Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Dear gopi, There are 3 prastharas of sriyantra. They are 1) Bhu-prastara 2)Kailasa-prastara 3) Meru prastara. Bhu-prastara is comprehened taking into consideration the oneness of sAmyA bhavana of ashta vAk dEvIs (8 vak devatas). Kailasa prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 51 matrika varna mala. At the bindu sthana of this Kailasa Prastara is the Parasiva in the form of Nishkala swarupa. This kailasa prastara is also called Mahakailasa. In pindanda, it is the bindu sthana of sahasrara padma. Meru prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 16 nitya kala devatas. Shubha agama panchaka and jnanarnava tantra elucidates these prastara bhedas in detail. Even the so-called bhu-prastara yantra which we see as 2-dimensional, the basement of the yantra should not touch the ground and hence it is placed on the back of srikurma. Now,the concept of 3-dimensional sriyantra is based on the 16 tithi nitya devatasa and 51 matrika vyavastha. The tantra shastra designed the 3-dimensional sriyantra in such a way that it encompasses the these concepts of nitya kalas and matrika varna mala. This is the privilege only given to sriyantra. The concept of panchadasi and its yantra bhavana is evolved from Navarna Mahameru which is given in Jnanarnava tantra. The bhavana of rest of the yantras and devatas are just a part of this sriyantra. Moreover the concept of tithi nityas and entire matrikas are to be found only in srividya and does not belong to any mantra or devata. Even, it is impossible to comprehend other yantras in 3-dimensional way. For further clarification, please go through the Bhaskararaya's LS nama commentary on 3 names: 1) Matrikavarnarupini 2) Mahakailasa Nilaya 3) Meru Rupa. with regards, sriram Gopi <antarurjas wrote: Dear all In my little understanding, the meru prasthaaram is a 3 dimensional form of a srI chakram. Are there such 3 dimensional forms for other yanthraas too? I remember seeing yanthras of other Gods and Goddesses only in a 2 dimensional form. If there are none, then what is the special greatness of the kAmeshwara-kAmeshwarI roopa that only they have the meru? Kindly clarify. praNAms. Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I have finalised the meru prastaram for all the 10 maha vidhyas and I am likely to bring them out early next year when I return to India. I am already doing Maha Meru in the concept of 96 energies as they are applicable to the human body, to the temple, to the moolavar idol and to the meru. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN : antarurjas: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:54:10 -0700 Meru prasthaaram Dear all In my little understanding, the meru prasthaaram is a 3 dimensional form of a srI chakram. Are there such 3 dimensional forms for other yanthraas too? I remember seeing yanthras of other Gods and Goddesses only in a 2 dimensional form. If there are none, then what is the special greatness of the kAmeshwara-kAmeshwarI roopa that only they have the meru? Kindly clarify. praNAms.Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Dear sir, It is nice to note that you have completed meru prastaram for all the 10 maha vidhyas. In deed I would like to have the dasa maha vidhya If you could able to forward the same to me I will be greatful to you. my mail id is kn_vasan2005 A word of reply is requested. N.SRINIVASAN --- On Sat, 11/10/08, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote: S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai RE: Meru prasthaaram Saturday, 11 October, 2008, 7:31 AM I have finalised the meru prastaram for all the 10 maha vidhyas and I am likely to bring them out early next year when I return to India. I am already doing Maha Meru in the concept of 96 energies as they are applicable to the human body, to the temple, to the moolavar idol and to the meru. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Dear Divine Brother, Any yantra as per mantra mahodathi, mantranavam or other texts, can be done in Meru form to determine that devatha. I have the expertise and even for Tithi Nithya the Meru Prastaram for each of them can be done. The concept comes out of the yantra for each devatha and the secret for the measurements of each stage comes from the guru parampara. Regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN : sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:42:59 +0100Re: Meru prasthaaram Dear gopi,There are 3 prastharas of sriyantra. They are 1) Bhu-prastara 2)Kailasa-prastara 3) Meru prastara.Bhu-prastara is comprehened taking into consideration the oneness of sAmyA bhavana of ashta vAk dEvIs (8 vak devatas). Kailasa prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 51 matrika varna mala. At the bindu sthana of this Kailasa Prastara is the Parasiva in the form of Nishkala swarupa. This kailasa prastara is also called Mahakailasa. In pindanda, it is the bindu sthana of sahasrara padma. Meru prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 16 nitya kala devatas. Shubha agama panchaka and jnanarnava tantra elucidates these prastara bhedas in detail. Even the so-called bhu-prastara yantra which we see as 2-dimensional, the basement of the yantra should not touch the ground and hence it is placed on the back of srikurma. Now,the concept of 3-dimensional