Guru query

August 12, 2008

Dear Member,

To open a door we need to have just one type of key(One might argue that there maybe there might be the master key or duplicates) but just one 'kind' of key with one 'kind' of grooves and cuttings.Thus there can be only one path and one Guru.

You need to get initiation into Panchadasi to do Lalitha Sahasranama. There is no second doubt about it.I understand your anxiety to do Lalitha Sahasranama but this again is Devi-Maya, which is trillion times more powerful than Vishnu-Maya. She is testing you.(Tamil Saying:'Ammayin sodhanaigal pala pala, Adhil vellubavargla sila sila'/Telugu Saying:'Ammani Pette' pareekshalu Adhikamu, Daanilo negginavaariki Aadhyaathmikamu').

Please wait patiently for the appropriate time to find a Guru. One posting back, one member was asking me:"Please tell me which Guru, I have to adopt/follow, I have no one but you to seek advice"

This reply is for both of you: WHEN THE TIME IS RIPE THE GURU WILL APPEAR.This does not mean you can relax and be lax in your spiritual duties.

What is expressed as a want now, will fade and when the true need arises, then the Guru will come.This looks so paradoxical.When one is dying to get a Guru one does not find one but other people seem to be content with their Gurus and paths.

Nope! This again is Prapanchika-Maya enacted by Bhavany. No can be content eternally, there is always forward movement.

However, flitting between Gurus is not called for unless there is a real reason.I too have many 'Gurus' in the sense, the Tantreeka kriyas I have learnt from one Teacher, Homachara procedures which I learnt from yet another Teacher, Vedic chantings which I learnt from my Vedaacharya, My Sweetest Srividya Guru Rajagopalar,etc. This is apart from my Parents,who both inculcated in me a sense of divinity,introduction into mantras,encouraging me into this path,etc.

There are other Gurus too like say my MBA professors here in USA.My CA Coaching class teachers in the Institute back in India, my online tutor for SAP now, My online tutor for American CPA last month,etc. All these people though mere humans take upon the sacred mantle of Gurutwa and are Vandaneeyaha.

However, Moksha-Guru is one.When He(or in a rare case a 'She') comes, your doubts will dissolve.

For now, to answer your question: Please seek initiation into Panchadasi from a Srividya adept and then take His permission and start reciting Lalitha Sahasranama. This is Shreyaskara(Most auspicious).After all you are doing this initially for some Kaamyaartha(else there won't be so many doubts assialing your psyche regaridng this depsite clear-cut instructions from me in the past.Also, Mokshaarthins remain contended and wait patiently for their Guru and pray earnestly to Bhavany to remove their 'Kalmashas'(pollution) from their Body-mind-soul matrix)

Other options, will not be dubbed as Haanikara(harmful) by me.

Certain pointers here:

1. Lalitha Sahasranama which I see in the market being published has many typographical errors and utter procedural mistakes. For example: "Mahashakthi" instead of "Mahaasakthi" ---"sha" instead of "sa". Some might cleverely argue that SHE IS MAHASHAKTHI, So what is wrong. However, I would prefer to chant the way Vaagdevi first pronounced the Lalitha Sahasranama to Hayagreeva Bhagavan.

2. Public chanting of Lalitha Sahasranama. 'Lalitha' , name sounds so beautiful.So they perceive that it is really Ok to chant it in public as it is all-auspiciousness.

3. Reciting at the behest of Modern day Gurus and Ammas. Unless initiatory process is explicitly given by them to the inidividual, I would not advice it even if they have said "All can do it". Even when they say thus, they mean it only for some people and they say those words in their divine state.

Iam not doubting their powerful propensities. Infact, last month, Sri Karunamayi called me personally while sitting in a crowd and wrote on my toungue a mantra(which was really meant for small children). Being embarrassed, I asked Her gently, "Why on my toungue instead of these children Amma? They need the Saraswathy mantra more." But She replied, "You are Her son and Iam Santoshi Matha Amsa, that is why".These type interactions and divine vibrations can be recived(and should be received if given a chance). Now, this again does not mean, I have left my Guru and am now in Karunamayi ji's path. I respect all True Gurus and Ammas.

(Some have even lashed out at me personally for saying "Please get yourself initiated properly into Panchadasi and then do Lalitha Sahasranama."They take it as a personal affront to Ammachi! I never even mentioned about Ammachi nor did I have Her in my mind when I said that. That is why I say people's perceptions are more powerful than logic. Everyone berates about logic but they don't see people's perceptions.

