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Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " SR.Raj kumar "

<srirajarajeswari9> wrote:

>

> Dear Shreeram,

>

> Whilst the deer skins are handed over to the rishis, then it can

also be interpreted that the rishis are also incuring a sin by

accepting the skin of animals. They could have advised the hunters

in not killing the deer. So they also become a media for the hunters

to commit a sin. The hunters would also be killing the deers with a

view to handing over the skin to the rishis, probably.

 

RISHIS INCUR SIN ONLY IF THEY ENCOURAGE THE KILLING OF DEER BY THE

HUNTERS FOR THEIR MEDITATION.THE GIVING OF THE DEER SKINS BY HUNTERS

THEN(IAM TALKING ABOUT TRETA AND KRITA YUGA PERIODS AND MAYBE EVEN

DWAPARA YUGA NOT KALIYUGA WHERE EVERY ACT SEEMS TO BE TAINTED WITH

SELFISHNESS)IS AN ACT OF SELFLESS LOVE WHEN THE HUNTER CHANCED TO

SEE A RISHI.TO SEE A RISHI IS NOT EASY.MANY OF THIS THINK ALL ARE

RISHIS.NO NOT ALL ARE RISHIS. THERE IS A HEIRARCHY TOO IN

SPIRITUALITY.MANY ARE YOGIS SOME ARE SIDDHAS FEW ARE MUNIS(VALMIKI

MUNI--NOT VALIMIKI MAHARISHI!) AND VERY VERY FEW ARE RISHIS AND

THERE ARE 7/8 BRAHMA RISHIS.SO SEEING A RISHIS WILL CHANGE THE

HUNTER'S TAMASIC AURA AND WILL YIELD IN AN ALTRUISTIC ACT. HE JUST

GIVES BECAYUSE HE SIMPLY HAS TO GIVE AND FEEL THE LOVE AND

SPIRITUALITY OF THE RISHI.ALSO THE HUNTERS ALSO KNOW THE RARITY OF

SEEING A RISHI AND TILL NOW IN PURANAS ONLY VERY FEW INCIDENTS

WHICH CAN BE COUNTED IN HANDS ARE THERE OF AN ORDINARY HUMANBEING

MEETING A RISHI.NOWADAYS IT HAS BECOME A FASHION TO CALL ALL

AVATARS,MAHARISHIS AND RISHIS.

 

NEXTLY,RISHIS KNOW VERY EASY HOW TO REMOVE THE SIN,IF AT ALL THERE

HAS BEEN AN UNINTENTIONAL OVERSIGHT.THEY ARE UPASAKAS OF AGNI AND

SURYA.

 

''AGNIM ADITYAM CHA DAHYAMANA PRAVARANTHI THE' RISHEENAAM SARVA

PAAPEBHYAHA''.THE MYSTIC QUALITY OF FIRE AND SUN IS THUS INVOKED FOR

THIS.

 

IT IS LIKE ADUMBRATING EINSTEIN 'LOOK HE HAS COMMITED A GRAMMATICAL

MISTAKE WHILE WORKING OUT EQUATIONS ON THE ROUGH PAPER'-IT IS

OUTRIGHT SILLY BECAUSE WHEN THE FINAL PRESENTATION IS TO BE MADE

BEFORE SAY THE NOBLE COMMITTEE AN EINSTEIN WILL GO THROUGH THE

RIGOURS OF ENGLISH AND SYNTAX.MAYBE EVEN EINSTEIN MIGHT DO A MISTAKE

BUT THE RISHIS TAKE CARE OF EVERY SMALL THING AND THAT IS WHY THEY

ARE THERE ON THE TOP OF SPIRITUALITY.DON'T YOU THINK THAT WHEN WE

HAVE CONSIDERED THIS WILL NOT THE RISHIS WHO KNOW BETTER AND WHO ARE

CONSTANTLY IN COMMUNE WITH THE DIVINITY INSIDE THEM NOT KNOW THIS?

 

ALSO THE RISHI WILL TELL THEM THAT 'JEEVA HIMSA'(TORTURE OF ANIMALS

TO ANY KIND) IS BAD BUT NEVERTHELESS ACCEPT HIS TOKEN OF GIFT AS IT

HAS COME FROM LOVE.

