Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I have already mailed this and it appears that the paper is at some places corrupted as such once again I am reproducing the same paper  My dear friends and likeminded persons REG : PITHRU PAKSHA – OFFERING AND PRAYING THE DEPARTED SOULS OF THE FAMILY TREE- FORTNIGHT COMMENCING FROM 5TH OF THIS MONTH TO 18TH – WHAT DOES IT INDICATE AND WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY As per Hindu Traditional belief and as supported by several scientists of this subject, I am presenting this information for your reading and taking cognizance of it, if convinced. The dark days of the month of Bhadrapada Maasa as per Chandramaan calendar and Aswiyuja Maasa as per the Barhaspatya Maan Calendar as followed by most of the North India based people, the fort night till the no moon day or the Amavasya is considered as most sacred in terms of praying the departed souls in the family tree for their peace and taking blessings for the prosperity of our children and grand children. Is it really so? This is being questioned even by many Hindus and gradually these are considered as baseless beliefs and people are giving them up. It is a most unfortunate state. Dr Robert gave a clear and nice presentation on this topic and his presentation is placed in my blog in the name of http://ritualsandprocedures.blogspot.com. Please refer to the pages where tarpana vidhi is updated. However, for quick reference I am once again presenting the topic for the information of all the readers, and I am only eager that none of us should skip this great opportunity. I am giving many alternatives and the readers can accept any one convenient to them, but I appeal to you all not to miss this opportunity. A logical presentation is that – this has come from Vedic Order of life and Vedaas never – I repeat – NEVER – misdirect any one of us NOR the great Sages of India who worked on these sciences. May be, we may not get a convincing answer as to how a small offering on this Mother Earth reaches one who is no more in the physical form. It is also difficult to convince at this hour in spite of the fact that scientists like Dr Robert worked on this and give us a clear picture. Surely there is a day, where we all upkeep our eye brows and accept that the Great Sages are right and they gave us proper and right direction. Much before that, let us go by the aforementioned logic and accept the tradition in any manner that suits us as per our place of stay and as per our circumstances. How this tarpana is to be done and what is the procedure. 1)     We need to know the tidhi i.e. the day of the departed soul of the father or mother and on that day Pinda Pradana is to be done which needs the assistance of a Pundit or a Purohit. 2)     I do not get a Pundit or a Purohit and what is to be done then? Please take some black sesame seeds and take the sequence as mentioned in the order below and start releasing the water three times between index finger and thumb of right hand and for easy flow of water the hand has to be bent to the right a little. Those who wear Yagnopaveet, the position of this are to be changed to the reverse direction which is called as Apasavyam. 3)     I do not know the names of grandfather and the great grandfather or grandmother and great grandmother either mother side or father side, what should I do? In these cases, since names of the parents are known, please insert “Yagnappa†for male or “Yagnamma†for female and continue to do this and do not leave this just because the names are not known. 4)     I do not know some of the names in the order, and then what should I do? You can leave water and a sesame seed by just remembering them and that is the only thing we can do. But before this please try from all sources and remember it is essential for us to update the family tree and it is THE GREATNESS OF INDIAN TRADITION. 5)     I do not know the Gothra of some of the families and what should I do? I suggest you to say “Shri Mahaa Vishnu Gothra†or “Shri Mahadeva Gothra†in these areas. 6)     I do not know whether they are alive or otherwise and what should I do? I suggest skipping this when it is not a certainty. This is to be remembered that THIS has to be given only for a departed soul in the family tree and not otherwise. 7)     I do not get sesame seeds what should I do? Please try sincerely and explore all possibilities (this is to be remembered that the parents and grandparents strived very hard for our future and only on account of this we are in a position to reach this stage) and for any reason the sesame seeds are not available, please do not give up this but continue to do this procedure using at least water 8)     I get only white sesame seeds what should I do? You can make use of them and get some item prepared in the home so that it can be offered in the names of the departed souls to near and dear. But the procedure has to be followed using water. 9)     I do not feel like doing all this and I do not believe all this, what should I do? Please take some food items and clothing and offer them to the aged in any old age homes in the names of the departed souls and this is the least we can do on humanitarian grounds. 