sriyantra is based on the 16 tithi nitya devatasa and 51 matrika vyavastha. The tantra shastra designed the 3-dimensional sriyantra in such a way that it encompasses the these concepts of nitya kalas and matrika varna mala. This is the privilege only given to sriyantra. The concept of panchadasi and its yantra bhavana is evolved from Navarna Mahameru which is given in Jnanarnava tantra. The bhavana of rest of the yantras and devatas are just a part of this sriyantra. Moreover the concept of tithi nityas and entire matrikas are to be found only in srividya and does not belong to any mantra or devata. Even, it is impossible to comprehend other yantras in 3-dimensional way. For further clarification, please go through the Bhaskararaya's LS nama commentary on 3 names: 1) Matrikavarnarupini 2) Mahakailasa Nilaya 3) Meru Rupa.with regards,sriramGopi <antarurjas wrote:Dear allIn my little understanding, the meru prasthaaram is a 3 dimensional form of a srI chakram.Are there such 3 dimensional forms for other yanthraas too? I remember seeing yanthras of other Gods and Goddesses only in a 2 dimensional form. If there are none, then what is the special greatness of the kAmeshwara-kAmeshwarI roopa that only they have the meru?Kindly clarify.praNAms.Gopi[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video & form=MICOAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Dear sir, The fact that only Sriyantra has 3 prastharas and because of the speciality of the Meru Prasthara which is only to tripurasundari, it is called Yantra Raja. No other deity is having 3 dimensional form in meru swarupa. Nowhere in Mantramahodadhi and mantrarnava (AFAIK) is mentioned the 3- D form of yantra to other deities. Even the Sahasramantrasarasangraha does not mention this. However, this construction of meru prastara to other deities is a recent cult which has NO SASTRA PRAMANA. Ten years back, in Hyderabad, a temple dedicated to Mahaganapati was constructed and a Meru Yantra of Mahaganapati was installed. There was much hue and cry over this yantra. Some are for this and some are against this. The matter was reported to sringeri acharya. Swamigal made the yantra removed and installed 2-D yantra and later the temple was taken over by sringeri pita. This recent trend of 3-D construction to other deities is based on avarana devatas. Based on the avarana devatas of the yantra, they are making the replica of Meru Prastara Sriyantra to other deities also which has to scriptural basis. Amnaya Pitas does not encourage this cult. Even, i have the manuscripts of Yantra Lekhana vidhi which mentions about the anga and pratyanga of the Yantra, the Gayatri Mantra Vidhi (there are 3 gayatri mantra for every yantra). with regards, sriram , S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote: > > > Dear Divine Brother, > > Any yantra as per mantra mahodathi, mantranavam or other texts, can be done in Meru form to determine that devatha. I have the expertise and even for Tithi Nithya the Meru Prastaram for each of them can be done. The concept comes out of the yantra for each devatha and the secret for the measurements of each stage comes from the guru parampara. > Regards, > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN > > > > : sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:42:59 +0100Re: Meru prasthaaram > > > > > Dear gopi,There are 3 prastharas of sriyantra. They are 1) Bhu- prastara 2)Kailasa-prastara 3) Meru prastara.Bhu-prastara is comprehened taking into consideration the oneness of sAmyA bhavana of ashta vAk dEvIs (8 vak devatas). Kailasa prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 51 matrika varna mala. At the bindu sthana of this Kailasa Prastara is the Parasiva in the form of Nishkala swarupa. This kailasa prastara is also called Mahakailasa. In pindanda, it is the bindu sthana of sahasrara padma. Meru prastara is the sAmyA bhavana of 16 nitya kala devatas. Shubha agama panchaka and jnanarnava tantra elucidates these prastara bhedas in detail. Even the so-called bhu- prastara yantra which we see as 2-dimensional, the basement of the yantra should not touch the ground and hence it is placed on the back of srikurma. Now,the concept of 3-dimensional sriyantra is based on the 16 tithi nitya devatasa and 51 matrika vyavastha. The tantra shastra designed the 3-dimensional sriyantra in such a way that it encompasses the these concepts of nitya kalas and matrika varna mala. This is the privilege only given to sriyantra. The concept of panchadasi and its yantra bhavana is evolved from Navarna Mahameru which is given in Jnanarnava tantra. The bhavana of rest of the yantras and devatas are just a part of this sriyantra. Moreover the concept of tithi nityas and entire matrikas are to be found only in srividya and does not belong to any mantra or devata. Even, it is impossible to comprehend other yantras in 3-dimensional way. For further clarification, please go through the Bhaskararaya's LS nama commentary on 3 names: 1) Matrikavarnarupini 2) Mahakailasa Nilaya 3) Meru Rupa.with regards,sriramGopi <antarurjas wrote:Dear allIn my little understanding, the meru prasthaaram is a 3 dimensional form of a srI chakram.Are there such 3 dimensional forms for other yanthraas too? I remember seeing yanthras of other Gods and Goddesses only in a 2 dimensional form. If there are none, then what is the special greatness of the kAmeshwara-kAmeshwarI roopa that only they have the meru?Kindly clarify.praNAms.Gopi[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > _______________ > Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com > http://www.live.com/?scope=video & form=MICOAL > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Dear sriram, I have these 2 " silly " questions. 