Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Madhu Ma,Anyone can do Devi Upasana.Finding a proper Guru, getting initiated andfollowing what the Guru says would be sufficient.(Sri Bhaskararaya Srividyaacharya)However, Srividya Upasana defintely needs a Guru, a Parampara(you canfind plethora of Gurus these days and Peethams everywhere, they dontmake for a parampara),deeksha,krama(krama-tantras),niyamas and regularUpasana, else the mantric vibrations cannot be assimilated by yoursystem, you will earn yogini shapas(curses of Yoginis) and Brashtatwam(spiritual degradation).Apart from this Srividya Tantra also requiresreading of some scriptural texts,Shastra Pramana(validity of theshastras),Guru-baddha adesha,Vichara,Dhyanaounnatya.These days, I find many sites online publishing erorneous Srividyamantras,procedures,liberal views(some even propogating sexual tantraunder the name of Dkashinachara/Samaychara!).My dear friend Harsha Ramamurthy(a Great srividya upasaka of theKamakoti Mandali) once said that Shastras and Guru are like a medicalstudent trying to learn surgery.You need both bookish knowledge and asenior doctor to learn the proper surgical procedures.If the student goes ahead to do surgery by merely reading of books onhow to do a surgery, will you get operated by him?On the otherhand, will he/she gain anything by just being with thesenior doctor, observing him and then do the operation under his/herguidance a bit?No he/she will not be able to replicate what the Guru does when he doesthe surgical operation independently because, a book/manual lays downthe rules in a logical fashion for the logical brain to assimilate.To put in NLP(Nuerolinguistic programming) lingo:Shishya--Reptelian/emotional/mid brainGuru-Right/Intuitive brainBooks/Shastras--left/logical brain.FYI:1.It is only highly ignorant people who think texts are enough.The inquisitive student must approach a qualified spiritual master to receive transcendental knowledge by surrender, submissive inquiries and service. Knowledge received by submissive inquiries and service is more effective than knowledge received in exchange for money. A spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from Sadashiva,parasurama,Doorvasha deshika,Dattatreya and other great Srividya upasakas have no demand for dollars and cents. A bona fide student has to satisfy him by sincere service to obtain knowledge of the relation and nature of the individual soul and the Supersoul2.It is only highly cowardly(intellectually) people who think Gurualone is enough.(Yes, many times siddhas transmit their teachingswithout even a word --mind-to-mind transmission but then the shishyamust have elvated Himself/Herself to receive such transmissions.Moreover, the very same siddhas from Bhogar,Agasthya and other Munisand Rishis have written these shastras. Just think--Are they fools?Dont they know that Guru would suffice?)3. It is only highly mayavic people(people mired in Maya) who do notindulge in either texts or a Guru! and think what they are doing is right--One should just pity them and waitfor their karmas to ripen for them to become interested in spirituality.Everything moves according to Kaala.Kaalam Bhakshayathi sarvamKaalam evahi sarvam('kaala' eats everything and it is everything!)May weal be to all Devi-janas!Yours yogically,Shreeram Balijepalli(Kumuda Flower-(Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens) --White waterlily,priya of Rajarajeshwari Devi)Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , "srimatre_madhu"<srimatre_madhu wrote:>> guruve saranam>> As DEVI upasana is considered to be an efficicient practicecreating> high vibrations, can every one get into that?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Madhu Ma, Iam a nobody,Ma.Please dont call me a Guru.I prefer to be a student always. Please pray Rajarajeshwari Amba for full grace and blessings and do profess astrology as a spiritual activity and never for even a single cent of money.Temptations might crop up, especially egoistic ones where the astrologer thinks he/she is great just becaus ehe is able to divine the future but such powers are given by Amba only in a trust(Ubbirame fidie), the moment -Pelf(money) or power-feelings(ego) comes in she withdraws Her blessings and protection from the astrologer and he/she starts fumbling. A feeling of humility, reference to karmic laws,speaking sweetly to people who approach you for readings and not frightening them with references to grahas and saying " your shani is weak, your guru is strong " ,speaking the truth nevertheless but in a sweet manner, not telling certain truths--howsoever compelling (especially predictions of death,worshipping Paradevatha to ward off any karma which accrues from such readings and poking nose into other people's lives, Nitya niyamas, respecting the horashastra,seeking out lagnabala of even the reading, being proficient in Prashna and muhurtha(elective astrology) and also depending on upasana bala more than mere shastra bala ( " astrological textual strength " ), following one paddhathi(be it KP system,Parashara,etc), respectign your astro-guru's words and advices, preparing as many horoscopes and studying it carefully and being constantly aware of the movements of stars and planets(asterism etal) will lead you to become a good and divine astrologer for sure. Though I know astorlogy, I never profess it or give a reading to anyone because I believe that there is a component called Human will and it can be exercised though the force of prarabhda, sanchitha and agamya karmas are there. Yours yogically, Shreeram Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan <srimatre_madhu wrote: > > Guruve saranam > Thanks for your higly valuable advise. iam learning astrology and i need your blessings all the time. > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > Dear Madhu Ma, > Anyone can do Devi Upasana.Finding a proper Guru, getting initiated and > following what the Guru says would be sufficient. > (Sri Bhaskararaya Srividyaacharya) > > However, Srividya Upasana defintely needs a Guru, a Parampara(you can > find plethora of Gurus these days and Peethams everywhere, they dont > make for a parampara),deeksha,krama(krama-tantras),niyamas and regular > Upasana, else the mantric vibrations cannot be assimilated by your > system, you will earn yogini shapas(curses of Yoginis) and Brashtatwam > (spiritual degradation).Apart from this Srividya Tantra also requires > reading of some scriptural texts,Shastra Pramana(validity of the > shastras),Guru-baddha adesha,Vichara,Dhyanaounnatya. > > These days, I find many sites online publishing erorneous Srividya > mantras,procedures,liberal views(some even propogating sexual tantra > under the name of Dkashinachara/Samaychara!). > > My dear friend Harsha Ramamurthy(a Great srividya upasaka of the > Kamakoti Mandali) once said that Shastras and Guru are like a medical > student trying to learn surgery.You need both bookish knowledge and a > senior doctor to learn the proper surgical procedures. > > If the student goes ahead to do surgery by merely reading of books on > how to do a surgery, will you get operated by him? > > On the otherhand, will he/she gain anything by just being with the > senior doctor, observing him and then do the operation under his/her > guidance a bit? > > No he/she will not be able to replicate what the Guru does when he does > the surgical operation independently because, a book/manual lays down > the rules in a logical fashion for the logical brain to assimilate. > > > To put in NLP(Nuerolinguistic programming) lingo: > > Shishya--Reptelian/emotional/mid brain > Guru-Right/Intuitive brain > Books/Shastras--left/logical brain. > > FYI: > > > 1.It is only highly ignorant people who think texts are enough.The inquisitive student must approach a qualified spiritual master to receive transcendental knowledge by surrender, submissive inquiries and service. Knowledge received by submissive inquiries and service is more effective than knowledge received in exchange for money. A spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from Sadashiva,parasurama,Doorvasha deshika,Dattatreya and other great Srividya upasakas have no demand for dollars and cents. A bona fide student has to satisfy him by sincere service to obtain knowledge of the relation and nature of the individual soul and the Supersoul > > > 2.It is only highly cowardly(intellectually) people who think Guru > alone is enough.(Yes, many times siddhas transmit their teachings > without even a word --mind-to-mind transmission but then the shishya > must have elvated Himself/Herself to receive such transmissions. > Moreover, the very same siddhas from Bhogar,Agasthya and other Munis > and Rishis have written these shastras. Just think--Are they fools? > Dont they know that Guru would suffice?) > > > 3. It is only highly mayavic people(people mired in Maya) who do not > indulge in either texts or a Guru! and think what they are doing is right > --One should just pity them and wait > for their karmas to ripen for them to become interested in spirituality. > > Everything moves according to Kaala. > > > Kaalam Bhakshayathi sarvam > Kaalam evahi sarvam > ('kaala' eats everything and it is everything!) > > May weal be to all Devi-janas! > > Yours yogically, > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > (Kumuda Flower-(Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens) --White waterlily,priya of Rajarajeshwari Devi) > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " srimatre_madhu " > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > guruve saranam > > > > As DEVI upasana is considered to be an efficicient practice > creating > > high vibrations, can every one get into that? > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Madhusdanji, Sorry for addressing you as a female as I did not know your name fully. A person who predicts about people is in no way connected with the person's karmas. That was not what I meant when I wrote that. Then that will mean everyone will rush to an astrologer to get his/ her karmas cleared off if by a mere reading of his/her past,present future karmas can be transferred by the person who has done it to the astrologer. No it is not that easy. The karma which Iam talking about is different. The prediction karma lies in poking one's nose into the affairs of people and trying to reveal to them their future or even knowing about their past. These are actually best left to Kaala to be decided. The moment future is known, the person who tries to exert his/her free will tries to change it and hence consequently, certain scheme of things which has to happen in praapanchika maya is upset and thus, the astrologer who has an inchoatory hand in it will accrue some demerit because of this.This is the astrologer's personal karma and in no way connected with the person who has sinned or his load of karmas(bad or good) On the otherhand, some might argue that the very fact that such a person who has gone to the astrologer and got the reaidng is due to his karma/fate/destiny and thus the astrologer is in accord with the divine law of karma. This is " over-think " on the issue.Everything then runs according to destiny and/or fate and thus astrology is not at all required, why for that matter even personal effort is not required if one has such faith in destiny.One can never be a perfect fatalist, that is purpose of having astro-sciences in the first place. The astrologer's karma comes on many counts: 1. For upsetting the karmic balance 2. For creating angst or even joy in the person--angst creates bad karma, joy creates good karma for the astrolger. 