Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Mystic BlueStar, All ... Judgement means seeing, discriminating. Ethics is the the language and path of seeing, of the seer -- of those who witness and share and work with spirit. Has nothing to do with Patriarchal Western concepts of morality or " good or bad " slave indoctrination systems. [Our language is alive and clear, and not 'English' nor dictated by school or publisher or 'Crown'.] Respect only exists when you are able to judge, to see, the individuality of spirit, of culture, of personality. Love is seeing, speaking, singing ... Viz. GrandMother Sun! Millennium and discipline is not a 'spanking', it is our chosen path, the rituals and song, of our service and creation. ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ JL wrote, Ethics has nothing to do with spirituality. Ethics is concerned with morals (right or correct conduct) which comes back to judgment of yourself or someone else. Spirituality, in its purest form, is about unselfish/unconditional love -- non-judgmental love. There is no right or wrong conduct if you are practicing spirituality. If you love yourself without judgment of any kind, you can do no less for others around you. Only mankind decides if something is " right " or " wrong " . The Universe couldn't care less. To Them, what is IS. And so it is. Namaste, JL ~~~~~~~~~~ Twain wrote: Thank you for allowing me to forgive myself. Truly it is our self-'judgement' which becomes 'judgement' of others -- not 'judgement' at all, really, that is discriminating, understanding, seeing the rainbow -- that SELF which only exists in the moment and moves on, evolves -- When, as you just shared, we forgive and grow on ... Millennium Twain ~~~ ~~~~ LunaNegra said: About your post on forgiveness...I agree very much on what you said. I have to agree that first of all one should forgive himself/herself. It is most important to forgive the self in order for truly be able to forgive others. When we look into our own eyes and can see the reflection the Self without feeling anything but true love for what we see then only we can spread forgiveness in the level of Universal Love. Walk softly and in peace Luna ~~~ ~~~~ --- Christopher Blackwell <myrddin> wrote: I would agree that we judge ourselves far more harshly than anyone else will. Part of it is taught ... ~~~ ~~~~ Ernest Steadman wrote: Very good commentary on self-forgiveness, Chela. Thank you for sharing it with us. ~~~ ~~~~ In active-indigos, Claire Born wrote: Divine Healing through Ho'oponopono, the ancient Hawaiian art of healing, lies in taking responsibility as the Divinity who you are. Take responsibility, within. Acknowledge the woes of both sides. Apologise, within. Forgive, within. Express Absolute Love, within... for All in the situation. ~~~ ~~~~ " Ken McMaster " <maniteegray> wrote: In my opinion (and for what it's worth), that was well put Chai. I disagree with a Christian thought that says even the infant is born with sin. True, all Humans are born into this existence with the capabilities of " sinning " or trespassing onto others, but an infant has done nothing. ~~~ ~~~~ Re: [ill-lumi-naughti?] One (Jewish?) World Mother? you share the peace, Chela! awakened, connected, to OUR Global Heart ... 'Grid', 'Field', 'Morphogenetic' Mind ... revealed Maitreyah, Messiah, Maschiak, Maadi, AdiShakti ... you have found OUR love, and embraced HER! Millennium Twain --- Leesa Miller <chelaruse> wrote: Re: [illuminati_ Globalism] [ill-lumi-naughti? ] One (Jewish?) World Government Greetings Chai and others, Yes, I am stepping out to agree with MT. In all due respect, I have personal feelings about this topic of conversation that I would like to share. It & #65533;s just my opinion, my perspective, and please forgive my writing skills, I am not a good writer. I don & #65533;t mean to offend, I only mean to add to this discussion further. When people hear the word & #65533;forgiveness & #65533; human nature automatically treat it like a something out of a bad relationship between two parties, friends or lovers, etc. & #65533;I forgive you because you did this to me & #65533; and & #65533;I forgive you because you did this thing or created this cause to others. No, they are not that smart normally. People just don & #65533;t think that deep, they are too busy with their IPODs, blackberries and cell phones, wink, wink. Ha, ha. There & #65533;s a deeper meaning for SELF-forgiveness, forgiving oneself first and the ripple effect goes out to the millions. Wow, to think of the burdens mankind have created within themselves and their communities, environments, government, churches and schools is overwhelming and that thought holds the key to the workings of this world we live in. To go on more, to think of those burdens we carry to keep our jobs, our status and even our friendships are overwhelming indeed. That is it & #65533;s own mystery to really ponder & #65533; The ripple affects from years of acting and reacting in this fashion is why the laymen of this world are held hostage and do not understand healing the self first, is also forgiving oneself and others in the healing process of it & #65533;s self. Did that make any sense? There are big differences between the many laws that where first created years ago to this period in human evolution (The millennium). Those same laws created years ago, most are twisted to be applied to this day and age of law. The unfairness and injustice that allows & #65533;justice & #65533; to become corrupted or used as a tool by a person in power, to twist and manipulate others wills according to that said law is common practice in today & #65533;s world among all cultures and nationalities. When a law should be outdated, it isn & #65533;t. People have a hard time letting go of the old; our history confirms it! People don & #65533;t know how to fight the good fight anymore. Why, because domcrates attached " a wrong " with the word fighting, but there is a differance and even St. Paul spoke of fighting the good fight. Such is human nature, hard to change; they can not forgive themselves, and admit to their own creations that go wrong or bad, they simply can not find it within themselves to forgive others either on a global level and even with those