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Linga haven't nothing with phallic symbol - third part, short about

Three Lingas

 

 

Three main Lingas we have.

 

1.

 

First is material form which usually call Linga. Shiva, Kriya, and Ishta

is older names for this outside or material form. We have and few parts

of one very holy Linga in Kaaba which have and next two deeper forms)!

Today have many cults which haven't real knowledge about inner form and

way for enter in process bhakti, jnana, dhyana - and have only parts of

this knowledge because usually make only puja.

Inside each regular Kriya/Ishta linga is Shiva linga.

Kriya/Ishta Linga present form of awaking conciousness which is feeling

conciousness (bhakti, pure love, first devotional state, dominant kriya

shakti - any action God is love) and have and deeper level conciousness

inside as willing conciousness (dominant icha shakti, love have exact

real direction, or life, quality, quantity, intention,..).

 

 

2.

Next and inner form of linga is Pranalinga.

This is Linga from inner light. Saints from old time teach people about

form Linga because this great souls see " Divine soul in Linga " . Divine

Soul has divine aura which is exact form linga. Position of Soul which

old saint see (in aura) is form Shiva Linga.

Now we have two forms in one. Outside is like sharp ball on the water

(sphere which haven't part in down), and inside is form body in position

watching Linga on the left palm.

Shivalinga is symbolic form: part sphere form is only symbolic form of

head (haven't nothing with phallus), middle form of Shivalinga is

symbolic form of left palm and higher part of body from heart/navel to

neck (haven't nothing with vulva) and on palm is subtle/invisible Linga,

lower part of Shivalinga is symbolic form of lower part of body from

navel to legs.

Pranalinga present form of sleeping conciousness which is cognition

conciousness (third devotional or bhakti state, where is dominant jnana

shakti - any direct knowing is God love) and have and deeper level

conciousness inside as intuition conciousness. This is point reflection

conciousness on the lower states or enter in higher form (execution)

conciousness which is only base reflection of intuition conciousness.

 

 

3.

 

Deepest form Linga is Mahalinga.

This is very high dynamic form, with very high speed rotations and

quietness (of extremely higher forms inner lights and inner sounds which

is incorporate simultaneously), and all this is complete beyond mind.

Very difficult find any reasonable words for intellect. Much deepest and

complexes forms than in illusion when we look car which go in one

direction, but all time wheels go on opposite direction. Here all forms

have source or there is real place for resolve all illusions and then

direct see God (or enter in complete conciousness). This extreme

rotations have outside form Linga (sphere without lower part).

There where all (para, chit, ananda, jnana, icha and kriya) shaktis

deepest with Shiva, became completed in One Conciousness or enter in

reflection as lower conciousness.

This conciousness can abide as one conciousness on lower level as

Pranalinga or as conciousness which reflected as thought in mind and

intellect (or became omitted, or limited conciousness) which present as

all outside forms of pranalinga.

Mahalinga present form of deep sleeping conciousness which is execution

conciousness (fifth devotional or bhakti state) and have and deeper

level conciousness inside as union conciousness (sixth devotional or

bhakti state) when haven't separation in conciousness.

 

Because each of this three Lingas have two Lingas, exactly we have 6

Lingas*** or 6 levels conciousness or conciousness and five reflections.

Now is open: not any creation all is only reflection, all is one

conciousness, or all is One!

Real teachings is only part of this! This is and real meaning in

doctrines hexagram, pentagram, and six days creation,..

 

 

Next facts

 

Shape of outside Linga is like shape inside Lingas which is from lights.

This Linga's shape is open only through inner experiences.

When real saint call God, or better say make proper invocation to

sanctify shape Linga (which made in one stone), and when properly make

sanctify one small part of conciousness enter in stone, and stone became

sacred. Of course and today many try make Linga, but result is very

different from this what will be necessary.

<Snipped>

Original colour Linga is white in Gold / Krita Yuga, but today is black

because in last period is Kali Yuga!

This black colour is originate and with colour pigment in pineal gland,

which exact deep indigo colour (very close black).

 

Today we have many religion variations and teachings, and very probably

lose many crucial points. Direct prayer to God (five prayers per day

teach us God through Islam) is very simple form, but today people have

many rules and variations. This is bad, through this rules nobody can't

enter deeper then level which produce this rules! This is not God. When

we accept deepest form which higher then any intellectual efforts, and

we for this have all time direct highest God's form or Linga! This way

is only intuitional way or through open heart (consciously way).