3. Kartha-bhava on the part of the astrologer.(The sense of identity- that " Iam predicting this " . Manytimes I hear people say " My rpedictions wont go wrong, I can bet you thousand dollars " ...The moment " My " comes, " akartha-bhava " is lost.) 4. The possibility of a prediction going wrong. Not all astrolgers are 100% correct. then a terrible karma accrues for the astrolger. 5. Vimalananda aghori(of the Robert svaboda Aghora book series fame) even says that astrologers are under a curse of Divine mother and they lead miserable lives(if you see some good astrologers they really lead very misreable lives even if they are materially welloff) So, what is the solution(Parihaaram to put in astro-words for all this..hehe!). 1. Upasana bala is to be given importance more than Shastra-bala. 2. Any astro-reding has to be done in connivance of the presiding deity for the prashna lagna,horavidhi and gurusampradaya. 3. After getting intutuive signals that a certain piece of information can be revealed, only such an information should be revealed. 4. Meditation,sadachara,sadbhakthi,niyamas,neethi and dharmic conduct is a must for a divine astrologer. 5. Free readings-nothing for money(or any thing in kind or favors..somethink they are very clever by asking for favors or somethign in kind). 6. Treating every person who comes for a reading as one's own son or daughter and then giving the reading like a loving Mother. 7. Akarthabhava and humility(deep within not external humility). These 7 if done properly, then one can claim to be a divine astrologer, else it will be just some other profession with " ups and downs " Jaya Kapalini! Shreeram Balijepalli Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan <srimatre_madhu wrote: > > > Thanks a lot for such an advise which would bring out the real goodness of mine. > i wish to ask you a question.many people around me say that, " if we predict the hidden things of human lives,then we are responsible for the uncleared karma and we have to do the parigaaras daily. please explain this as many of my age are in a dillemma pursuing astrology. > p.madhusudhanan > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > Dear Madhu Ma, > > Iam a nobody,Ma.Please dont call me a Guru.I prefer to be a student > always. > > Please pray Rajarajeshwari Amba for full grace and blessings and do > profess astrology as a spiritual activity and never for even a single > cent of money.Temptations might crop up, especially egoistic ones > where the astrologer thinks he/she is great just becaus ehe is able > to divine the future but such powers are given by Amba only in a > trust(Ubbirame fidie), the moment -Pelf(money) or power-feelings (ego) > comes in she withdraws Her blessings and protection from the > astrologer and he/she starts fumbling. > > A feeling of humility, reference to karmic laws,speaking sweetly to > people who approach you for readings and not frightening them with > references to grahas and saying " your shani is weak, your guru is > strong " ,speaking the truth nevertheless but in a sweet manner, not > telling certain truths--howsoever compelling (especially predictions > of death,worshipping Paradevatha to ward off any karma which accrues > from such readings and poking nose into other people's lives, Nitya > niyamas, respecting the horashastra,seeking out lagnabala of even the > reading, being proficient in Prashna and muhurtha(elective astrology) > and also depending on upasana bala more than mere shastra bala > ( " astrological textual strength " ), following one paddhathi(be it KP > system,Parashara,etc), respectign your astro-guru's words and > advices, preparing as many horoscopes and studying it carefully and > being constantly aware of the movements of stars and planets (asterism > etal) will lead you to become a good and divine astrologer for sure. > Though I know astorlogy, I never profess it or give a reading to > anyone because I believe that there is a component called Human will > and it can be exercised though the force of prarabhda, sanchitha and > agamya karmas are there. > > Yours yogically, > > Shreeram > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > Guruve saranam > > Thanks for your higly valuable advise. iam > learning astrology and i need your blessings all the time. > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@> wrote: > > Dear Madhu Ma, > > Anyone can do Devi Upasana.Finding a proper Guru, getting > initiated and > > following what the Guru says would be sufficient. > > (Sri Bhaskararaya Srividyaacharya) > > > > However, Srividya Upasana defintely needs a Guru, a Parampara(you > can > > find plethora of Gurus these days and Peethams everywhere, they dont > > make for a parampara),deeksha,krama(krama-tantras),niyamas and > regular > > Upasana, else the mantric vibrations cannot be assimilated by your > > system, you will earn yogini shapas(curses of Yoginis) and > Brashtatwam > > (spiritual degradation).Apart from this Srividya Tantra also > requires > > reading of some scriptural texts,Shastra Pramana(validity of the > > shastras),Guru-baddha adesha,Vichara,Dhyanaounnatya. > > > > These days, I find many sites online publishing erorneous Srividya > > mantras,procedures,liberal views(some even propogating sexual tantra > > under the name of Dkashinachara/Samaychara!). > > > > My dear friend Harsha Ramamurthy(a Great srividya upasaka of the > > Kamakoti Mandali) once said that Shastras and Guru are like a > medical > > student trying to learn surgery.You need both bookish knowledge and > a > > senior doctor to learn the proper surgical procedures. > > > > If the student goes ahead to do surgery by merely reading of books > on > > how to do a surgery, will you get operated by