close at home. Because of the injustices from the past, holding grudges from others, and the hurt and the mentalities of others in power who live behind the glass mirror for a weekly paycheck. Hell, we all do it because it could mean life or death. Like an organizational chart of corporate America or other counties for that fact. It is a global problem, not just all America , which I see how the other counties like to blame the world & #65533;s problems on American & #65533;s cultures, history and their citizens. The media plays along too! Well, that is my opinion, and how I see things in the now, but you know our future looks brighter, it really does! The past doesn & #65533;t treat the future kindly, the past holds freedom hostage in the future. Groups of one kind, clicks, cults, politicians, religion dominations, educational institutes, and the media just to name a few are the creators of this world and are a major part of the worlds problems and our statutes. First intentions (present) are not always lasting intentions (future). Only if we were all telapathic would we be able to see what we are creating in the now that will cause the ripple effect down the road to others. We all sit in amazement watching other people who form groups of rebellion, such as the hate groups and stuck within their own self-created mentalities. I have even seen many that have great pledges, but they have no honor, no truths for the worlds people. Therefore, forgiveness of oneself may be the first step after all if one would take into consideration the out come of their individual desires and the power within them. The outcome: by forgiving ourselves and what we have created in our personal lives and stop creating the ripple effects from the pasts, present and future thoughts our world would be less hateful. WE all do it! WE simply need to change to more & #65533;right human relations & #65533; attitudes among ourselves, and greed would not seem to consume us as it did before. It starts within our individual selves, forgiving our selves, others, and show some bravery and chivalry. Believe in good creations, and good outcomes for each other. Thanks for reading! Peace, Chela Millennium Twain <yonibluestar@ .co. uk> wrote: Chai, our work is revealing the truth, and then focusing the resulting World storm on ethics -- OUT of the old paths of power. i.e., law must not be any part of it -- the legal aristocracy is ALSO being dis-empowered -- the protection of the global banking church of corporate industrial 'gangster-dumb' . institutional law is the obstacle to revelation of truth -- as the highest law, in the global corporate security state -- is that you may NEVER reveal any of the truth, NEVER discuss the intelligence and ops ... they disguise it behind the rhetoric of 'privacy' -- the greatest psychic icon of royalty, the aristocracy -- but really it is about protecting themselves from exposure of the sickness in their own lives, the lack of wholeness/integrity in their own evolution, the abuse and mistakes and violence they have acted out on their siblings, our entire world. you will note that they do NOT extend the privilege of privacy to the serf masses of the planet, the 'citizen' 'democratic' populations. the WHOLE intent and language and fundamental assumptions, ways and means, of law is to prey upon the people. the bodies, the minds, the artistry and work of the people are but the gardens of their pillaging, the game preserve of their murder. by law. it is that LAW which must end. only through forgiveness can the truth be revealed, and the stricture/structure s of privilege and place be removed. ALL will be judged, every YOU and I, and all will be changed, evolved, uplifted ... to our great wonder and chagrin. so hold on. that tide is upon us ... Millennium Twain --- Chaiyah wrote: We can't invoke forgiveness until we know whom to forgive for what. I must not have been very clear, I guess. We need to expose the Truth, first. Secondly, we need to prosecute Law. Third, we must exclude those from leadership for all time, those who sell out the human race. Finally, we can forgive those who have been misled, harmed, confused and confounded. But, forgiveness is NOT Step One. Okay? : ) Chai ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Twain <yonibluestar@ ...> wrote: it is true -- the Bankers, and the silly world who danced to their media, were the old power that orchestrated the Russian Revolution, the 911 Play, and the War Against Iraq and America. the Jews may be the powerhouse within the Banking World ... but they are not the whole of it, nor their Christian army. [nor to blame.] our only avenue to a future is forgiveness ... the only mechanism for healing is tears, acceptance ... the pathway to remembering, knowing, growing! anger is but our way of denying change, healing, awakening. what we are experiencing now -- in Seven-Seven -- the birth of global consciousness, the Messiah Maitreyah, Adi-Shakti Maadi, Maschiak Mother -- is the Great Turning -- consequence of being sat upon by the Elephant of fraud and servitude -- these last seven years since the carrying out of the 'Bank's seizure of power in the US, and their 911 Coup and War Against the Middle East -- that Great Silence has come full circle -- with several hundred million North American's, sat upon for seven years -- and billions of their victims worldwide -- all standing up to throw out the banks and corporations and governments and media and schools of bestial torture and privilege -- and erect a PlanetWide Platform of People, all Peoples, all People! all cultures, all ancestries, all wisdoms, all beauties! without the Jew, ours would be a sad and dark and shallow world! so too the Hindu and the Hopi, the Maori and the Mayan, the Irish and the (Indigo!) WE are the One World Body ... Heart ... Mind ... Arrived! Millennium Twain " Do I love YOU?! " --- Joanne Gainey <> wrote: .... If not for wealthy Jews who lived in the country we would likely not even have a country because private money has been loaned to the government beginning BEFORE the American revolution -- and much of that money has come from the life savings of hard working Jews ... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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