Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Shreeramji, Thanks for the mail. I have recently recited Lalita Trishati Nama Stotra on Fridays, as per the advise of a Jyothisa Guru. He is a Bhuvaneshwari worshiper too. I was not even heard of this Stotra before. Since I was not aware of the formalities of Initiation, I have asked another Devi Bhakta on the same and he said, if some spiritual person is saying you to do this and you have it in mind, it means Devi herself wanted you to chant this and guiding you through someone else. He also stated that normally senior sadhakas only chant this stotra. As per this, I have started reciting. Now please tell me your views on this. Regards, Kannan Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " para_anuloma " <para_anuloma> wrote: > > Dear Kannanji, > > Yes,it does require initiation. > > Lalitha Sahasranama > Trishati and Khadgamala require initiation. > > Infact according to some Trishati is even more powerful for three > reasons > > 1. It has emnated from the divine lips of Paraamba Shree > Rajarajeshwari Herself > > 2. It is an explantion to the panchadasi--if you peruse Trishati you > will find that each stanza starts with one syllable of the > panchadasi. Thus the panchadasi Tatwa is imbibed by the aspirant. > Which makes it all the more necessary for the aspirant to get > intiation for Trishati from his Guru. > > 3. Rishi Agasthya was at the feet of Hayagreeva Bhagavan for many > years before the hesitant Hayamukha Lord gave the trishati to the > devoted Rishi.This makes it even more worthwhile to practice and > chant.This litany was granted permission by Paradevata to be chanted > by Agasthya and other Kaliyuga Manavas with due corrections however > (The trishati we have is not the original yogic one but still it is > of high power). > > Please see my old postings where I mentioned all these. > > But you may do the 25 names of the Rajarajeshwari for high power > without initiation. I have posted an article by the > name 'panchavimshati Devi Naamaani' please peruse it for the twenty > five names. > > Hope this helps... > > > Yours yogically, > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " kankan_73 " > <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > Dear Shreeramji, > > > > Please let me know whether Initiation is required for chanting > Lalitha > > Trishati Nama Stothra. > > > > Thanks & regards, > > Kannan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Kannanji, I waa not proffering my views when I said thus in my earlier posting. It was not my personal view. I would be glad to give everything to everyone. Else if I was so secretive I would not have created this group and spend my time here. I would rather do more hours of my sadhana and other work.I love Amba and also Her devotees. There are some points to note here: 1. A Bhuvaneshwari worshipper may or may not be a Srividya Upasaka and might not know the seriousness of it.Just because one is a shaktha or a devi bhaktha one cannot be assumed that he will know wverything about all paths. In today's world of compromises everything is comprised so goodness too is compromised as part of Parabrahmic play of karma.To ascribe everything to Divine mother is great but convinient ascribing of only a few things and the rest to yourself seems to bespeak of hypocrisy. If you have totally surrended to Her that is ok. He said thus to not hurt your enthusiasm for reciting the litany. 2. Jyothisha Guru maybe a Guru in Astrology and that if he teaches you that science spiritually.He is not your Srividya Guru much less your Srividya Sad Guru! I can understand if someone has initiated you into Panchadasi even if he is not a srividya upasaka perse and then asking you to do Trishati(even this is not correct) but an 'Jyotisha Guru' is not a Srividya Guru unless he is doing Srividya Upasana side by side and is your Srividya Upasana Guru and has initiated you into Panchadasi and other formalities and then given you permission to do Trishati 3.If Devi wanted you to chant this litany and has guided through some person--You may as well take that Devi s now warning through me the ill effects of chanting without initiation and urging you to take initiation before you chant blissfully the sacred litany. Also, I never said take it from my Guru. I always say take it from a comptenet Srividya adept in all my postings and only when rarely members ask me about my Guru I direct them to the first file in our Group for contact information.My Gurunatha has asked me to refrain from too much of advertisement for Him.But nevertheless I do tell and inform sincere aspirants who want to get deeksha from Him. You might fruitfully seek a Srividya Upasaka and get intiiation from him for Srividya and then chant the Trishati with glee.This would be the right course and a safe one too. Also, some conditions are laid down in Sahasranama for giving to a person the litany(so also the trishati) It should not be given to a 1.Fool(spiritual fool,nothing to do with education or intelligence) 2.Athiest or a non-believer 3.Evil person Should be given to person with immense faith in Divine mother. 