1. When the meru prasthaaram is a 3-D version of the 2D srI chakram, does the very shape add something more( in terms of energy) to the form? as in, will praying with the meru be " better " than prayer with a srI yanthram? All the devatas ( say as mentioned in the devi khadgamaala and those countless devataas that are suppose to be residing in the sri Yanthra) will exactly be in the same positions in a meru prasthaaram also, or will there be a difference? 2. If this is so, if the 3D shape doesnt add anything more to the 2D shape other than the projection in the third dimension,then why would other yanthras not have a 3-D form? Sriram, as you can see very obviously, these are questions based on simple logic.And as I write them, I only get a " feeling " that i am over simpplifying a lot of things.I have absolutely nil knowledge about the scriptures and hence my apologies to you in asking these questions. praNAms Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Dear gopi, The moment a perfect sriyantra design is drawn with marma sthanas, even though it is bhu/kailasa/meru/ardha meru yantra, it becomes the seat of Mother Tripurasundari. Kanchi Mahaperiyaval says that Sriyantra is a " DIVINE DESIGN " and Yantra itself is the Devata in geometrical form and hence does not require any ENERGISING. No avahana and no visarjana. So, even if it is 2-D or 3-D sriyantra, there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE IN ENERGIES. Householders can worship any prasthara but it should not be inscribed by Bija Mantras. Meru is tithi nitya samanvaya, kailasa is matrika samanvaya and bhu is ashtavak devata samanvaya. These are the different prastharas ordained by Tantra. Now, speaking in your terminology, Kamakshi Sannidhi has " just a bhu prasthara sriyantra " . But, one need not mention the divine and powerful energies it gives out. The positions of khadgamala devatas are same irrespective of dimensions. Now, there are ardha-meru SORT OF YANTRAS to aditya, bala, ganapati. But it is Bhu-prasthara only. Sastra prohibits the touch of Bindu to the ground and hence they are elevated as 3-D. Just my 2 cents. If anybody would like to throw more light i am ready to accept their views. with regards, sriram , Gopi <antarurjas wrote: > > Dear sriram, > > I have these 2 " silly " questions. > > 1. When the meru prasthaaram is a 3-D version of the 2D srI chakram, does the very shape add something more( in terms of energy) to the form? as in, will praying with the meru be " better " than prayer with a srI yanthram? > > All the devatas ( say as mentioned in the devi khadgamaala and those countless devataas that are suppose to be residing in the sri Yanthra) will exactly be in the same positions in a meru prasthaaram also, or will there be a difference? > > 2. If this is so, if the 3D shape doesnt add anything more to the 2D shape other than the projection in the third dimension,then why would other yanthras not have a 3-D form? > > Sriram, as you can see very obviously, these are questions based on simple logic.And as I write them, I only get a " feeling " that i am over simpplifying a lot of things.I have absolutely nil knowledge about the scriptures and hence my apologies to you in asking these questions. > > praNAms > Gopi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed. Regards, Sudarshan sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: Dear gopi, The moment a perfect sriyantra design is drawn with marma sthanas, even though it is bhu/kailasa/meru/ardha meru yantra, it becomes the seat of Mother Tripurasundari. Kanchi Mahaperiyaval says that Sriyantra is a " DIVINE DESIGN " and Yantra itself is the Devata in geometrical form and hence does not require any ENERGISING. No avahana and no visarjana. So, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN : sudarshanbalasubramanian: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards,Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Dear sir, Namaste. If the yantra is " just a piece of drawing " , then i am sorry, you have missed some of the finer aspects of tantra in general and srividya in particular. Once, the yantra lekhana is performed, only the samskaras with pancha gayvas are done. No prana pratishta and " energysings " . Just as Siva is present in narmada bana linga, just as vishnu is present in salagrama, tripurasundari is ever present in sriyantra. Hence, no prana pratishta, no avahana, no visarjana. Regarding the people who are selling the sriyantras in bazar, no comments from my side. Ambaal knows what is wrong and what is right. , S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote: > > By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not. > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN > > > > : sudarshanbalasubramanian: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram > > > I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards,Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Dear