 

TO BE FASTIDIOUS AND ORTHODOX IS ONETHING BUT TO RECOGNIZE THE LOVE

AND SPIRITUAL SPARK IN ALL IS ANOTHER THING...A THING WHICH COMES IN

THE PERVIEW OF GOD...IN THE PERVIEW OF LOVE.

>

> Now to talk of sasya bhojanam and mamsa bhojanam. Is it right on

part of the hunters to kill and eat mamsa, when sasya bhojanam is

available? Mamsa bhojanam is got only after killing. so they also

get the sins. Dont tell me that the animal which is killed gets

moksha and hence this act. Give me more information.

 

I NEVER SAID IT IS RIGHT FOR THE HUNTERS TO KILL THE ANIMAL AND

PARTAKE IT'S MEAT.ALL THESE TENDENCIES DEVELOP DUE TO TAMASIC

QUALITIES AND RAJASIC INTERPLAYS.HUNTERS ARE BORN IN THE WILD TO

ORDINARY PARENTS WHO TELL THEM TO HUNT AND FEED THEMSELVES.

 

I DID NOT TELL THAT AN ANIMAL GETTING KILLED IN THE HANDS OF A

HUNTER GETS MOKSHA. PLEASE READ THE POSTING I GAVE CAREFULLY. TO

REACT TO ONE WORD WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE FULL CLUSTER OF THOUGHTS

IS TO COMMIT A CARDINAL SIN IN SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING.

 

I SAID THE DEER SEEING THE AURA OF A RISHI(DO NOT FORGET THAT RISHIS

CAN EVEN COMMUNICVATE WITH DEERS AND KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS AND

SUFFERINGS) MAY COME(I USE MAY BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT ALSO,PLEASE DO

NOT QUESTION ME AGAIN WHETHER ALL DEERS COME LIKE THIS WHEN SEEING A

RISHI!) AND REQUEST THE RISHI TO TAKE IT'S LIFE AND USE IT'S

SKIN.THIS TRANSACTION IS ALSO OUT OF LOVE. ALSO THE RISHI WILL NOT

CUT THE ANIMAL WITH A KNIFE OR A WEAPON.HE JUST WILL SAY THATHASTHU

MOVED BY IT'S LOVE AND THE DEER DROPS DEAD.

 

NOW YOU MAY ASK IF THE RISHI IS SO POWERFUL WHY SHOULD HE USE DEER

SKIN ATALL. TRU MANY RISHIS DO NOT MEDITATE ON EARTH AS IT IS A

GREAT SUCKING FORCE.THEY LEVITATE AND MEDITATE IN THE AIR AS IT

PURER THAN THE EARTH ELEMENT AND MORE RARER UNLIKE THE DENSER EARTH

ELEMENT.DEER SKINS ARE USED FOR THEIR DISCIPLES OR FOR SOME SPECIAL

PARIKIRYAS.

>

> So far my understanding is Tiger skin is the best and next comes

deer skin and third is Dharba. Plz throw more light.

>

 

TIGER SKIN IS USED FOR TANTRIC MEDITATION AND MORE POWEFUL

MEDITATIONS.IT WILL MAKE A PERSON SLOWLY DEVELOP VAIRAAGYA AND THUS

MANY HOUSEHOLDERS IN SOUTHINDIA ATLEAST, FEAR THE USANCE OF SUCH A

SKIN.WHITE TIGER SKIN IS USED FOR HIGH PARIKRIYAS.

 

DEER SKIN IS USED FOR SAATVIC AND VAIDEEKI KARMAS.

 

DHARBHA IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.IT IS SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED WITH

SKINS.IT SHOULD BE PLACED UNDERNEATH EVERYTHING BE IT DEER OR TIGER

SKIN AND ONE SHOULD NOT SIT ON ANIMAL SKINS JUST LIKE THAT.

 

 

ALSO ONE DOES NOT SIT ON DHARBA ASANA UNLESS ONE IS A SANYASI

WITHOUT A WHITE CLOTH ON IT.IT IS USED FOR SANDHYAVANADANA AND OTHER

VAIDEEKI KARMAS

 

> Also it is stated not to sleep on the floor lest the energy

shall be absorbed by the earth and to meditate in the mind as

Kaladevan draws energy from our meditation. We also know of some

saints using wooden sandals for walking. Even meditation needs an

asan. Can you throw some light on this?