him? > > > > On the otherhand, will he/she gain anything by just being with the > > senior doctor, observing him and then do the operation under his/her > > guidance a bit? > > > > No he/she will not be able to replicate what the Guru does when he > does > > the surgical operation independently because, a book/manual lays > down > > the rules in a logical fashion for the logical brain to assimilate. > > > > > > To put in NLP(Nuerolinguistic programming) lingo: > > > > Shishya--Reptelian/emotional/mid brain > > Guru-Right/Intuitive brain > > Books/Shastras--left/logical brain. > > > > FYI: > > > > > > 1.It is only highly ignorant people who think texts are enough.The > inquisitive student must approach a qualified spiritual master to > receive transcendental knowledge by surrender, submissive inquiries > and service. Knowledge received by submissive inquiries and service > is more effective than knowledge received in exchange for money. A > spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from > Sadashiva,parasurama,Doorvasha deshika,Dattatreya and other great > Srividya upasakas have no demand for dollars and cents. A bona fide > student has to satisfy him by sincere service to obtain knowledge of > the relation and nature of the individual soul and the Supersoul > > > > > > 2.It is only highly cowardly(intellectually) people who think Guru > > alone is enough.(Yes, many times siddhas transmit their teachings > > without even a word --mind-to-mind transmission but then the shishya > > must have elvated Himself/Herself to receive such transmissions. > > Moreover, the very same siddhas from Bhogar,Agasthya and other Munis > > and Rishis have written these shastras. Just think--Are they fools? > > Dont they know that Guru would suffice?) > > > > > > 3. It is only highly mayavic people(people mired in Maya) who do not > > indulge in either texts or a Guru! and think what they are doing is > right > > --One should just pity them and wait > > for their karmas to ripen for them to become interested in > spirituality. > > > > Everything moves according to Kaala. > > > > > > Kaalam Bhakshayathi sarvam > > Kaalam evahi sarvam > > ('kaala' eats everything and it is everything!) > > > > May weal be to all Devi-janas! > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > (Kumuda Flower-(Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens) --White > waterlily,priya of Rajarajeshwari Devi) > > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " srimatre_madhu " > > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > > > guruve saranam > > > > > > As DEVI upasana is considered to be an efficicient practice > > creating > > > high vibrations, can every one get into that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with > Autos. > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sir, Please do not place me on a high pedestal. Iam anobody trying to love Divinemother as best as I can. For now, Iam in Newyork doing my MBA here.Iam quite young and your praises are rather lavish. As you are an aged person, please bless me sir. Iam forever in your Athma as " yours yogically " ... Yours yogically, Shreeram Balijepalli Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , sadhujag sadhujag <sadhujag wrote: > > > Hari Om > > Your words are divine revelation. Not one letter out of place. > some months back I had posted a desire to meet you in person. > If you permit me please, to visit you - not for any discussion on > any subject but for silent sitting in your presence for a brief span of 15 to 20 mts. > I will keep my word and not talk on anything unlesss you ask me something. > > I have retired from service last month on completing 60 years of age > and commencing my spiritual life now. > > With pranams, > > Jagadeesan > > > > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru > Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:49:49 AM > [Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru] Re: Devi Upasana > > > > > > > Dear Madhusdanji, > > > > Sorry for addressing you as a female as I did not know your name > > fully. > > > > A person who predicts about people is in no way connected with the > > person's karmas. That was not what I meant when I wrote that. Then > > that will mean everyone will rush to an astrologer to get his/ her > > karmas cleared off if by a mere reading of his/her past,present > > future karmas can be transferred by the person who has done it to the > > astrologer. No it is not that easy. > > > > The karma which Iam talking about is different. > > > > The prediction karma lies in poking one's nose into the affairs of > > people and trying to reveal to them their future or even knowing > > about their past. These are actually best left to Kaala to be > > decided. The moment future is known, the person who tries to exert > > his/her free will tries to change it and hence consequently, certain > > scheme of things which has to happen in praapanchika maya is upset > > and thus, the astrologer who has an inchoatory hand in it will accrue > > some demerit because of this.This is the astrologer's personal karma > > and in no way connected with the person who has sinned or his load of > > karmas(bad or good) > > > > On the otherhand, some might argue that the very fact that such a > > person who has gone to the astrologer and got the reaidng is due to > > his karma/fate/destiny and thus the astrologer is in accord with the > > divine law of karma. This is " over-think " on the issue.Everything > > then runs according to destiny and/or fate and thus astrology is not > > at all required, why for that matter even personal effort is not > > required if one has such faith in destiny.One can never be a perfect > > fatalist, that is purpose of having astro-sciences in the first place. > > > > The astrologer's karma comes on many counts: > > > > 1. For upsetting the karmic balance > > 2. For creating angst or even joy in the person--angst creates bad > > karma, joy creates good karma for the astrolger. > > 3. Kartha-bhava on the part of the astrologer.