 

Form developed pineal gland is form Linga, now pineal gland is in

rudiment state, through psychic development pineal gland became active

and in bigger form like small linga (sweet cherry size).

Old syntagmas Philosophy Stone, Elixir Immortality is linga of course:

linga outside, pineal gland inside body, or better say linga on all and

deeper levels!

 

One span in front (where finish magnetic's part of aura) of forehead is

lens pineal gland, for helping in develop this lens we must put in same

place linga which must be full initiate for this praxis.

 

Pineal gland have and cells very like one type cells in eyes, or better

say we can through pineal gland see one part of vibration. This is sixth

sense or Intuition Eye, Third Eye (have many names in traditions).

 

 

Dear seeker truth, thanks for reading and asking, we continue.. I hope,

after this few words you can find better meaning of Linga (or sacred

stones with this shape).

 

 

***

 

 

Six Bhaktis through:

 

Six Lingas---------------Six Angas-------------- Six Bhaktis

 

Acaralinga ------------- Bhakta ---------------- Srddhabhakti

Gurulinga -------------- Mahesa --------------- Nisthabhakti

Sivalinga --------------- Prasadi --------------- Avadhanabhakti

Jangamalinga --------- Pranalingi ------------ Anubhavabhakti

Prasadalinga ---------- Sharana -------------- Anandabhakti

Mahalinga -------------- Aikya ----------------- Samarasabhakti

 

This is part of old teaching which we today call Shivayoga as perfect

Bhakti Yoga - Integral Bhakti Yoga - Integral Yoga.

 

Bhakti is as Divine Key! Bhakti is first and last! Bhakti is all!

 

Only Bhakti is enough.

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Warm Regards

Mahapratibhawan

 

 

 

PS

 

Two links for read first two articles

 

http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic.h\

tml

<http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic.\

html>

 

http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic_1\

4.html

<http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic_\

14.html> :

 

 

 

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Dear branko,

 

Excellent article on Linga. I too have the same perception.

 

But be prepared to receive the counter mails from certain sections of forum.

May ambaal give you the courage to withstand!!

 

Dogs bark but the caravaan goes on

 

With regards,

sriram

 

Branko Ivatovic <mahapratibhawan wrote:

[Moderator Note: Some Islamic references were edited.]

 

Linga haven't nothing with phallic symbol - third part, short about

Three Lingas

 

Three main Lingas we have.

 

1.

 

First is material form which usually call Linga. Shiva, Kriya, and Ishta

is older names for this outside or material form. We have and few parts

of one very holy Linga in Kaaba which have and next two deeper forms)!

Today have many cults which haven't real knowledge about inner form and

way for enter in process bhakti, jnana, dhyana - and have only parts of

this knowledge because usually make only puja.

Inside each regular Kriya/Ishta linga is Shiva linga.

Kriya/Ishta Linga present form of awaking conciousness which is feeling

conciousness (bhakti, pure love, first devotional state, dominant kriya

shakti - any action God is love) and have and deeper level conciousness

inside as willing conciousness (dominant icha shakti, love have exact

real direction, or life, quality, quantity, intention,..).

 

2.

Next and inner form of linga is Pranalinga.

This is Linga from inner light. Saints from old time teach people about

form Linga because this great souls see " Divine soul in Linga " . Divine

Soul has divine aura which is exact form linga. Position of Soul which

old saint see (in aura) is form Shiva Linga.

Now we have two forms in one. Outside is like sharp ball on the water

(sphere which haven't part in down), and inside is form body in position

watching Linga on the left palm.

Shivalinga is symbolic form: part sphere form is only symbolic form of

head (haven't nothing with phallus), middle form of Shivalinga is

symbolic form of left palm and higher part of body from heart/navel to

neck (haven't nothing with vulva) and on palm is subtle/invisible Linga,

lower part of Shivalinga is symbolic form of lower part of body from

navel to legs.

Pranalinga present form of sleeping conciousness which is cognition

conciousness (third devotional or bhakti state, where is dominant jnana

shakti - any direct knowing is God love) and have and deeper level

conciousness inside as intuition conciousness. This is point reflection

conciousness on the lower states or enter in higher form (execution)

conciousness which is only base reflection of intuition conciousness.

 

3.

 

Deepest form Linga is Mahalinga.

This is very high dynamic form, with very high speed rotations and

quietness (of extremely higher forms inner lights and inner sounds which

is incorporate simultaneously), and all this is complete beyond mind.

