekkath etc. These are places of energy created to bring good to the family. God who will be with every person of the family. but if they forget that ,and go in the wrong direction, things will go bad for them.

 

 

Before doing something, it is better to understand it fully, short term and long term also.

 

Do everything as a service to God. Keep him with us everytime.

 

these are just my thoughts. If i said something wrong, please correct me.

 

Hari Ohm.

Kiran

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uttara gita [the final teachings of krishna to arjuna] sums up the

aspect of " god " very well:

 

agnir madhye dwijaanaam [in the fire to the twice born]

muneenaam hridhi samsthithaam [ in the heart of those who does tapas ]

pratima swalpa buddhinaam [ in the idol to the ignorant]

sarvatra sama darshinaam [ every where to the enlightened ]

 

This has also been translated thus:

 

" Agni or Fire is the god of the twice-born who are given to sacrifice;

the Munis call the Atman within them their god, the less intelligent

worship the idols, but the Yogis see Brahman equally everywhere - both

in the fire, within themselves, in idols, and all around. "

 

regds....devadas

 

Quoting Kiranlal Nair <kiranlal:

 

> Hi All,

>

>

> I am not in a level to comment on this subject. But what I heard,and learned

> from different sources , i would like to put it down here for the good of

> everyone.

>

> Keeping an Idol at home is not advisable for normal people like us. There

> are two kind of people who worship God. One for realising the God,and

> knowing the truth, who want to follow the path of Ultimate wisdom. Nothing

> will ever affect them. It does not matter for them, what ever happens around

> them.

>

> The other kind of people is the people who go to temple, do poojas , people

> like most of us, who believe in the separation of God and us. So, as long as

> we are in this Samsara or the world bound by karamas the rules of the

> world, which is created by the God, applies to us also.

>

> The idols or temples are created with such a chanting of mantras and

> positioned in such a way to attract more power or energy towards it and

> gives it out for the Good of people. So if we do not do the right things or

> follow the correct procedures, it can back fire on our own life.

>

> The energy has to be carefully utlised for the Good. for that purpose, those

> places should be kept clean, and should be having good surroundings and also

> the people should have good thoughts when near them.

>

> if we can maintain such a great situation at home, and also provide him,

> with all the necessities as in a temple, he (i mean the God residing in the

> idol) will be happy with us. But it is a home,and there are chances of

> things going wrong, or people who are not in our control, can do things

> wrong, which can affect badly for all the members of the house.

>

> there is a good side ,that you will be blessed with good energy and lot of

> good things...if it is maintained the people in the family has to maintain

> down the generations,because of the person who kept the idol at home.

>

> you all may have heard about the family temples and thekkath etc. These are

> places of energy created to bring good to the family. God who will be with

> every person of the family. but if they forget that ,and go in the wrong

> direction, things will go bad for them.

>

> Before doing something, it is better to understand it fully, short term and

> long term also.

>

> Do everything as a service to God. Keep him with us everytime.

>

> these are just my thoughts. If i said something wrong, please correct me.

>

> Hari Ohm.

> Kiran

>

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Dear Devotees of Amba,

 

First of all, I wish everyone a very Happy Navratri! May the Divine Grace of

Jagadamba be upon us all.

Now, I have a question that has been in my mind for some time and am hoping

that someone can help me with. I regularly attend a Devi temple where every

Navratri there is a most magnificient Chandi Yagna and divine chantings. I have

noticed many times over the years that during these prayers, some women begin to

shake vigorously or let there hair loose and swing their head or stomp their

feet, or do such things. I am curious to know what is happening here and why

this happens. I noticed that this only happens during Devi prayers. Does

anyone know what I am talking about?

 

Jai Mata Di,

Raj

 

 

 

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Such happennings are sentimental and emotional in nature and they have no

relationship to reality.

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: rakthpushp: Mon, 7 Apr 2008

03:34:37 -0400 question

 

 

 

 

Dear Devotees of Amba,First of all, I wish everyone a very Happy Navratri! May

the Divine Grace of Jagadamba be upon us all.Now, I have a question that has

been in my mind for some time and am hoping that someone can help me with. I

regularly attend a Devi temple where every Navratri there is a most magnificient

Chandi Yagna and divine chantings. I have noticed many times over the years that

during these prayers, some women begin to shake vigorously or let there hair

loose and swing their head or stomp their feet, or do such things. I am curious

to know what is happening here and why this happens. I noticed that this only

happens during Devi prayers. Does anyone know what I am talking about?Jai Mata

Di,RajBe smarter than spam. See how smart

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