( The sense of identity- > > that " Iam predicting this " . Manytimes I hear people say " My > > rpedictions wont go wrong, I can bet you thousand dollars " ...The > > moment " My " comes, " akartha- bhava " is lost.) > > 4. The possibility of a prediction going wrong. Not all astrolgers > > are 100% correct. then a terrible karma accrues for the astrolger. > > 5. Vimalananda aghori(of the Robert svaboda Aghora book series fame) > > even says that astrologers are under a curse of Divine mother and > > they lead miserable lives(if you see some good astrologers they > > really lead very misreable lives even if they are materially welloff) > > > > So, what is the solution(Parihaaram to put in astro-words for all > > this..hehe!) . > > > > 1. Upasana bala is to be given importance more than Shastra-bala. > > 2. Any astro-reding has to be done in connivance of the presiding > > deity for the prashna lagna,horavidhi and gurusampradaya. > > 3. After getting intutuive signals that a certain piece of > > information can be revealed, only such an information should be > > revealed. > > 4. Meditation,sadachar a,sadbhakthi, niyamas,neethi and dharmic conduct > > is a must for a divine astrologer. > > 5. Free readings-nothing for money(or any thing in kind or > > favors..somethink they are very clever by asking for favors or > > somethign in kind). > > 6. Treating every person who comes for a reading as one's own son or > > daughter and then giving the reading like a loving Mother. > > 7. Akarthabhava and humility(deep within not external humility). > > > > These 7 if done properly, then one can claim to be a divine > > astrologer, else it will be just some other profession with " ups and > > downs " > > > > Jaya Kapalini! > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > Rajarajeshwari_ Kalpataru, madhu sudhanan > > <srimatre_madhu@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for such an advise which would bring out the > > real goodness of mine. > > > i wish to ask you a question.many people around me say > > that, " if we predict the hidden things of human lives,then we are > > responsible for the uncleared karma and we have to do the parigaaras > > daily. please explain this as many of my age are in a dillemma > > pursuing astrology. > > > > > p.madhusudhanan > > > > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Madhu Ma, > > > > > > Iam a nobody,Ma.Please dont call me a Guru.I prefer to be a student > > > always. > > > > > > Please pray Rajarajeshwari Amba for full grace and blessings and do > > > profess astrology as a spiritual activity and never for even a > > single > > > cent of money.Temptations might crop up, especially egoistic ones > > > where the astrologer thinks he/she is great just becaus ehe is able > > > to divine the future but such powers are given by Amba only in a > > > trust(Ubbirame fidie), the moment -Pelf(money) or power-feelings > > (ego) > > > comes in she withdraws Her blessings and protection from the > > > astrologer and he/she starts fumbling. > > > > > > A feeling of humility, reference to karmic laws,speaking sweetly to > > > people who approach you for readings and not frightening them with > > > references to grahas and saying " your shani is weak, your guru is > > > strong " ,speaking the truth nevertheless but in a sweet manner, not > > > telling certain truths--howsoever compelling (especially > > predictions > > > of death,worshipping Paradevatha to ward off any karma which > > accrues > > > from such readings and poking nose into other people's lives, Nitya > > > niyamas, respecting the horashastra, seeking out lagnabala of even > > the > > > reading, being proficient in Prashna and muhurtha(elective > > astrology) > > > and also depending on upasana bala more than mere shastra bala > > > ( " astrological textual strength " ), following one paddhathi(be it KP > > > system,Parashara, etc), respectign your astro-guru's words and > > > advices, preparing as many horoscopes and studying it carefully and > > > being constantly aware of the movements of stars and planets > > (asterism > > > etal) will lead you to become a good and divine astrologer for > > sure. > > > Though I know astorlogy, I never profess it or give a reading to > > > anyone because I believe that there is a component called Human > > will > > > and it can be exercised though the force of prarabhda, sanchitha > > and > > > agamya karmas are there. > > > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > > > Shreeram > > > > > > Rajarajeshwari_ Kalpataru, madhu sudhanan > > > <srimatre_madhu@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Guruve saranam > > > > Thanks for your higly valuable advise. iam > > > learning astrology and i need your blessings all the time. > > > > > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Madhu Ma, > > > > Anyone can do Devi Upasana.Finding a proper Guru, getting > > > initiated and > > > > following what the Guru says would be sufficient. > > > > (Sri Bhaskararaya Srividyaacharya) > > > > > > > > However, Srividya Upasana defintely needs a Guru, a Parampara (you > > > can > > > > find plethora of Gurus these days and Peethams everywhere, they > > dont > > > > make for a parampara),deeksha, krama(krama- tantras), niyamas and > > > regular > > > > Upasana, else the mantric vibrations cannot be assimilated by your > > > > system, you will earn yogini shapas(curses of Yoginis) and > > > Brashtatwam > > > > (spiritual degradation) .Apart from this Srividya Tantra also > > > requires > > > > reading of some scriptural