Sir, Do you then mean to say that the Parasurama Kalpa sutra and Ratnakara, Srividhyarnavam are all false. They prescribe the vidhi for energising the sriyantra and maha meru. Narmada BaNa linga is considered to be the siva and unless the energy is invoked they are simply stones. Don't people know that a granite vinayaka eventhough represents vinayaka form is not complete unless it is given prana pratishta. Then why then upasakas do the pranapratishta to sriyantra when doing avarana pooja. You have perhaps not understood the vibrations the sriyantra generate and the difference between one that is energised and not energised. For your information people have vouchsafed including Kanchi Maha Periaval, that the energised maha meru and sriyantra were vibrating so much energy, he was beaming with joy and wanted me to give them only after such prana pratishta. I do not want to comment further on this subject and treat the matter as closed. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN : sriram_sapthasathi: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:55:21 +0000 Re: Meru prasthaaram Dear sir,Namaste. If the yantra is " just a piece of drawing " , then i am sorry, you have missed some of the finer aspects of tantra in general and srividya in particular. Once, the yantra lekhana is performed, only the samskaras with pancha gayvas are done. No prana pratishta and " energysings " . Just as Siva is present in narmada bana linga, just as vishnu is present in salagrama, tripurasundari is ever present in sriyantra. Hence, no prana pratishta, no avahana, no visarjana. Regarding the people who are selling the sriyantras in bazar, no comments from my side. Ambaal knows what is wrong and what is right. , S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:>> By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not.> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN> > > > : sudarshanbalasubramanian: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram> > > I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards,Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:> _______________ Want to explore the world? Visit MSN Travel for the best deals. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 shri gurubhyo namaH shri mahAgaNapataye namaH Folks: I am also not sure of the true value of a Shri Yantra that is purchased in the market, or one that is not received directly from the hands of the Guru. In our Guru paramparA, shri Yantras are not purchased from outside, but are given only to the shishyas who need it, by the Guru. I am so blessed to have received a simple, 2D metallic (looks like copper) shri Yantra from my Guruji. I have turned down offers to receive " sphatika merus " , silver 2D shri Yantras, and so on. How can the blessing bestowed by the Guru ever be improved upon ? In this respect, I totally agree with Shriram. I am glad to keep this Shri Yantra, and I will be glad to pass it down the generations, with proper initiations and observances, of course. Thanks and Regards. KR. shri mAtre namaH _____ On Behalf Of sriram Monday, October 13, 2008 8:55 AM Re: Meru prasthaaram Dear sir, Namaste. If the yantra is " just a piece of drawing " , then i am sorry, you have missed some of the finer aspects of tantra in general and srividya in particular. Once, the yantra lekhana is performed, only the samskaras with pancha gayvas are done. No prana pratishta and " energysings " . Just as Siva is present in narmada bana linga, just as vishnu is present in salagrama, tripurasundari is ever present in sriyantra. Hence, no prana pratishta, no avahana, no visarjana. Regarding the people who are selling the sriyantras in bazar, no comments from my side. Ambaal knows what is wrong and what is right. @ <%40> .com, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote: > > By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not. > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN > > > > : sudarshanbalasubramanian: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram > > > I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards,Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 What about various srichakrams received from Mathams and other temples as part of commemoration services like kumbhabishekams or functions etc? are they also energized by virtue of the bindu? and do they also then have to be offered pancha puja etc? Also even the LS books available in stores have a Srichakram in the front cover with the bindhu and all. I was under the impression that after drawing the chakram it still needs some form of activation like prana prathishta? regards Vishwam Kumar Ramachandran <kramach Monday, October 13, 2008 3:00:07 PM RE: Re: Meru prasthaaram shri gurubhyo namaH shri mahAgaNapataye namaH Folks: I am also not sure of the true value of a Shri Yantra that is purchased in the market, or one that is not received directly from the hands of the Guru. In our Guru paramparA, shri Yantras are not purchased from outside, but are given only to the shishyas who need it, by the Guru. I am so blessed to have received a simple, 2D metallic (looks like copper) shri Yantra from my Guruji. I have turned down offers to receive " sphatika merus " , silver 2D shri Yantras, and so on. How can the blessing bestowed by the Guru ever be improved upon ? In this