Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Namaste All, While on the subject of the thread ceremonies and traditions and Avani Avittam,I have a question about the mantras or slokas commonly used in South India when tying on the Raksha Bandhan (the red or yellow wrist thread). Also what are the traditions, ie on which wrist " right " " or " left is permissable for women in Tamil or Telugu traditions? I was told the Mrtyunjaya mantra was commonly used or the following mantra was also used in Tamil Nadu: " Bruhat Sama Kshatrabrut Vrudra Bishniyam Dhrustu Bouja Suvitham Ugraviram. " Does anyone have a translation of this? From what I understand the following mantra is used in Noth India Yena baddho balee raajaa daanavendro mahaabalah; Tena twaam anubadhnaami rakshey maa chala maa chala. " I am tying on your hand this Raksha, with which the most powerful and generous King Bali himself was bound; O Raksha, don't go away; don't go away. " --Om Sri Lalitambikayai Namah--Buvaneshwar Srividya-Tantra , gs prasad <gs_prasadin2003 wrote: > > > Dear Sriramji, >  > thank you soo much annaya, showing me the way > regards > Prasad > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, para_anuloma <para_anuloma wrote: > > para_anuloma <para_anuloma > [Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru] Re: yagnopaveeta dharana vidhi aug 16th > Rajarajeshwari_Kalpataru > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 9:11 PM > > Rajarajeshwari_ Kalpataru, gs prasad <gs_prasadin2003@ ...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sriram garu, > > � > > jai sri lalithe > > � As you were� mentioned about yagnopaveeta dharana,� as� i belong to vishwabrahmin ( vishwakarmas ) As sriramji, my grandfathers dad and there� ancestor where wearing > > punool and my grand� pa and my dad havent worn poonul and they have non� veg � and i would like to wear punool, as i� in my childhood i had non veg and when i came to know we have tradition of wearing punool i stopped having nonveg and its now 15years i hav left having non� veg, But my grandpa nor my dad dont know� the� vidhi vidhan -my dad is against all this dont believe in wearing punool. As in kerala for vishwabrahims we have tradition of wearing 5 or 7 threads for punool some people tell its 7 and som they tell 5� threads. As for Saanaga brahma rishi gotra we have rigveda, but i dnt know anything about this, in this time > > sriramji i� m requesting you to guide me. > > � > > regards > > Prasad > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- ----- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- ------ --------- --------- - > Dear Prasadji, > Vishwabrahmins are divided into five gotras or exogamous clans, each corresponding to a Rishi named in the Yajur Veda (4.3.3) > 1. Sanaga Rishi >  2. Sanaathana Rishi, > 3. Abhuvanasa Rishi >  4. Prathnasa Rishi and > 5. Suparnasa Rishi. > Each of the five gotras is also identified with a traditional occupation: 1. Manu (blacksmith) , 2. Maya (carpenter), 3. Thwastha (metalcraftsman) , 4. Silpi (stone-carver) and 5. Vishvajnya (goldsmit h). > The five Gotras are further divided into a total of 25 sub-clans (upa-gotras) . Because of their fivefold division, they are also known as Panchals. They are said to follow five Vedas (instead of the standard four), the fifth being the " Pranava Veda " . > > Vishwabrahmins revere Vishwakarma > (Who is a Brahamana rishi, thus they are technically speaking Brahmins and have to wear the Sacred thread and follow the niyamas of vegetarianism, non-alcoholism and other duties enjoined upon Brahmins. > However, as I always say a Brahmin is only a person who is in search of the Brahman and who is sincere in his/her approach and follow certain niyamas, thus there is no caste feelings to be allowed be it a person who is born as a Brahmin or other higher castes. > Each person thinks high of his or her caste or community when all are equal before God. > Yajnopaveetha is a mark associated with a person's spiritual level and not his or caste. > I know people who eat meat, have multiple sex partners and consume alcohol wearing Yajnopaveetha and for such people I say Yajnopaveetha is just a set of threads which has no meaning except an