texts,Shastra Pramana(validity of the > > > > shastras),Guru- baddha adesha,Vichara, Dhyanaounnatya. > > > > > > > > These days, I find many sites online publishing erorneous Srividya > > > > mantras,procedures, liberal views(some even propogating sexual > > tantra > > > > under the name of Dkashinachara/ Samaychara! ). > > > > > > > > My dear friend Harsha Ramamurthy(a Great srividya upasaka of the > > > > Kamakoti Mandali) once said that Shastras and Guru are like a > > > medical > > > > student trying to learn surgery.You need both bookish knowledge > > and > > > a > > > > senior doctor to learn the proper surgical procedures. > > > > > > > > If the student goes ahead to do surgery by merely reading of > > books > > > on > > > > how to do a surgery, will you get operated by him? > > > > > > > > On the otherhand, will he/she gain anything by just being with the > > > > senior doctor, observing him and then do the operation under > > his/her > > > > guidance a bit? > > > > > > > > No he/she will not be able to replicate what the Guru does when > > he > > > does > > > > the surgical operation independently because, a book/manual lays > > > down > > > > the rules in a logical fashion for the logical brain to > > assimilate. > > > > > > > > > > > > To put in NLP(Nuerolinguistic programming) lingo: > > > > > > > > Shishya--Reptelian/ emotional/ mid brain > > > > Guru-Right/Intuitiv e brain > > > > Books/Shastras- -left/logical brain. > > > > > > > > FYI: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.It is only highly ignorant people who think texts are > > enough.The > > > inquisitive student must approach a qualified spiritual master to > > > receive transcendental knowledge by surrender, submissive inquiries > > > and service. Knowledge received by submissive inquiries and service > > > is more effective than knowledge received in exchange for money. A > > > spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from > > > Sadashiva,parasuram a,Doorvasha deshika,Dattatreya and other great > > > Srividya upasakas have no demand for dollars and cents. A bona fide > > > student has to satisfy him by sincere service to obtain knowledge > > of > > > the relation and nature of the individual soul and the Supersoul > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.It is only highly cowardly(intellectu ally) people who think Guru > > > > alone is enough.(Yes, many times siddhas transmit their teachings > > > > without even a word --mind-to-mind transmission but then the > > shishya > > > > must have elvated Himself/Herself to receive such transmissions. > > > > Moreover, the very same siddhas from Bhogar,Agasthya and other > > Munis > > > > and Rishis have written these shastras. Just think--Are they > > fools? > > > > Dont they know that Guru would suffice?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It is only highly mayavic people(people mired in Maya) who do > > not > > > > indulge in either texts or a Guru! and think what they are doing > > is > > > right > > > > --One should just pity them and wait > > > > for their karmas to ripen for them to become interested in > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > Everything moves according to Kaala. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaalam Bhakshayathi sarvam > > > > Kaalam evahi sarvam > > > > ('kaala' eats everything and it is everything!) > > > > > > > > May weal be to all Devi-janas! > > > > > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > > > > > (Kumuda Flower-(Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens) --White > > > waterlily,priya of Rajarajeshwari Devi) > > > > > > > > Rajarajeshwari_ Kalpataru@ . com, " srimatre_madhu " > > > > <srimatre_madhu@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > guruve saranam > > > > > > > > > > As DEVI upasana is considered to be an efficicient practice > > > > creating > > > > > high vibrations, can every one get into that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. 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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Member, Try stopping to give any predictions or reading about astrology and then check whether the dogs still bite you in your dream. If they still bite, it has no connection with your astro-readings. A biting dog/s will mean anything some meanings which can be derived... 1. Unfulfilled pitrhurunas(cleansing of the manes using pithru- shrardha paddhathi). These are the days of Mahalaya Paksha, so you can indulge in Pithru karmas using vishnubhokthas too to resolve this. (Vishnubhokthas are special type of vedic priests who chant certain advanced shardha mantras and then take the food along with brahma- and shiva-bhoktha...3 bhokthas must be present for shardhaa) 2. It might alternatively mean, that your friends are going to backstab you or are backstabbing you already. 3. It might mean that you are growing veneous against your friends. 4. It might mean some sort of Bhairava or Datta- Dosha which needs pacification. 