10)  I do not have money to do anything what should I do? If you believe all this, offering of water does not cost anything, you can do this. 11)  I do not have time for all this, what should I do? Please go out during day time, look at the Sun Lord and please remember all the departed souls of the family tree and pray for their peace. You can also offer some food items in the work spot to some of your colleagues in the names of the departed souls. 12)  Is there any direction for all this? Yes, one should preferably sit facing south to do this when it is a must to face east while making a sankalpa and this is a basic rule for any sankalpa. 13)  I do not wish to do any of the things what I should do? – Please forgive me; I have no answer for this. 14)  What is the order in which tarpana or the panda pradana. Firstly - father, grandfather and great grandfather; secondly – mother, grandmother and great grandmother; thirdly – any step mother; fourth –mother side – mothers father, mothers grandfather, mothers great grandfather, then, mothers mother, mothers grandmother, mothers great grandmother; fifth – own wife; sixth – sons and unmarried daughters; seventh – brothers; eighth – fathers brothers; ninth – mothers brothers and his wife; tenth – own sisters; eleventh – grandson; twelfth – sisters son; thirteenth – fathers sisters; fourteenth – mothers sisters; fifteenth – own son-in-law; sixteenth – own brother in laws or wife’s brothers; seventeenth – daughter in law; eighteenth – father in law and mother in law; nineteenth – master and finally to whom so ever knowingly or unknowingly we are indebted – for them. 15)  The last one – taking the yagnopaveeta at the knots and putting a drop of water on it and while squeezing, offer the drops to those in the family known and unknown, departed without having any sons or without any lineage. 16)  I do not have Yagnopaveeta, what should I do? You can leave a spoon of water remembering all those in the family tree.  Learned people in the groups who may receive this mail may add their suggestions too. It may not be out of order here that we, the HINDUs with all rich tradition is trying to give up these rituals by some pretext or the other. While, it is a matter or real appreciation, in some countries and in some other religions, people give offerings duly observing “Fathers day†“Mothers Dayâ€, “Grand Parents Day†and so on. Unfortunately, some among the Hindus are slipping from the procedures of either in Hindu System or in some system of some other religion. It is not fair.  Let us respect those who strived hard for us, let us consider this as a “thank giving†or the least of it, let us maintain the family tree and remember all those in our family at least by observing this so that we can pass on the similar information to our next generation.  Last, but not least, if we do not remember our family tree, how and in what manner our next generation prefers to remember all of us. For every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction.  Can we afford leaving the next generation without any knowledge of their family tree?    Let us consider these days as “Thanks Giving Daysâ€Â at least.  Yours affly HARA HARA MAHADEVA DR P V SESHA SAI ASWAMEDHAYAAJJI Dr P V Sesha Sai Aswamedhayaaji Camp: Albany New York, USA Web http://aswamedhayaaji.com e mail shodasisai, shodasisai Cell Phone 518 368 7956 1st September 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 respected dr rao these days many cheaper magical tantras mantras publications costing hardlt indian rs five to ten in very rough pages are being sold on footpath - these books gave few mantras of tantra shastras young persons-who are not at all matures comes in contacts of such dealers who first sel them cheaper books and then directs either to so called cheaters labelling them selves as tantriks un fortunately NOW a days in any channel-or channels one can see such serials of tantra visyas and chanting some mantras taken maostly from Durga sapt shati or durga path or chandi path and chanted in serials Thus now youths are crazy and to get some thing either looses money and ends to nothing but frustrations etc i have come across few such mails asking openly in this group platform to show the way-to reach to yakshinis and FUNNY thing -such persons do not know the risks involved in attracting such super human powers of yakshas/kinners/gandharvas/apsaras- i pray and request your good self to please to write few articles and kindly explain such group members to either stay away or to go to a true guide and guru like you to get proper guidence one person placed a note on our shambhani--where in he asked to know the vidhis-sadhana of maa rati priya when i answered anbout rati and kaam and the curse of maa durga-parvati-and lord shiva then he forwarded that he wish to do sadhana of yakshini rati priya and wrote that he is un aware about rati-and kaam deva look sir-this is a tragedy and this shall laed to very diar consequences rati priya-named yakshini-and do do sadhana to see that she