My Ammachi experience: I met Her once in Chennai-Vadapalani Center.She hugged me and said "Endhaa Mone'?" (What is it son? In Malayalam) I replied back looking at her eyes, and said , "Ondhu illa Ammey"(Nothing, Amma).She laughed and said" Endha mutthe'..."(My 'pearl') and hugged me once again and stroked my spine several times. I asked Her at that time, "Nyaan ivvide..." and then broke off and kept quite.(I, here...Actually I wanted to tell Her that I wanted to stay in India and not go to Canada/USA) I think She understood it and saw me and asked "ninnaLkku sukham a:No: ?" (Are you in comfort?) and then She continued, "M. a:ru pravartti ceyyunnuvo: avarkku phalam kiTTum"('He who does work will get the results', in other words She bade me to finish my Karmas in USA/Canada). I saw Her twinkling eyes and said, "valiya upakaaramaayi! Ammey, valiya upakaaramaayi! Ammey"{Thankyou very much, it is very kind of you(to clear my confusion)} and then left the place as there were others waiting for the hugging of Her Motherly arms.

Will I ever think bad of such a mother?)

4. There are certain mantras like Srividya Ganapathy, ChandiNavakshari,etc(in some cases Skanda and Chidambara mantras if the Sammelana rituals are adopted) to do before getting Panchadasi. All these are done to gain 'Chittashuddi' and purify before performing the Moksha-vidya. Gold has to pass through many a fire before it shines, Diamond has to get many a cut before it coruscates with scintillating brilliance.

I hope you turn into a 'Golden' and 'Diamond-like' Upasaka.I can easily lie to please you and be in your good books but I do not tell what you want to hear but what the truth is and this is for your own good.

5. There are modern-day Peethas and temples for Srividya which d not have a proper Srividya-paramparas and claim some Guru Lineage(apart from the Triune paths) and start doling out mantras and nominating even Peethadhipathys. These are at best to be viewed for fun,drama and some comic relief nothing more.Maybe even this is a waste of time and accumulating negative vibrations. Do not follow such people or organizations guidelines.

If seeing Mahatripurasundari Lalitha Rajarajeshwari Parabhattarika Paradevatha is so easy, tell me how many people have seen Her really.Here too lot of people narrate their 'experiences' to fool themselves and people around them.Claiming to see visions, dreams,coincidental events as doings of Paradevatha,etc.All this is anunholy vortex

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Your dilemma, from your email, I perceive thus.Please correct me if Iam wrong:

You have a Guru now and who is either not into Lalitha mode or does not have the qualifications to give Panchadasi mantra or is not interested in giving you or is no more(samadhi) or elsewhere and unaccessible(like say Ammachi or Karunamayi) and you do not want to leave this Guru and yet get Lalitha Sahasranama initiation somehow and chant the litany.Thus, you seek the 'permission' of some other Srividya Guru and start right away chanting the litany.

Answer: Find a Proper Srividya Guru and take the Panchadasi initiation first.Sometimes an adpet can see through a person's past births and in a rare occasion give directly the Panchadasi if the person had already performed lot of Upasanas past births.Then He would by-pass the requirements for Srividya Ganapathy, Chandi mantra, and Bala purascharanas and give directly the Panchadasi.(I had been initiated thus, but was briefed about my past birth sadhanas.Actually speaking there is no 'By-pass route')

You can still follow the spiritual teaching of your first Guru and keep the boat going, till you fully fall in the groove of Srividya path and then there is only 'Eka-Guru-eka-shakthi'(One Guru and one shakthi)

------------I hope, I have nailed down everything for you clearly------------------------------

Yours yogically,

Shreeram Balijepalli

Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam...

Click to join Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru --- On Mon, 8/11/08, <Name undisclosed for privacy reasons> wrote:

Hellopara_anulomaDate: Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:54 PM

Dear Sir,

You have mentioned that one should only chant Sri Lalitha Sahasranama after receiving initiation to Panchadasi Mantra.

If one receives permission to chant Sri Lalitha Sahasranama from a SriVidya Guru ( without initiation to SriVidya), is it alright for him to chant?

Also, after that can he receive SriVidya initiation from another SriVidya Guru?

Thank you,

G(Name undisclosed for privacy reasons)