5. It might mean some Bhairava/shiva/datta yogi is trying to reduce your karma by the dog-bites in your dreams Many meanings might be conjectured thus. So, outright, I cannot say anything unless I meet you personally. I think I cannot meet you personally because Iam in USA and India(even otherwise, I prefer to remain anonymous). You may meet some spiritual astrologer who can also divine dreams and thus come up with an amicable solution for this. Thankyou for placing trust in me. Divinemother is there. Just pray to Her with full faith, visit Nanganallur Rajarajeshwari tmeple in Chennai, meet Rajagopala swamiji (the founder yogi of the tmeple) and then He might too provide a solution for this. Jaya Swapneshwari! Shreeram Balijepalli Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan <srimatre_madhu wrote: > > I really thank my god for giving me such valuable contacts. i want one more explanation,whether the dreams can explain our future.because i often dream as some dogs biting me , sharply after 4.00 am for the past one year,the period which i started offering free predictions. > > please explain me whether this dream has any thing in store for me. > > you can me madhuma as it sounds of like a mother > Thank you > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > Dear Madhusdanji, > > Sorry for addressing you as a female as I did not know your name > fully. > > A person who predicts about people is in no way connected with the > person's karmas. That was not what I meant when I wrote that. Then > that will mean everyone will rush to an astrologer to get his/ her > karmas cleared off if by a mere reading of his/her past,present > future karmas can be transferred by the person who has done it to the > astrologer. No it is not that easy. > > The karma which Iam talking about is different. > > The prediction karma lies in poking one's nose into the affairs of > people and trying to reveal to them their future or even knowing > about their past. These are actually best left to Kaala to be > decided. The moment future is known, the person who tries to exert > his/her free will tries to change it and hence consequently, certain > scheme of things which has to happen in praapanchika maya is upset > and thus, the astrologer who has an inchoatory hand in it will accrue > some demerit because of this.This is the astrologer's personal karma > and in no way connected with the person who has sinned or his load of > karmas(bad or good) > > On the otherhand, some might argue that the very fact that such a > person who has gone to the astrologer and got the reaidng is due to > his karma/fate/destiny and thus the astrologer is in accord with the > divine law of karma. This is " over-think " on the issue.Everything > then runs according to destiny and/or fate and thus astrology is not > at all required, why for that matter even personal effort is not > required if one has such faith in destiny.One can never be a perfect > fatalist, that is purpose of having astro-sciences in the first place. > > The astrologer's karma comes on many counts: > > 1. For upsetting the karmic balance > 2. For creating angst or even joy in the person--angst creates bad > karma, joy creates good karma for the astrolger. > 3. Kartha-bhava on the part of the astrologer.(The sense of identity- > that " Iam predicting this " . Manytimes I hear people say " My > rpedictions wont go wrong, I can bet you thousand dollars " ...The > moment " My " comes, " akartha-bhava " is lost.) > 4. The possibility of a prediction going wrong. Not all astrolgers > are 100% correct. then a terrible karma accrues for the astrolger. > 5. Vimalananda aghori(of the Robert svaboda Aghora book series fame) > even says that astrologers are under a curse of Divine mother and > they lead miserable lives(if you see some good astrologers they > really lead very misreable lives even if they are materially welloff) > > So, what is the solution(Parihaaram to put in astro-words for all > this..hehe!). > > 1. Upasana bala is to be given importance more than Shastra-bala. > 2. Any astro-reding has to be done in connivance of the presiding > deity for the prashna lagna,horavidhi and gurusampradaya. > 3. After getting intutuive signals that a certain piece of > information can be revealed, only such an information should be > revealed. > 4. Meditation,sadachara,sadbhakthi,niyamas,neethi and dharmic conduct > is a must for a divine astrologer. > 5. Free readings-nothing for money(or any thing in kind or > favors..somethink they are very clever by asking for favors or > somethign in kind). > 6. Treating every person who comes for a reading as one's own son or > daughter and then giving the reading like a loving Mother. > 7. Akarthabhava and humility(deep within not external humility). > > These 7 if done properly, then one can claim to be a divine > astrologer, else it will be just some other profession with " ups and > downs " > > Jaya Kapalini! > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks a lot for such an advise which would bring out the > real goodness of mine. > > i wish to ask you a question.many people around me say > that, " if we predict the hidden things of human lives,then we are > responsible for the uncleared karma and we have to do the parigaaras > daily. please explain this as many of my age are in a dillemma > pursuing astrology. > > > p.madhusudhanan > > > > > > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@> wrote: > > Dear Madhu Ma, > > > > Iam a nobody,Ma.Please dont call me a Guru.I prefer to be a student > > always. > > > > Please pray Rajarajeshwari Amba for full grace and blessings and do > > profess astrology as a spiritual activity and never for even a > single > > cent of money.Temptations might crop up, especially egoistic ones > > where the astrologer thinks he/she is great just becaus ehe is able > > to divine the future but such powers are given by Amba only in a > > trust(Ubbirame fidie), the moment -Pelf(money) or power-feelings > (ego) > > comes in she withdraws Her blessings and protection from the > > astrologer and he/she starts fumbling. > > > > A feeling of humility, reference to karmic laws,speaking sweetly to > > people who approach you for readings and not frightening them with > > references to grahas and saying " your shani is weak, your guru is > > strong " ,speaking the truth nevertheless but in a sweet manner, not > > telling certain truths--howsoever compelling (especially > predictions > > of death,worshipping Paradevatha to ward off any karma which > accrues > > from such readings and poking nose