respect, I totally agree with Shriram. I am glad to keep this Shri Yantra, and I will be glad to pass it down the generations, with proper initiations and observances, of course. Thanks and Regards. KR. shri mAtre namaH _____ @ .com [@ .com] On Behalf Of sriram Monday, October 13, 2008 8:55 AM @ .com Re: Meru prasthaaram Dear sir, Namaste. If the yantra is " just a piece of drawing " , then i am sorry, you have missed some of the finer aspects of tantra in general and srividya in particular. Once, the yantra lekhana is performed, only the samskaras with pancha gayvas are done. No prana pratishta and " energysings " . Just as Siva is present in narmada bana linga, just as vishnu is present in salagrama, tripurasundari is ever present in sriyantra. Hence, no prana pratishta, no avahana, no visarjana. Regarding the people who are selling the sriyantras in bazar, no comments from my side. Ambaal knows what is wrong and what is right. @ <ambaa- l%40. com> .com, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai@. ..> wrote: > > By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not. > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN > > > > : sudarshanbalasubram anian : Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram > > > I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards, Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 One cannot come to a conclusion that all sriyantras and maha meru sold by various agencies are not correct or useful. If they are done perfectly and given prana pratishta as per parasurama kalpa sutra, then it becomes fit for worship. You have to find out yourself about its capacity to energise the environment. Most of the shops sell them just as they sell any calender picture of Indian god and goddesses. According to me unless energised perfectly they are useless and does not deserve any worship. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN : krishvishy: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:55:46 -0700Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram What about various srichakrams received from Mathams and other temples as part of commemoration services like kumbhabishekams or functions etc?are they also energized by virtue of the bindu? and do they also then have to be offered pancha puja etc?Also even the LS books available in stores have a Srichakram in the front cover with the bindhu and all.I was under the impression that after drawing the chakram it still needs some form of activation like prana prathishta?regardsVishwamKumar Ramachandran <kramach: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:00:07 PMRE: Re: Meru prasthaaramshri gurubhyo namaHshri mahAgaNapataye namaHFolks:I am also not sure of the true value of a Shri Yantra that is purchased inthe market,or one that is not received directly from the hands of the Guru.In our Guru paramparA, shri Yantras are not purchased from outside, but aregiven only to the shishyas who need it, by the Guru.I am so blessed to have received a simple, 2D metallic (looks like copper)shri Yantra from my Guruji. I have turned down offers to receive " sphatika merus " , silver 2Dshri Yantras, and so on. How can the blessing bestowed by the Guru ever be improved upon?In this respect, I totally agree with Shriram. I am glad to keep this Shri Yantra, and I will be glad to pass it down thegenerations, with proper initiations and observances, of course.Thanks and Regards.KR.shri mAtre namaH_____ @ .com [@ .com] On Behalf OfsriramMonday, October 13, 2008 8:55 AM@ ..com Re: Meru prasthaaramDear sir,Namaste. If the yantra is " just a piece of drawing " , then i am sorry, you have missed some of the finer aspects of tantra in general and srividya in particular. Once, the yantra lekhana is performed, only the samskaras with pancha gayvas are done. No prana pratishta and " energysings " . Just as Siva is present in narmada bana linga, just as vishnu is present in salagrama, tripurasundari is ever present in sriyantra. Hence, no prana pratishta, no avahana, no visarjana. Regarding the people who are selling the sriyantras in bazar, no comments from my side. Ambaal knows what is wrong and what is right. @ <ambaa- l%40. com> .com, SSangaranarayanan <sangarsai@. ..> wrote:>> By the centre bindu alone the sriyantra does not get the sancity. Unless the marmas and sandhis are perfect to the core and the sriyantra is energised as per the dictums, it is only a piece of drawing. If Bindu alone counts, then the countless drawings on temple walls and those sriyantras sold in the bazaar should have brought abundance of divine energy to the entire environment, whereas it does not.> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN> > > > : sudarshanbalasubram anian : Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:34:19 +0100Re: Re: Meru prasthaaram> > > I have heard many seniors concurring with what Sri Sriram says here. As soon as the dot representing the Bindu madhyam is depicted, the Sriyantram immediately acquires the sanidhya of the Divine Mother. Some advice placing some gomayam on the Shrichakram once the drawing is completed.Regards, Sudarshansriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Want to explore the world? Visit MSN Travel for the best deals. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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