 

FOR SOME TANTRIC SADHANAS SLEEPING ON BARE FLOOR IS REQUIRED.THERE

ARE NO HARD AND FAST RULES ANYWHERE.MANY ARE BROKEN FOR MANY

PURPOSES.YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE OR ACCUSE ANYONE BECAUSE THEY ARE

DOING THUS.

 

OFCOURSE MEDITATING ON BARE GROUND IS NOT ADVICED AS YOU SAID.

 

MEDITATION REQUIRES AN ASAN BUT MANY THINGS IT IS AN EXTERNAL ONE.

IT IS ACTUALLY THE INTERNALISATION OF THE DEITY IN THE MIND OR HEART

AND MADE TO SIT IN THE MENTAL ASAN THERE.

 

HATHA YOGINS SIT IN SPECIFIC ASANAS TO ACCELERATE THE SPIRITUAL

PROGRESS.

 

FOR EXAMPLE DOING PANCHADASI IN MAYUR ASANA IS SAID TO ACCELERATE

IT'S POWER IT MANY FOLD.

 

>

> Wooden planks are used while doing pooja. In Tamil/Malayalam it

is called Palaka. We have Ama Palaka (Tortoise shaped wooden

planks). While they say that Tortoise should not be kept in home,

how can this be justified for pooja purposes?

 

TORTOISE IS CONSIDERED THE AVATAR OF VISHNU KACCHAPA AVATAR.VISHNU

HAS SAVED THE EARTH FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE COSMIC OCEAN WHEN A DEVIL

TOOK IT THERE.THIS IS UNDERSTOOD ESOTERICALLY AS THE MULADHARA

CHAKRIC ENERGY GOING DOWN AND THE 'VISHNU' WHO STAYS IN SWADHISTHANA

AND ALSO SOMETIMES DEPICTED IN KUNDALINI SHASTRA IN MANIPURA(THOUGH

BRAHMA IS SHOWN IN SOME TEXTS) BRINGS YOUR 'WORLD' OUT OF THE DARK

COSMIC OCEAN.TO SYMBOLISE THIS ASPECT SOME SAUCHA MANTRAS ARE DONE

ON A TORTOISE ASANA.

 

PALAKA IS CALLED THUS IN ALL THE FOUR SOUTHINDIAN LANGUAGES.

 

IN TAMIL AND MALAYALAM IT IS CALLED 'PALAGAI'

 

IN TELUGU AND KANNADA IT IS CALLED 'PALAKA'

 

SEE AN OLD POSTING OF MINE IN THIS CONNEXION REGARDING PALAKA IN AN

EXPLANATION ASKED BY ONE MEMBER REGARDING 'PANCHA PRETHA MANCHAADI

SHAAYINI'(LALITHA SAHASRANAMA NAME).

 

TORTOISE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT AS PER VAASTHU IT IS SAID IN

TAMILNADU.TAMILS CONSIDER KEEPING A TORTOISE IN THE HOUSE AS

INAUSPICIOUS AS IT IS SAID TO RETARD THE PROGRESS OF THE HOUSE.

BUT AS PER FENGSHUI IT CAN BE PLACED.

 

BUT AMA PALAGAI('AAMAI' IN TAMIL MEANS TORTOISE) IS DIFFERENT. THAT

IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

 

AS I SAID BEFORE MANY RULES ARE THERE TO BE BROKEN.BUT FIRST KNOW

ALL OF THEM THOUROUGHLY AND DO THE FOLLOWING 3 LITMUS TESTS

 

1. IS IT APPLICABLE IN KALIYUGA

 

2. IS IT A MERE SUPERSTITION OR SOME CASTEIST RIGMAROLE OR DOES IT

HAVE A PARANORMAL OR A LOGICAL REASON TO IT?

 

3. IT IS IN DOING WITH MY KARMA AND CONCEPT OF JEEVA KARUNYA OF ALL

KIND

 

ELSE,FIND AN ALTERNATIVE WAY,SHASTRAS ARE BENEVOLENT.THEY DO SHOW

REMEDIES AND PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER SHAASHTRAS AS SOME STRICT FATHER

WHO DOES SPARE THE ROD!

 

THEY DO SPARE THE ROD MANY TIMES!

 

AHAM DEVIPUTROSMI!

