More than knowledge

[Guest guest]

Dear fellow members,

From knowlege it is clear that we are beyond

body. How to experience this? How to experience our true identity? How

can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways to experience

this. Do mail them.

 

Regards,

Moorthy

[Guest guest]

Dear Moorthyji,

 

I was busy the last few days with my exmas and will be so till

may10th but I found sometime for this query.

 

You said " From knowledge it is clear that we are beyond body "

 

Well, this is not the correct approach. It should not come from

knowledge but from yout inner atma. You inner atmic experience

should vouchsafe such a thing. Knowledge is a by-product. If there

is a vikasiatwa of your atma then knowledge is a by-product, you can

create your own veda, your own knowledge.

 

Basing your conclusions from other people's experience is an inept

way to approcah God or self.

 

 

We are both our body and beyond and not just beyond our body. Body

is the tmeple of God. Here God refers to the torch of atma in you.

 

Ekam Sat vipraha bahuda vadanthi --THE TRUTH IS ONE BUT WISE MEN

SPEAK DIFFERENTLY.

 

This is because " wise men " have different approcahes to God and

hence they talk of their routes.

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Your second sentence " How to experience this? "

 

Well, your question itself contains the answer. The keyword

is " experience " God is basically your experience and hence you must

seek proactively ways to first satisfy the hunger of your mind.

 

Mind is the axe which seperates/ sunders the heart from the soul-the

atma. Atma does not need a confirmation a knowledge base. These are

mere crutches.

 

First 'satisfy' the mind.

 

Now, the funny part is mind cannot be satisfied completely. If one

answres one question, then another question props up from the first

answer and so on.

 

This is the illusory effect of mind. Mana maya is very strong and

hence when I use the word " satisfy " . I use it etymologically. Satify

comes from the word " satiate " . Satiate means fill. So fill your mind

till it gets exhausted and then cries out for real knowledge for the

real experience for the real satori.

 

Then seek out ways after this satiation process is fulfilled.This

breaks the axe it can no more cut your heart and soul. It does not

raise questions anymore and there are more answers. There will form

a link whereby there is a blossoming in your heart.

 

May this eternal cherryflower blossom.

 

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How to experience the true identity? How can a layman experience it?

 

Firstly let me tell you that in spirituality there is no layman and

a highman! All are equal before the eyes of God. Oneday Moksha or

salvation is definite for all. There need not be a mad rush for

that. It is foolish. You waste a lifetime rushing behind a utopian

thing.

 

Now, there are yogis,siddhas,munis and rishis who are definitely

higher than us. But it is all aquestion of time.

 

Just meditate upon what truths they might have hit. Dont resot to

mere book reading. This is another prop. It will make you very

eloquent no doubt and also highly intellectual but you are nowhere

near god but just the masses.

 

Meditate deep inside using any tool.

 

Now meditation does not mean just closing your eyes and sitting in

the lotus posture.

 

Anything which yokes your heart and soul.

 

Yoga--Yoking

 

will bring about this state.

 

It might be even in a heartfelt bhajan. Meitation is to happen not

to be forced. Now sometimes I see that meditation happens in the

breaks in between two meditative sessions when I just function as if

Iam 'being functioned'. This then was what I have been trying for.

 

Meditation thus has to happen.

 

But the paradox is that this has to be wrought in tto. First the

effort then the stage when one goes into 'effortless effort'

 

When this happens...then you get what you desired in the

beginning...the beyondness ...the " other " ...the " higher " beyond your

body.

 

Om and beyond,

 

Shreeram Balijepalli

 

 

 

Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " MLM "

<moorthyvlr wrote:

>

> Dear fellow members,

> From knowlege it is clear that we are beyond

> body. How to experience this? How to experience our true identity?

How

> can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways to experience

> this. Do mail them.

>

> Regards,

> Moorthy

>