into other people's lives, Nitya > > niyamas, respecting the horashastra,seeking out lagnabala of even > the > > reading, being proficient in Prashna and muhurtha(elective > astrology) > > and also depending on upasana bala more than mere shastra bala > > ( " astrological textual strength " ), following one paddhathi(be it KP > > system,Parashara,etc), respectign your astro-guru's words and > > advices, preparing as many horoscopes and studying it carefully and > > being constantly aware of the movements of stars and planets > (asterism > > etal) will lead you to become a good and divine astrologer for > sure. > > Though I know astorlogy, I never profess it or give a reading to > > anyone because I believe that there is a component called Human > will > > and it can be exercised though the force of prarabhda, sanchitha > and > > agamya karmas are there. > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > Shreeram > > > > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , madhu sudhanan > > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > > > Guruve saranam > > > Thanks for your higly valuable advise. iam > > learning astrology and i need your blessings all the time. > > > > > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma@> wrote: > > > Dear Madhu Ma, > > > Anyone can do Devi Upasana.Finding a proper Guru, getting > > initiated and > > > following what the Guru says would be sufficient. > > > (Sri Bhaskararaya Srividyaacharya) > > > > > > However, Srividya Upasana defintely needs a Guru, a Parampara (you > > can > > > find plethora of Gurus these days and Peethams everywhere, they > dont > > > make for a parampara),deeksha,krama(krama-tantras),niyamas and > > regular > > > Upasana, else the mantric vibrations cannot be assimilated by your > > > system, you will earn yogini shapas(curses of Yoginis) and > > Brashtatwam > > > (spiritual degradation).Apart from this Srividya Tantra also > > requires > > > reading of some scriptural texts,Shastra Pramana(validity of the > > > shastras),Guru-baddha adesha,Vichara,Dhyanaounnatya. > > > > > > These days, I find many sites online publishing erorneous Srividya > > > mantras,procedures,liberal views(some even propogating sexual > tantra > > > under the name of Dkashinachara/Samaychara!). > > > > > > My dear friend Harsha Ramamurthy(a Great srividya upasaka of the > > > Kamakoti Mandali) once said that Shastras and Guru are like a > > medical > > > student trying to learn surgery.You need both bookish knowledge > and > > a > > > senior doctor to learn the proper surgical procedures. > > > > > > If the student goes ahead to do surgery by merely reading of > books > > on > > > how to do a surgery, will you get operated by him? > > > > > > On the otherhand, will he/she gain anything by just being with the > > > senior doctor, observing him and then do the operation under > his/her > > > guidance a bit? > > > > > > No he/she will not be able to replicate what the Guru does when > he > > does > > > the surgical operation independently because, a book/manual lays > > down > > > the rules in a logical fashion for the logical brain to > assimilate. > > > > > > > > > To put in NLP(Nuerolinguistic programming) lingo: > > > > > > Shishya--Reptelian/emotional/mid brain > > > Guru-Right/Intuitive brain > > > Books/Shastras--left/logical brain. > > > > > > FYI: > > > > > > > > > 1.It is only highly ignorant people who think texts are > enough.The > > inquisitive student must approach a qualified spiritual master to > > receive transcendental knowledge by surrender, submissive inquiries > > and service. Knowledge received by submissive inquiries and service > > is more effective than knowledge received in exchange for money. A > > spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from > > Sadashiva,parasurama,Doorvasha deshika,Dattatreya and other great > > Srividya upasakas have no demand for dollars and cents. A bona fide > > student has to satisfy him by sincere service to obtain knowledge > of > > the relation and nature of the individual soul and the Supersoul > > > > > > > > > 2.It is only highly cowardly(intellectually) people who think Guru > > > alone is enough.(Yes, many times siddhas transmit their teachings > > > without even a word --mind-to-mind transmission but then the > shishya > > > must have elvated Himself/Herself to receive such transmissions. > > > Moreover, the very same siddhas from Bhogar,Agasthya and other > Munis > > > and Rishis have written these shastras. Just think--Are they > fools? > > > Dont they know that Guru would suffice?) > > > > > > > > > 3. It is only highly mayavic people(people mired in Maya) who do > not > > > indulge in either texts or a Guru! and think what they are doing > is > > right > > > --One should just pity them and wait > > > for their karmas to ripen for them to become interested in > > spirituality. > > > > > > Everything moves according to Kaala. > > > > > > > > > Kaalam Bhakshayathi sarvam > > > Kaalam evahi sarvam > > > ('kaala' eats everything and it is everything!) > > > > > > May weal be to all Devi-janas! > > > > > > Yours yogically, > > > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > > > (Kumuda Flower-(Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens) --White > > waterlily,priya of Rajarajeshwari Devi) > > > > > > --- In Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru , " srimatre_madhu " > > > <srimatre_madhu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > guruve saranam > > > > > > > > As DEVI upasana is considered to be an efficicient practice > > > creating > > > > high vibrations, can every one get into that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with > > Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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