 

SHREERAM BALIJEPALLI

 

P.S. BIG FONTS HAVE BEEN USED TO DIFFERENTIATE THE SMALL FONTS YOU

HAVE USED.PLEASE DO NOT MISCONSTRUE THIS AS 'SHOUTING' MY ANSWER.

 

 

>

> Ambal Thunai

>

>

>

> para_anuloma <para_anuloma> wrote:

> Dear Rajkumar Avargale,

>

> Though it is digressing a bit away from

the

> main forum discussions I will answer the question.It can be

answered

> even by you if you think both literally and laterally.

>

> Killing of animals is sin be it a Tiger or a Deer.

>

> But Bhagavad Geetha has Krishna saying that deer skin is to be

used

> for meditation.

>

> In olden days hunters used to kill deers for meat and their

> consumption. The number of people(wordl population) was less when

> compared to what it is now.

>

> The demand for deer skin was negligible when compared to what it

is

> now.The deers were thus killed mainly for consumption by

spiritually

> unevolved hunters.These hunters used to give the skins to rishis

to

> be used for their meditation purposes out of love and affection

and

> not for money.

>

> Also many rishis like Pippalaada used to be very ahimsic and used

to

> take the dry skin of a dead deer which died due to natural death

> (which is no sin).

>

> Deer skin does send good vibrations when done this way. Sometimes

in

> rare cases as with Brahma rishis the deer themselves come in the

> Rishis aura and give up their lives(this sounds ridiculous to

> unevolved people) and beseech the rishi to use their skins and

thus

> attain merit.

>

> Deers which have died a violent death thus mark their curses as a

> taint on the skin and it will interfere with meditation. But the

> same skin if blessed by a spiritual person absorbs the curses and

> relases the deer atma to a higher plane.

>

> These are subtle things beyond the comprehension of ordinary folks

> and thus I never ask anyone to sit on a deer mat. Lest they go and

> kill some innocent deer in their pursuit of moksha.

>

> Also these days hunters(if at all they exist as a tribe) kill for

> consumption. Kaliyuga is such that they kill for profit.

>

> Deers and Tigers are also endangered animals and rampant killing

for

> spirituality will incur heavy karma from God and the race for

human

> beings.

>

> I use a dharbaasana and a white cloth placed on that.

>

> Using deer skin for brahma mudichu during upanayanam is just

> symbolic of renunciation.But here the above points are valid.

>

> The extensity of karma is also to be seen.

>

> Buddhism has three hand law

>

> 1. The hand that kills

> 2. The hand that sells

> 3.The hand that consumes

>

> The last hand gets the least karma eventhough one may argue that

he

> is the demand. If he is the 'demand' wher did the spiritual

> intelligence of the person who killed and sold go? Thus the karma

is

> heavy upon the actual killer and the actual seller.Ofcourse the

one

> who consumes has least karma.

>

> Some deerskins are got from forefathers and is a legacy from Gurus

> who have done sadhana on it.That will have heavy mantric

vibrations

> and augurs positive for spirituality of the person.Such a deer

skin

> is not a sinful item.

>

> Spiritual equations move solely by Karmic equations not by Math!

>

> May Paramamvyoman be the greater equation for you and for me!

>

> Yours Mathematically,

>

> Shreeram

>

> Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " SR.Raj kumar "

> <srirajarajeswari9> wrote:

> >

> > killing of animals is a sin. even removing the skin of dead

> animals is also not correct. . Then how is it that skins of tiger

> and deer are used for asan? but then for upanayanam deer skin is

> tied at the brahma mudichu. what is the logic behind this?

> >

> > Group Owner <para_anuloma> wrote: Dear Rajam ji,

> >

> > Jayosthu Paraamba!

> >

> >

> >

> > Iam happy to note that you are a

Srividya

> initiate. You have asked me three questions. Iam happy to help you

> out here but always ask your Gurudeva first before asking others.

> >

> >

> >

> > Srividya Sampradaya is Gurubaddha. It

> follows what a Guru initiates,teaches,practices and says.

> >

> > I also thankyou for giving me

permission

> to post my answer toyour personal query as an article of Srividya

> interest in our group.Long time since I gave a good posting on

> Srividya.I seek your continued support and patronage for our

group.

> Also please pay my respects and regards to your Guru Shree

> Gnanadeshikaananda ji.Please do share his pearls of wisdom for the

> benfit of all group members.

> >

> > Your query 1.