'Na shatayaa na Dushtaaya Naaavishwaasaaya karhichit Shree maathru Bhakthi uktaaya... " -Scriptural reference. Some youngsters I know read some half-bakes nevertheless inspiring book by some newage faddist and put forth questions and chant everything and even do navaavarna puja. Iam an youngsetr myself and take pity on them because I too suffered heavily the pangs of Kundalini shakthi burning in my spine for months and only my Gurunatha saved me. I just went ahead and did boldly some mantra in Mantra Mahaarnava with arrogane that I knew sanskrit and that I had the will power! Before Parabrahmam I should bow my head low. The stalk which bows low has the maximum grain! Sincere words are never sweet Sweet words are never sincere! Though I try to be sweet and sincere all times at times I have to be bitter and convey the truth.Iam sorry for disappointing you here a bit. I do not want to be sweet and say " Go ahead my friend do things without initiation " .It just takes one line to say that and finish my posting. I can care aught what you suffer thereafter. But I do care about you my friend as you too are my brother and a child of Amba.We all are children of Rajarajeshwari Devi and we should cooperate with Her scheme of things. Also, I do appreciate your thirst for Amba and Srividya knowledge.This is remarkable. Maybe joining this group and knowing this simple fact that you have to get intiation to do Sahasranama and Trishati is a play of Amba.Look! how She cares for you! I just entreat you to get initiation from a good Srividya adept who will be happy to give you initiation seeing your sincerity and devotion toward Amba and then you can proceed in your divine path. I hope the issue is settled now? Cheers, Shreeram Balijepalli Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73> wrote: > > Dear Shreeramji, > > Thanks for the mail. I have recently recited Lalita Trishati Nama > Stotra on Fridays, as per the advise of a Jyothisa Guru. He is a > Bhuvaneshwari worshiper too. I was not even heard of this Stotra > before. Since I was not aware of the formalities of Initiation, I > have asked another Devi Bhakta on the same and he said, if some > spiritual person is saying you to do this and you have it in mind, > it means Devi herself wanted you to chant this and guiding you > through someone else. He also stated that normally senior sadhakas > only chant this stotra. As per this, I have started reciting. > > Now please tell me your views on this. > > Regards, > Kannan > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " para_anuloma " > <para_anuloma> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannanji, > > > > Yes,it does require initiation. > > > > Lalitha Sahasranama > > Trishati and Khadgamala require initiation. > > > > Infact according to some Trishati is even more powerful for three > > reasons > > > > 1. It has emnated from the divine lips of Paraamba Shree > > Rajarajeshwari Herself > > > > 2. It is an explantion to the panchadasi--if you peruse Trishati > you > > will find that each stanza starts with one syllable of the > > panchadasi. Thus the panchadasi Tatwa is imbibed by the aspirant. > > Which makes it all the more necessary for the aspirant to get > > intiation for Trishati from his Guru. > > > > 3. Rishi Agasthya was at the feet of Hayagreeva Bhagavan for many > > years before the hesitant Hayamukha Lord gave the trishati to the > > devoted Rishi.This makes it even more worthwhile to practice and > > chant.This litany was granted permission by Paradevata to be > chanted > > by Agasthya and other Kaliyuga Manavas with due corrections > however > > (The trishati we have is not the original yogic one but still it > is > > of high power). > > > > Please see my old postings where I mentioned all these. > > > > But you may do the 25 names of the Rajarajeshwari for high power > > without initiation. I have posted an article by the > > name 'panchavimshati Devi Naamaani' please peruse it for the > twenty > > five names. > > > > Hope this helps... > > > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " kankan_73 " > > <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shreeramji, > > > > > > Please let me know whether Initiation is required for chanting > > Lalitha > > > Trishati Nama Stothra. > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Dear Shreeramji, Many thanks for your detailed mail and time spent for me. As you said, yes, I feel sad and disappointed (tears in my eyes) that I cannot chant the stotra in my present state. I also take it as a warning from Devi through you as She loves me. It is a surprise for me that you are saying Lalitha Sahasranama also requires initiation. I have seen so many people reciting this for years without initiation or even not knowing about what initiation is. My wife too chants the Sahasranama for the last one year (without looking for any results or wishes) . In a nearby temple at our place on every full moon day there is Sahasranama Japa, participating so many girls and ladies. I will go through all your earlier posts and get some more knowledge on the subject. Ofcourse joining the group is a step forward in my spiritual path. Regards, Kannan Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " para_anuloma " <para_anuloma> wrote: > > Dear Kannanji, > > I waa not proffering my views when I said thus in my earlier > posting. It was not my personal view. I would be glad to give > everything to everyone. Else if I was so secretive I would not have > created this group and spend my time here. I would rather do more > hours of my sadhana and other work.I love Amba and also Her devotees. > > There are some points to note here: > > 1. A Bhuvaneshwari worshipper may or may not be a Srividya Upasaka > and might not know the seriousness of it.Just because one is a > shaktha or a devi bhaktha one cannot be assumed that he will know > wverything about all paths. In today's world of compromises > everything is comprised so goodness too is compromised as part of > Parabrahmic play of karma.To ascribe everything to Divine mother is > great but convinient ascribing of only a few things and the rest to > yourself seems to bespeak of hypocrisy. If you have totally > surrended to Her that is ok. He said thus to not hurt your > enthusiasm for reciting the litany. > > 2. Jyothisha Guru maybe a Guru in Astrology and that if he teaches > you that science spiritually.He is not your Srividya Guru much less > your Srividya Sad Guru! I can understand if someone has initiated > you into Panchadasi even if he is not a srividya upasaka perse and > then asking you to do Trishati(even this is not correct) but > an 'Jyotisha Guru' is not a Srividya Guru unless he is doing > Srividya Upasana side by side