Very difficult find any reasonable words for intellect. Much deepest and

complexes forms than in illusion when we look car which go in one

direction, but all time wheels go on opposite direction. Here all forms

have source or there is real place for resolve all illusions and then

direct see God (or enter in complete conciousness). This extreme

rotations have outside form Linga (sphere without lower part).

There where all (para, chit, ananda, jnana, icha and kriya) shaktis

deepest with Shiva, became completed in One Conciousness or enter in

reflection as lower conciousness.

This conciousness can abide as one conciousness on lower level as

Pranalinga or as conciousness which reflected as thought in mind and

intellect (or became omitted, or limited conciousness) which present as

all outside forms of pranalinga.

Mahalinga present form of deep sleeping conciousness which is execution

conciousness (fifth devotional or bhakti state) and have and deeper

level conciousness inside as union conciousness (sixth devotional or

bhakti state) when haven't separation in conciousness.

 

Because each of this three Lingas have two Lingas, exactly we have 6

Lingas*** or 6 levels conciousness or conciousness and five reflections.

Now is open: not any creation all is only reflection, all is one

conciousness, or all is One!

Real teachings is only part of this! This is and real meaning in

doctrines hexagram, pentagram, and six days creation,..

 

Next facts

 

Shape of outside Linga is like shape inside Lingas which is from lights.

This Linga's shape is open only through inner experiences.

When real saint call God, or better say make proper invocation to

sanctify shape Linga (which made in one stone), and when properly make

sanctify one small part of conciousness enter in stone, and stone became

sacred. Of course and today many try make Linga, but result is very

different from this what will be necessary.

<Snipped>

Original colour Linga is white in Gold / Krita Yuga, but today is black

because in last period is Kali Yuga!

This black colour is originate and with colour pigment in pineal gland,

which exact deep indigo colour (very close black).

 

Today we have many religion variations and teachings, and very probably

lose many crucial points. Direct prayer to God (five prayers per day

teach us God through Islam) is very simple form, but today people have

many rules and variations. This is bad, through this rules nobody can't

enter deeper then level which produce this rules! This is not God. When

we accept deepest form which higher then any intellectual efforts, and

we for this have all time direct highest God's form or Linga! This way

is only intuitional way or through open heart (consciously way).

 

Form developed pineal gland is form Linga, now pineal gland is in

rudiment state, through psychic development pineal gland became active

and in bigger form like small linga (sweet cherry size).

Old syntagmas Philosophy Stone, Elixir Immortality is linga of course:

linga outside, pineal gland inside body, or better say linga on all and

deeper levels!

 

One span in front (where finish magnetic's part of aura) of forehead is

lens pineal gland, for helping in develop this lens we must put in same

place linga which must be full initiate for this praxis.

 

Pineal gland have and cells very like one type cells in eyes, or better

say we can through pineal gland see one part of vibration. This is sixth

sense or Intuition Eye, Third Eye (have many names in traditions).

 

Dear seeker truth, thanks for reading and asking, we continue.. I hope,

after this few words you can find better meaning of Linga (or sacred

stones with this shape).

 

***

 

Six Bhaktis through:

 

Six Lingas---------------Six Angas-------------- Six Bhaktis

 

Acaralinga ------------- Bhakta ---------------- Srddhabhakti

Gurulinga -------------- Mahesa --------------- Nisthabhakti

Sivalinga --------------- Prasadi --------------- Avadhanabhakti

Jangamalinga --------- Pranalingi ------------ Anubhavabhakti

Prasadalinga ---------- Sharana -------------- Anandabhakti

Mahalinga -------------- Aikya ----------------- Samarasabhakti

 

This is part of old teaching which we today call Shivayoga as perfect

Bhakti Yoga - Integral Bhakti Yoga - Integral Yoga.

 

Bhakti is as Divine Key! Bhakti is first and last! Bhakti is all!

 

Only Bhakti is enough.

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Warm Regards

Mahapratibhawan

 

PS

 

Two links for read first two articles

 

http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic.h\

tml

<http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic.\

html>

 

http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic_1\

4.html

<http://shivayog.blogspot.com/2008/05/linga-havent-nothing-with-phallic_\

14.html> :

 

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Dear Branko,

 

> Today we have many religion variations and teachings, and very

probably

> lose many crucial points. Direct prayer to God (five prayers per day

> teach us God through Islam) is very simple form, but today people have

> many rules and variations. This is bad, through this rules nobody

can't

> enter deeper then level which produce this rules! This is not God.