> >

> > How should I worship Srichakra? Should I do any Paarayana

apart

> from the normal puja?

> >

> > My answer: PLEASE FOLLOW WHATEVER YOUR GURUNATHA HAS ADVICED

YOU.

> >

> > The above answer alone is enough but since you will not be

happy

> with it. I will proffer some more.

> >

> > Generally a Srividya Initiate has to do three basic things

(this

> is as per my Gurunatha's advice and also as per Vaagdevi's

> instructions)

> >

> >

> > Gold plated Mahameru-Koorma Prasthara

> >

> > Mahameru

> >

> > 1. Perform the Srichakra/Mahameru puja-In the manner

prescribed

> by your tradition or GuruMarga(for example, we follow the

Guhananda

> Mandali Paddhathi for Avarana Puja (I have taken the permission of

> my Guru before revealing this to all)). If your Guru has not given

> you permission for Avarana Puja which requires strict discipline

> then do what ever archana or puja modology your Guru has

prescribed.

> >

> >

> >

> > This beautiful Rudraksha dress is developed using

> references from ShivPurana on wearing different number of

Rudraksha

> on different parts of the body to attain Rudrahood .

> >

> > This dress is made of

> > 3 strands of 120 Rudraksha each , to be worn across the chest

as

> Yagyopaveet .

> > One strand of 108 Rudraksha for chest

> > 11 Rudraksha each on both wrists and arms

> > 6 beads on each ear

> > 5 Rudraksha on Naval

> > 32 Rudraksha on Throat

> > 550 Rudraksha beads on Head

> > Total - 1111 Rudraksha

> > All Beads used are five faced of high grade Nepalese

> variety . The beads are strung so that the mouth of the beads is

> joined with their mouth and rear part is joined with their rear

> part in red thread with knots between each bead.

> >

> >

> > 2. Meditate daily prescribed number of rounds of the Srividya

> mantra initiated. Here too Acharya vaak is to be followed(by

> acahraya I mean srividya Guru not Shankaracharya). If your Guru

> says " Do Panchadasi for eleven rounds " Then you have to do it.Even

> when Iam in Canada I make it a point to telephone Him and consult

> Him before I undertake any sadhana.If he says " No " ...that is my

veda!

> >

> >

> > (My guru Shree Rajagopala Anandanatha popularly known as

> Nanganallur Swami, if the photo does not open please see the

second

> photo album in our group and have his holy darshan)

> >

> > But if your Guru has not given any explicit instructions for

> the same then you may wish to do 11 rounds of the holy mantra if

> time permits.Atleast do one round of it daily.This has to be done

> with Rishyaadi,Kara,anga,varna,tatwa,matruka,shodha,etc nyasas as

> prescribed by your preceptor. You have asked me to initiate you

into

> nyasa. I cannot do that for you as you have to approach your Guru

as

> even nyaasas also require initiation for it to fructify.No use

doing

> it from books or learning it from others.

> >

> > Guru Sarvam Guru Shreshtam! for Srividya Tantra--Remember this

> much and spirituslity will augur well for you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Lalithambika in Kalasha(sacred pot)

> >

> > 3. Lalitha Sahasranama chanting--Do this atleast in one

sandhya

> preferably in the morning time(This has been alluded to in the

> Sahasranama Phalashruthi itself).If you know the mudras for this

do

> it and again I repeat like an untiring parrot that this too has to

> be first ordained by your Guru.You may however just get his

> permission for this and then refer a Mudra Nighantu for the same.

> >

> >

> >

> > Apart from the above whatever you do is an extra

> >

> > You may do

> >

> > Mantra Maatrhukaa Stavam

> > Some stotra from Saubhagya Tantra

> > Trishati

> > Ashtottaram

> > Khadgamala

> > Rashmimala(after getting up from the bed).

> > Any other Paarayana Vidhi which your Gurunatha has adviced for

> your pertinent case.

> >

> > I leave all these upto you.Here too please talk with your

> Gurunatha and consult him before you do anything.If he says ok,

> surge ahead! Do not dilly-dally.

> >

> > Your second query:

> >

> >

> >

> > Why at all Navavarna Puja if antar puja can be done?

> >

> > My Reply:

> >

> > If Bahya Puja is purely external then it is the lowest

form.But

> if done with the true consciousness it can bring the greatest

> possible completeness to the adoration by allowing the body and

the

> most external consciousness share in the spirit and act of worship.