egoistic feeling that they belong to a particular caste or community. >  I keep repeating this so that people don't get the idea that I'm caste-minded. > Most of the fights which occur in India are caste based. >  I only want the essence of spirituality not the pith which surrounds it.The pith was a super-struture created later on for the sake of convinience and operational modality.) > > The Pranava Veda is a text that elucidates the process of energy (Brahmam) turning itself into matter (the material world. In this text, pure energy or consciousness goes through a process that can be observed as a mathematical order. That process can be emulated by humans through applying that mathematical order to dance, music, poetry, architecture and sculpture thus creating arts that vibrate in a way that causes the viewer, listener, inhabitant to vibrate with the Divine qualities that the art form does. This Pranava Veda was cognized by Brahmarishi Mayan about 10,000 years ago. > Many people believe that Pranava refers to the sound AUM. In fact, pranava comes from the roots Pirazh + Nava = Pranava. Turn/Flip or turn into Nine; Pranava means the transformation of 8 into 9. > Brahmarishi Mayan says in the Pranava Veda that consciousness multiplies itself into 8 units or pulses (units of Time) of OM light and OM sound. One unit of TIME has 2 aspects, OM LIGHT and OM SOUND. OM LIGHT divides itself into 8 light atoms that become the raw material for all visual forms. OM SOUND divides itself into 8 sound atoms that become the raw material for all aural forms. > >                                                                               " Yettin pirazhve navamenavagi " - Maamuni Mayan > The flipping or turning of 8 is nine.This combination of 8 units of Light and Sound form the 'Three Gunas' which then form the five elements or 'Pancha Bhutas'.The entire process unfolds a mathematical order which can be emulated for the upliftment of humanity.The individuals in the various Gotras of Vishwabrahmins use this mathematical order in their work to create objects, forms - art that has a definite frequency or vibration that emulates positive qualities of Brahmam. > >  Viswakarma the patron deity of Vishwabrahmins > Vishvakarma Or Vishwabrahmin (Sanskrit: विशà¥à¤µà¤•à¤° à¥à¤®à¤¾ viv�-karman " all-accomplishing; all-creator " ) is the Hindu presiding deity of all craftsmen and architects.TS 4.3.2), as per Vasishtha Purana 3.6.11 Vishwakarma has created 5 Brahmas from each of his 5 face, they are 1. Sanaga Brahma Rishi, 2. Sanaathana Brahma Rishi, 3. Abhuvanasa Brahma Rishi, 4. Prathnasa Brahma Rishi, 5. Suparnasa Brahma Rishi, in later mythology sometimes identified with Tvastr, he is the divine craftsman of the whole Universe (RV 10.81.3), and the builder of all the gods' palaces. > Vishwakarma is also the designer of all the flying chariots of the gods, and all their weapons or divine attributes. He is said to have revealed the Sthapatyaveda or fourth Upa-veda, and presides over the sixty-four mechanical arts; in the Vedic mythology, however, the office of " Indian Vulcan " is assigned to Tvastr as a distinct deity, Vishva-karman being rather identified with Prajapati himself as the creator of all things and architect of the Universe; in the hymns RV 10.81 and 10.82 he is represented as the universal Father and Generator, the one all-seeing God, who has on every side eyes, faces, arms, and feet; in the Brahmanas he is called a son of Bhuvana, and Vishva-karman Bhauvana is described as the author of the two hymns mentioned above. > > This being so, your query for the number of threads, Vishwabrahmins wear set of 5 which represents the 5 faces of Vishwakarma. Sanaga Maharishi has Rg Veda and thus the Upakramam for this is over(15th itself). If you are not wearing the Panchal/Poonal/ Punalik/Yajnopav eetha then first get initiated into the rites and customs of your community, through a known priest and follow the Niyamas which I gave in my earlier posting. > Aano Bhadraaha Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathaha! > Only see the light, > Shreeram Balijepalli > >  >  > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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