 

Sorry that I missed this while editing. Please do not make posts with

sentences like above in future. Comparing and bringing in Islam is most

absurd. Kindly dont make comparisons like this in future.

In North India shaivism suffered so much due to Islamic invasions and

to draw parllels between when they theologically go in opposite

directions is most unfortunate. This is usually done only when there is

no proper understanding of both of these.

 

We do not have any problems with teh rest of this posting.

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> > Today we have many religion variations and teachings, and very

> probably

> > lose many crucial points. Direct prayer to God (five prayers per day

> > teach us God through Islam) is very simple form, but today people

have

> > many rules and variations. This is bad, through this rules nobody

> can't

> > enter deeper then level which produce this rules! This is not God.

 

In Hindu/Indic traditions above view doesnt exist. One might find

such view only in one or two minor sects which took shape during

medieval times. Following rules etc in the form of yama niyama etc

forms the basis of sadhana in the Hindu world. Preaching this to Hindu-

s is like trying to convert them. So above statments are out of place

and fundamentally wrong.

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It was Descartes who started declaring Pineal gland as

the seat of the soul. By the word soul, what is meant

in occidental theosophy is not the same as Atman or

even Jivatman in Hindu philosophy. All the

interpretations that take soul in occidental sense is

par below what is meant by Atman or Jiva. Hence, when

one associates pineal gland with " soul " , one has to

be careful what they are using as the metaphor.

Descartes equated mind with soul.Thus a soul, in his

view, is NOT immortal; not part or equal or product of

God, which does not exist much according to him...

Pineal gland is supposed to be material instrument for

mind to control the biological body. Complicated?

 

What is wrong in associating pineal gland or some

other part of the brain with soul in yoga sastras?

 

As convenient, the european bounty-hunters, when they

came to know about Agna in yoga shastra, immediately

spun a hypothesis around the pineal gland, third eye,

Agna etc.Many explanations by even adepts of yoga who

wanted to reach out to western educated listeners

started using this framework one way or the other. By

sheer word association, the meaning of the adepts'

discourses like Sri Shivananda was extrapolated to the

entire framework of pineal gland-soul-Agna. This

became a short-circuited-validation.

 

To constrict yogic siddhis to an organ of the

perishable body is like selling gold as iron nuggets.

Brain as a whole is the crudest and grossest

instrument - karana for Consciousness. Attributing

Divine functions and purposes to the instruments with

which Naure - that our body is part of - is a sign of

self-delusion and twisted logic that have haunted

Hindu Shastra sagara for the past 500 years.

 

As that was done to Rig Vedic translations, why should

the processes of yogic sadhana be tortured around

pineal gland etc.? Just because we want to make

europeans/westerners/western educated convinced? Just

because yogic shastras are so inferior (as we feel)

without these " intellectual gymnastics " ? is this the

only way the western educated 21st century

yoga-grazers could be " recruited " in to the glory of

the science of Yoga?

 

Even scientifically, the role of pineal gland is not

well understood. Whehtehr it plays a role in the yogic

sadhana's manifestation in the body and mind is not

the point here. That it does is not proved either by

yoga or by science. It need not be proved by Yoga, it

is the prerogative of " scientific minds " to prove it.

 

 

People who believe in teh Absolute, the Mother, the

Divne Couple, or any form of God need not twist our

meager intelligence to fit all the statements and

experiences of yogic or any sadhana to incomplete and

outdated " scientific " schools of thought.

 

 

 

 

 

> Form developed pineal gland is form Linga, now

> pineal gland is in

> rudiment state, through psychic development pineal

> gland became active

> and in bigger form like small linga (sweet cherry

> size).

> Old syntagmas Philosophy Stone, Elixir Immortality

> is linga of course:

> linga outside, pineal gland inside body, or better

> say linga on all and

> deeper levels!

>

> One span in front (where finish magnetic's part of

> aura) of forehead is

> lens pineal gland, for helping in develop this lens

> we must put in same

> place linga which must be full initiate for this

> praxis.

>

> Pineal gland have and cells very like one type cells

> in eyes, or better

> say we can through pineal gland see one part of

> vibration. This is sixth

> sense or Intuition Eye, Third Eye (have many names

> in traditions).

>

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, Gopal G <gopal_gopinath wrote:

> It was Descartes who started declaring Pineal gland as

> the seat of the soul.

 

This idea was derived from a Hindu tradition because it contains the

oldest mention of such. Please see Taittiriya Upanishad Prashna 1

section 6

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