obeys to him-to fulfill his wishes of health and wealth...!!! well sadhana itself is very very tough neded havan samagri also very expensive-He can not afford 250 gms of real Musk and 500 gms of real saffrons-plus so many other herbs....!!!wnd as a learned man you can understand the hidden motive of either to do vashikaran or in other words to get some one -he being a male-naturally an innocent girl-is his target-BUT by doing sadhana-he is heading to......!!!! if he fails in performing the pooja with perfection-then what will be the mental status of the man...???!!! total mad well-sir-i suggest you to write few articles in this collumns-group-to open the eyes and either to stay away from such upasana of super huam bodies-who are NOT deva yoni- pl boss-do wome thing on this platform best reagrds Dr Dinesh k jani PhD Ahmedabad India --- On Fri, 4/9/09, Dr Perisepalli Venkata Sesha Sai <aswamedhayaagam wrote: Dr Perisepalli Venkata Sesha Sai <aswamedhayaagam Mahalaya Paksham - the Procedure " BRAHMIN-ASSOCIATION Moderator " <brahmin-association-owner, " hindu mahasbha " <hindu_mahasabha, " Hindu Voice UK " <editor, ilovebharat (AT) googl (DOT) com, ilovebharat+owner (AT) googl (DOT) com, info, " kaushik Brother " <missionindia, " kerala brah " <kbstvm, " kerala brahman " <kbstvm, " Mysore UluchukammeBrahminSangha " <mysuluchukammebsangha, " om namah " , " sambhavi group " <shambhavi >, " telugu bhakti " <-owner >, " US brahmins " <usbrahmins >, " " <paramaacharya > Friday, 4 September, 2009, 5:37 AM  I have already mailed this and it appears that the paper is at some places corrupted as such once again I am reproducing the same paper  My dear friends and likeminded persons REG : PITHRU PAKSHA – OFFERING AND PRAYING THE DEPARTED SOULS OF THE FAMILY TREE- FORTNIGHT COMMENCING FROM 5TH OF THIS MONTH TO 18TH – WHAT DOES IT INDICATE AND WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY As per Hindu Traditional belief and as supported by several scientists of this subject, I am presenting this information for your reading and taking cognizance of it, if convinced. The dark days of the month of Bhadrapada Maasa as per Chandramaan calendar and Aswiyuja Maasa as per the Barhaspatya Maan Calendar as followed by most of the North India based people, the fort night till the no moon day or the Amavasya is considered as most sacred in terms of praying the departed souls in the family tree for their peace and taking blessings for the prosperity of our children and grand children. Is it really so? This is being questioned even by many Hindus and gradually these are considered as baseless beliefs and people are giving them up. It is a most unfortunate state. Dr Robert gave a clear and nice presentation on this topic and his presentation is placed in my blog in the name of http://ritualsandpr ocedures. blogspot. com. Please refer to the pages where tarpana vidhi is updated. However, for quick reference I am once again presenting the topic for the information of all the readers, and I am only eager that none of us should skip this great opportunity. I am giving many alternatives and the readers can accept any one convenient to them, but I appeal to you all not to miss this opportunity. A logical presentation is that – this has come from Vedic Order of life and Vedaas never – I repeat – NEVER – misdirect any one of us NOR the great Sages of India who worked on these sciences. May be, we may not get a convincing answer as to how a small offering on this Mother Earth reaches one who is no more in the physical form. It is also difficult to convince at this hour in spite of the fact that scientists like Dr Robert worked on this and give us a clear picture. Surely there is a day, where we all upkeep our eye brows and accept that the Great Sages are right and they gave us proper and right direction. Much before that, let us go by the aforementioned logic and accept the tradition in any manner that suits us as per our place of stay and as per our circumstances. How this tarpana is to be done and what is the procedure. 1)     We need to know the tidhi i.e. the day of the departed soul of the father or mother and on that day Pinda Pradana is to be done which needs the assistance of a Pundit or a Purohit. 2)     I do not get a Pundit or a Purohit and what is to be done then? Please take some black sesame seeds and take the sequence as mentioned in the order below and start releasing the water three times between index finger and thumb of right hand and for easy flow of water the hand has to be bent to the right a little. Those who wear Yagnopaveet, the position of this are to be changed to the reverse direction which is called as Apasavyam. 3)     I do not know the names of grandfather and the great grandfather or grandmother and great grandmother either mother side or father side, what should I do? In these cases, since names of the parents are known, please insert “Yagnappa†for male or “Yagnamma†for female and continue to do this and do not leave this just because the names are not known. 