and is your Srividya Upasana Guru and > has initiated you into Panchadasi and other formalities and then > given you permission to do Trishati > > 3.If Devi wanted you to chant this litany and has guided through > some person--You may as well take that Devi s now warning through me > the ill effects of chanting without initiation and urging you to > take initiation before you chant blissfully the sacred litany. > > Also, I never said take it from my Guru. I always say take it from a > comptenet Srividya adept in all my postings and only when rarely > members ask me about my Guru I direct them to the first file in our > Group for contact information.My Gurunatha has asked me to refrain > from too much of advertisement for Him.But nevertheless I do tell > and inform sincere aspirants who want to get deeksha from Him. > > You might fruitfully seek a Srividya Upasaka and get intiiation from > him for Srividya and then chant the Trishati with glee.This would be > the right course and a safe one too. > > Also, some conditions are laid down in Sahasranama for giving to a > person the litany(so also the trishati) > > It should not be given to a 1.Fool(spiritual fool,nothing to do with > education or intelligence) > > 2.Athiest or a non-believer > > 3.Evil person > > Should be given to person with immense faith in Divine mother. > > 'Na shatayaa na Dushtaaya Naaavishwaasaaya karhichit Shree maathru > Bhakthi uktaaya... " -Scriptural reference. > > Some youngsters I know read some half-bakes nevertheless inspiring > book by some newage faddist and put forth questions and chant > everything and even do navaavarna puja. Iam an youngsetr myself and > take pity on them because I too suffered heavily the pangs of > Kundalini shakthi burning in my spine for months and only my > Gurunatha saved me. I just went ahead and did boldly some mantra in > Mantra Mahaarnava with arrogane that I knew sanskrit and that I had > the will power! Before Parabrahmam I should bow my head low. > > The stalk which bows low has the maximum grain! > > Sincere words are never sweet > Sweet words are never sincere! > > Though I try to be sweet and sincere all times at times I have to be > bitter and convey the truth.Iam sorry for disappointing you here a bit. I do not want to be sweet and say " Go ahead my friend do things without initiation " .It just takes one line to say that and finish my posting. I can care aught what you suffer thereafter. But I do care about you my friend as you too are my brother and a child of Amba.We all are children of Rajarajeshwari Devi and we should cooperate with Her scheme of things. > > Also, I do appreciate your thirst for Amba and Srividya knowledge.This is remarkable. Maybe joining this group and knowing this simple fact that you have to get intiation to do Sahasranama and Trishati is a play of Amba.Look! how She cares for you! > > I just entreat you to get initiation from a good Srividya adept who > will be happy to give you initiation seeing your sincerity and > devotion toward Amba and then you can proceed in your divine path. > > I hope the issue is settled now? > > Cheers, > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " kankan_73 " > <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > Dear Shreeramji, > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have recently recited Lalita Trishati Nama > > Stotra on Fridays, as per the advise of a Jyothisa Guru. He is a > > Bhuvaneshwari worshiper too. I was not even heard of this Stotra > > before. Since I was not aware of the formalities of Initiation, I > > have asked another Devi Bhakta on the same and he said, if some > > spiritual person is saying you to do this and you have it in mind, > > it means Devi herself wanted you to chant this and guiding you > > through someone else. He also stated that normally senior sadhakas > > only chant this stotra. As per this, I have started reciting. > > > > Now please tell me your views on this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " para_anuloma " > > <para_anuloma> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kannanji, > > > > > > Yes,it does require initiation. > > > > > > Lalitha Sahasranama > > > Trishati and Khadgamala require initiation. > > > > > > Infact according to some Trishati is even more powerful for > three > > > reasons > > > > > > 1. It has emnated from the divine lips of Paraamba Shree > > > Rajarajeshwari Herself > > > > > > 2. It is an explantion to the panchadasi--if you peruse Trishati > > you > > > will find that each stanza starts with one syllable of the > > > panchadasi. Thus the panchadasi Tatwa is imbibed by the > aspirant. > > > Which makes it all the more necessary for the aspirant to get > > > intiation for Trishati from his Guru. > > > > > > 3. Rishi Agasthya was at the feet of Hayagreeva Bhagavan for > many > > > years before the hesitant Hayamukha Lord gave the trishati to > the > > > devoted Rishi.This makes it even more worthwhile to practice and > > > chant.This litany was granted permission by Paradevata to be > > chanted > > > by Agasthya and other Kaliyuga Manavas with due corrections > > however > > > (The trishati we have is not the original yogic one but still it > > is > > > of high power). > > > > > > Please see my old postings where I mentioned all these. > > > > > > But you may do the 25 names of the Rajarajeshwari for high power > > > without initiation. I have posted an article by the > > > name 'panchavimshati Devi Naamaani' please peruse it for the > > twenty > > > five names. > > > > > > Hope this helps... > > > > > > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " kankan_73 " > > > <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shreeramji, > > > > > > > > Please let me know whether Initiation is required for chanting > > > Lalitha > > > > Trishati Nama Stothra. > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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