> >

> >

> >

> > Worship is done to the Goddess in the Sri Chakra-Srichakra

> Nayaki-Shree Rajarajeshwari Devi,the spot in which all the rays of

> the Great radiance are focussed. There develops an intimate

> relationship betwen the worshipper and Srichakra,as the worship

> proceeds and the worshipper begins to feel this emblem of the

great

> Goddess as a part of himself.He looks to the Chakra for everything

> and always gets the needed response,guiding him through the

> labyrinths of his sadhanic endevours.

> >

> > Navaavarna Puja is a systematic worship of the deities

situated

> in the nine chakras of Srichakra.

> >

> > When the great Goddess Rajarajeshwari Devi transmits Herself

in

> the universe She has created this transmission taking two forms- a

> stepping up,padavikshepa and a gradual rise -Kramodaya.I know all

> these are technical, i refrain from giving technical srividya

terms

> much for the lack of familiarity with regards to most members but

> since you are in the path I do give some for better understanding.

> >

> >

> >

> > The former transmission as the name suggests is evident in the

> creation of Gods and Goddesses who are in various steps in the

> course of evolution and occupy graded positions in the heirarchy

of

> the universal scheme.While the later transmission is typal of

graded

> evolution found in rest of the beings that are created and who

> actively take part in evolution.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhairava Yamala Tantra says

> >

> >

> >

> > 'Divine mother conjoined with Kameshwara is stationed in the

> Bindu in the form of great effulgence and from Her body emnate

> thousands,lakhs,crores and myriads of rays whic are various gods

> andgoddesses who pervade the whole universe.'

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > This then is the scriptural reference to the Greatness of

> Rajarajeshwari Devi and Srichakra.

> >

> > If you look at the Srichakra you find that there is the Bindu

in

> the centre and it is surrounded by 8 chakras.

> >

> >

> >

> > One has to pass through a host of Parivaara Devatas to get a

> glimpse of the Pradhana Devata in the Bindu.

> >

> > The nine chakras are thus called nine sheaths(koshas),covering

> the supreme truth,nine planes through which one has to traverse to

> reach the summit,nine steps in the staircase of existence.

> >

> >

> >

> > As one climbs from chakra to chakra,greater and greater vistas

> are opened out before one.Finally when one nears the

summit,thinking

> everything is lost,all is gained with grand vision of the Supreme

> Goddess Rajarajeshwari in all her glorious splendour in the Bindu

> sthana.

> >

> > This is what the Tantra describes as 'Nidhane Dhanam'-wealth

at

> the point of termination. Not many understand this perfectly as

they

> have mostly bookish erudition.

> >

> > It should be noted that these steps,padaani,stations

dhaamaani,

> or plateaus are there in one's own being and there is a close

> correspondence betwen the levels in one's own being and the levels

> in Sri Chakra.Infact, this is the rationale underlying the worship

> of Nava Avaranas.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Aavarana means an enclosure or a veil(even refers to a petal)

in

> Sanskrit.

> >

> >

> >

> > The nine chakras from Trailokya Mohana to the Sarvaanandamaya

> Chakra are the nine Aavaranas.There are nine enclosures to be

> traversed ,nine veils to be lifted before one could come face to

> face with the Truth.

> >

> >

> >

> > Many kriya yogis think one needs to cut asunder the the three

> knots but the vedic seers and the Tantric adepts are very clever!

> they do not try for such an arduous process. They just ask for the

> three knots to be slackened a bit!

> >

> > uduttam varunam paashamasmadavaadham vi madhyamam shrathaaya !

> >

> > Athaa vayamaaditya vrathe tavaanaagaso aditaye' syaam!

> >

> >

> >

> > The seer of the veda prays to Varuna to slacken the triple

noose

> that is above ,below and in the middle,so that fixed in Varuna's

law

> he may be without blemish for Aditi,the Infinite mother(effulgent

> mother of all).

> >

> >

> >

> > He does not pray for cutting sunder the noose;he only asks for

> the slackening of the knot appropriate to the three places-high

> above,below and middle, Ut Slathya, Ava Slathaya and Vi

Slathaya.To

> get at the whole truth,the vedic seer and the Tantric adepts

affirm

> that it not necessary to destroy partial truths.This I would say

is

> great lateral thinking done by Tantrics of the Srividya marga!