4)     I do not know some of the names in the order, and then what should I do? You can leave water and a sesame seed by just remembering them and that is the only thing we can do. But before this please try from all sources and remember it is essential for us to update the family tree and it is THE GREATNESS OF INDIAN TRADITION. 5)     I do not know the Gothra of some of the families and what should I do? I suggest you to say “Shri Mahaa Vishnu Gothra†or “Shri Mahadeva Gothra†in these areas. 6)     I do not know whether they are alive or otherwise and what should I do? I suggest skipping this when it is not a certainty. This is to be remembered that THIS has to be given only for a departed soul in the family tree and not otherwise. 7)     I do not get sesame seeds what should I do? Please try sincerely and explore all possibilities (this is to be remembered that the parents and grandparents strived very hard for our future and only on account of this we are in a position to reach this stage) and for any reason the sesame seeds are not available, please do not give up this but continue to do this procedure using at least water 8)     I get only white sesame seeds what should I do? You can make use of them and get some item prepared in the home so that it can be offered in the names of the departed souls to near and dear. But the procedure has to be followed using water. 9)     I do not feel like doing all this and I do not believe all this, what should I do? Please take some food items and clothing and offer them to the aged in any old age homes in the names of the departed souls and this is the least we can do on humanitarian grounds. 10)  I do not have money to do anything what should I do? If you believe all this, offering of water does not cost anything, you can do this. 11)  I do not have time for all this, what should I do? Please go out during day time, look at the Sun Lord and please remember all the departed souls of the family tree and pray for their peace. You can also offer some food items in the work spot to some of your colleagues in the names of the departed souls. 12)  Is there any direction for all this? Yes, one should preferably sit facing south to do this when it is a must to face east while making a sankalpa and this is a basic rule for any sankalpa. 13)  I do not wish to do any of the things what I should do? – Please forgive me; I have no answer for this. 14)  What is the order in which tarpana or the panda pradana. Firstly - father, grandfather and great grandfather; secondly – mother, grandmother and great grandmother; thirdly – any step mother; fourth –mother side – mothers father, mothers grandfather, mothers great grandfather, then, mothers mother, mothers grandmother, mothers great grandmother; fifth – own wife; sixth – sons and unmarried daughters; seventh – brothers; eighth – fathers brothers; ninth – mothers brothers and his wife; tenth – own sisters; eleventh – grandson; twelfth – sisters son; thirteenth – fathers sisters; fourteenth – mothers sisters; fifteenth – own son-in-law; sixteenth – own brother in laws or wife’s brothers; seventeenth – daughter in law; eighteenth – father in law and mother in law; nineteenth – master and finally to whom so ever knowingly or unknowingly we are indebted – for them. 15)  The last one – taking the yagnopaveeta at the knots and putting a drop of water on it and while squeezing, offer the drops to those in the family known and unknown, departed without having any sons or without any lineage. 16)  I do not have Yagnopaveeta, what should I do? You can leave a spoon of water remembering all those in the family tree.  Learned people in the groups who may receive this mail may add their suggestions too. It may not be out of order here that we, the HINDUs with all rich tradition is trying to give up these rituals by some pretext or the other. While, it is a matter or real appreciation, in some countries and in some other religions, people give offerings duly observing “Fathers day†“Mothers Dayâ€, “Grand Parents Day†and so on. Unfortunately, some among the Hindus are slipping from the procedures of either in Hindu System or in some system of some other religion. It is not fair.  Let us respect those who strived hard for us, let us consider this as a “thank giving†or the least of it, let us maintain the family tree and remember all those in our family at least by observing this so that we can pass on the similar information to our next generation.  Last, but not least, if we do not remember our family tree, how and in what manner our next generation prefers to remember all of us. For every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction.  Can we afford leaving the next generation without any knowledge of their family tree?    Let us consider these days as “Thanks Giving Daysâ€Â at least.  Yours affly HARA HARA MAHADEVA DR P V SESHA SAI ASWAMEDHAYAAJJI Dr P V Sesha Sai Aswamedhayaaji Camp: Albany New York, USA Web http://aswamedhayaa ji.com� e mail shodasisai (AT) gmail (DOT) com, shodasisai (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Cell Phone 518 368 7956 1st September 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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