JK Clarification

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Dear Manojji, JK used to bash 'religions' not 'religiousness'. There is a subtle difference. He used to hear renderings of sacred texts in song form and even used to hear classical recitals in Veena and vocal. I did not say explicitly that he imparted me the meaning of Lalitha Sahasranama. I think you misconstrued me when I juxtaposed my insight into the meaning with his comment on observer. I said thus in my posting At that time I did not understand what he meant. He used to say "The observer is the observation". Now, with Lalitha Sahasranama in my hands I can say not only is

the observer and the observation one but also the tool for observation is also one with the flow! In other words the meditator, Meditation, Mantra are all Devi. He merely said that 'Observer is the observation'. I did not imply anywhere that he interpreted any verse of Lalitha Sahasranama or that He was a worshipper of Devi. In many ways he was deficient though, I admired Him a lot. His main deficiency was to assume that almost all people cerebrate to his wavelength. Though Iam a nobody to comment on His greatness. Also, he used to dislike religion because it imparted 'irreligiousness'. He was not opposed to religion but neither was he for it.He was always opposed to establishments but in that assay he created his own establishment. Mother Maya does not spare any

child! She is a "Dhyana Dhyaatru Dhyeya Roopini"-(Lalitha Sahasranama). This means that the meditator, meditation and the Mantra used in the meditation are all Devi only. My father's cousin JK(Jiddu Krishnamurthi) a famous philosopher used to tell me this when I was a very small kid in reply to my queries on meditation. Here I meant when I used the words "He used to tell me this.." only figuratively not literally that he used to impart me the Bhashyam of "Dhyana Dhyaathru Dheya roopa". I follow a different path. Some of the hardcore puritanicals of Srividya path might not like me for it. But I think that if one follows anyone one will leave no footprints of Himself in the

sands of time, not that, that shoule be the egotistical endeavour.It is plain against the norms of creativity and to be creative is to be one with God. But onething from JK i do imbibe and that is the essence of His Guru-Bhakthi. He had a secret Guru of which Iam certain and he had written a book when he was very young by the name Al cayone 'At the Feet of the Master'. The book looks very mature for such an age. O! Master of Compassion, come to my rescue and lead me out of this profound darkness to pure light, and to the haven of immortality, and to peaceful enlightenment! I seek the pure enlightenment that few Great Beings have attained. I seek the high Deliverer that will free me from this wheel of birth and death. I seek the Brother that will share with me His divine wisdom; I

seek the Lover that will comfort me; I seek to lay my weary head in the lap of compassion; I seek the Friend that will guide me; I seek to take refuge in the Light. ---The Path-JK Below is an extract of the 'religion-basher's' own experience in His own words. I am God-intoxicated I meditated regularly for about 30 minutes every morning. I could concentrate with ease, and within a few

days I began to see clearly where I had failed and where I was failing. Immediately I set about, consciously, to annihilate the wrong accumulations of past years. Some days later, I felt acute pain at the nape of my neck and I had to cut down my meditation to 15 minutes. The pain, instead of getting better as I had hoped, grew worse. The climax was reached when I could not think, nor was I able to do anything, and was forced to retire to bed. Then I became almost unconscious though I was well aware of what was happening around me. I came to myself at about noon each day. On the first day while I was in that state, I had the most extraordinary experience. There was a man mending the road—that man was myself; the pickaxe he held was myself; the very stone which he was breaking was a part of me; the tender blade of grass was my very being, and the tree beside the man was

myself. I almost could feel and think like the roadmender, and I could feel the wind passing through the tree, and the little ant on the blade of grass. The birds, the dust, and the very noise were a part of me. Just then there was a car passing by; I was the driver, the engine, and the tyres; as the car went further away from me, I was going away from myself. I was in everything, or rather everything was in me, inanimate and animate, the mountain, the worm and all breathing things. All day long I remained in this happy condition. I could not eat anything, and again at about six I began to lose my physical body, and naturally the physical element did what it liked; I was semi-conscious. The morning of the next day was almost the same as the previous day, and I could not tolerate too many people in the room. I could feel them in rather a curious way and their vibrations got on my nerves. That evening at about the same hour of six

I felt worse than ever. I think I was weeping from mere exhaustion and lack of physical control. My head was pretty bad and the top felt as though many needles were being driven in. Eventually I wandered out on the verandah and sat a few moments, exhausted and slightly calmer. I began to come to myself and finally Mr Warrington asked me to go under the pepper tree near the house. There, I sat in the meditation posture. When I had sat for some time, I felt myself going out of my body, and sitting down with the delicate tender leaves of the tree over me. I was facing east. In front of me was my body and over my head I saw the Star, bright and clear. Then I could feel the vibrations of Lord Buddha; I beheld Lord Maitreya and Master K.K. I was so happy, calm and at peace. I could still see my body and I was hovering near it. There was such profound calmness both in the air and within myself, the calmness of the bottom of a deep

unfathomable lake. I felt my physical body, with its mind and emotions, could be ruffled on the surface but nothing could disturb the calmness of my soul. The Presence of the mighty beings was with me for some time and then they were gone. I was supremely happy, for I had seen. Nothing could ever be the same. I drank at the clear and pure waters at the source of the fountain of life and my thirst was appeased. I touched compassion which heals all sorrow and suffering; not for myself, but for the world. I gazed at the mighty beings. Never can I be in darkness; I have seen the glorious and healing light. The fountain of truth has been revealed to me and the darkness dispersed. Love in all its glory has intoxicated my heart. I am God-intoxicated. (From Krishnamurti: The Years of Awakening by Mary Lutyens) ----------- If he was an 'athiest' or an 'agnost' or a 'religion-basher' he would not have mentioned the names of Lord Buddha or Master KK(a saint reffered to in the Theosophy circles).He was against rituals because he felt that the people concentrated more on the rituals than the purpose behind those rituals. Infact he used to bow down every day to the four directions to some 'unseen forces', was this not a ritual? Why bow down when the respect is there in the heart? He wanted to drive in the point 'Sabbath was made for man not man for Sabbath'. Religion is one thing whereas religiousness is yet another thing. Hope the 'light' is seen, forgive me if I have confused you in the posting... Yours yogically, Shreeram Balijepalli

manoj_menon <ammademon wrote: Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , Group Ownerwrote:>> Dear G.Subramaniamji and others,>> Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevata!> She is a "Dhyana Dhyaatru Dhyeya Roopini"-(Lalitha Sahasranama).This means that the meditator, meditation and the Mantra used in themeditation are all Devi only. My father's cousin JK(JidduKrishnamurthi) a famous philosopher used to tell me this when I was avery small kid in reply to my queries on meditation.Hi Shreeramji,I know you requested group only, not inbox. But this is not aquestion, hence I sent it to your inbox.Wow! Jiddu Krishnamurti was your uncle - no wonder you are so prolific!One thing

I did not understand because I have read a few books writtenby Jiddu and lots of articles about him.He used to bash all religion-worshippers publicly saying that religionis all bogus. Yet you attribute the verse from the Lalita Saharanamaas being his explanation to you once.My impression was that as a Jnana Yogi (I guess he did not like thatword also), he was not particularly fond of anything to do with ritualworship or rituals in mysticism.The apparent paradox mystifies me.... maybe you have an insight on this.You need not bother to write back asap, as this is not urgent(compared to the many questions the others are asking you). But doreply eventually.Jai Ma!

 

 

 

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