> >

> >

> >

> > If the avarana's have to destroyed there will not be any puja.

> You can do a antar puja as you have reffered the Goddess in Her

> supremity.But this is not easy.

> >

> >

> >

> > The whole truth is to be realised and in the perspective of

such

> realisation,the partial truths have to be perceived.The one great

> Goddess in the Bindu does not negate the many Goddesses in the

> chakra.This has to be understood clearly. Please refer to our

> personal communication regarding Aamnaya krama where I have

repated

> a similar point.

> >

> >

> >

> > In the navarvarna puja,worship is done to the Srichakra,chakra

> by chakra. The worship proceeds from the outer to the inner,from

the

> Bhupura to the Bindu,from the Trailokya Mohana to the

> Sarvaanandamaya Chakra.There is apresiding deity,Yogini(nyasa,puja

> etal) and Mudra Devatas. For example, in the fifth avarana

> puja,worship is done in the outer ten edged figure known as

> Sarvaartha Saadhaka Chakra to the Kulottirna Yoginis like

> Sarvasiddhiprada,Sarvasampatprada,etc and the Sarvonmadini Mudra

> appropriate to this chakra is shown.The fifth avarana puja intends

> that the yoginis are stationed with their mudras and

> siddhis,weapons,shakthi,vehicles andf their retinues.

> > ('samudraaha Sasiddhayaha Saayudhaaha Savaahanaaha

> Saparivaaraaha Sarvopachaaraihi sampoojitaaha santarpitaaha santu')

> >

> >

> >

> > the fifth avarana mantra will be Hsaim....H%^^ & ...H@####( Iam

> refraining from giving the mantra openly,please get it from your

> Deshika) and the presiding deity will be Tripura Sundari.

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> > Each avarana puja is dedicated with devotion to Rajarajeshwari

> devi who treats with motherly love those who take refuge in her

and

> the fulfilment of one's wish prayed for.

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> > Kamakala Vilasa says

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> > 'When this great Goddess Supreme(Rajarajeshwari Devi) evolves

in

> the form of the chakra,the evolutions of the limbs in hr body are

> all the Aavarana deities'

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> > The worship done to each avarana has an effect on the

> corresponding level in the being of the aspirant and a pauja truly

> done always lifts the aspirant towards the supreme consciousness-

> Bliss concentrated as a point in the Bindu. It is common

experience

> that a puja uplifts the spectators as well and each experiences an

> elevation and an elation according to his receptivity.Please watch

> one devotee who does Avaranapuja in Nanganallur Shree Sarvamangala

> Rajarajeshwari devi temple during pournami. He, incidentally is

my

> teacher too who teaches me mudras with the permission of my Swami.

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> > Brahmanda Purana says thus

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> > 'The Goddess Lalitha,she alone knows the gains that come out

of

> the worship of her chakra'

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> > Your third query:

> >

> > How do I maintain my Mahameru?

> >

> > Reply to this too is " Please ask your Guru "

> >

> >

> >

> > One can maintain it thus(I do thus to my golden plated

> panchaloha mahameru energised by swami)

> >

> > Do daily abhisheka with various fragrant unguents(which I keep

> in a special box), and then give cermonial bath and other worship

> modolaties which include worship by flowers and then naivedya.The

> process is lengthy but there are laghu versions of it too.

> >

> > I also undertake a special cleaning to restore the Meru back

to

> it's original brightness. Sometimes when this schedule is broken

it

> makes the sadhaka ill with fever.So be careful.You start

developing

> an intimate connection with your Mahameru.I can reveal only this

> much as you know the value of secrecy in Srividya upasana(please

> refer my old postings on the subject of Secrecy in Srividya

Upasana)

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> >

> > Hope this much satisfies you my dear Srividya Bhratha!

> >

> > Your past questions show that you are highly erudite.So you

may

> express your words more boldly in the group sire.

> > I do not know why you are asking me all these questions when

you

> are so well read and have a great Srividya Guru. But it is my

Apara-

> Bhagya to help you out sir.

> >

> > ''This is the knot that ties together the stars:

> > The two who are one are the secret of all power,

> > The Two who are one are the might and right in things''

> > ---Aurobindo:(Savitri)

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> > Paraamba Priyathaam!

> >

> > Yours yogically,

> >

> > Shreeram Balijepalli

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