Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I am really having trouble sleeping. I know the problem lies within me and so does the solution. Maybe someone knows how to raise the solution buried in thoughts and vagaries of my mind. I have read quite a few of the postings in our group, meditation, prayer. But can't let my mind stop the non-stop action and most often on nonsensical things, like yesterday night I was replaying American Idol... and I am judging them. I think about things to do, not do my badminton game, my daughters Asthmatic symptoms,my wife, mother, sister,how I am not being spiritual enough. Thankfully I think I don't have alrming personal problems but it is non stop.... If i direct it to something say pleasant memories like my trips to my village paddy and sugar cane fields again mind wanders I think about my mother and how she struggled with us and again needs something else by the end I am exhausted...I pray(I think i do) as a habit. Whom do i Pray? I have the photos of all the deities, whom do I choose ? I like Anjaneya, Shiva, Vishnu,Dattatreya, Vigneshwara, Devi, Sai and the list goes on. Whom should I focus. I recite a small mantra for each as a habit... in the morning evening and night. How can I meditate when my mind is a rat. What to do? still thinking, still wandering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear Pulsaniji, This is a pure symptom of Kethu-graha playing havoc in your mentl life and gone awry. Over-active mind is a symptom of this psychic planet. You can do Kethu mantra or Ganesha Mantra to keep calm. Ofcourse you can try all what the other members said too like 1. Meditation(Which you are already doing) 2. I have a death meditation which I will later share, which will help you get over your over-active mind and nerves. 3. Patanjali Yoga sutras are fine but require lot of initial shuddham by way of Hathayoga and a pollution-free environment.It was written a longtime ago when conditions were ideal. 4. Aroma Therapy as suggested by one member would definitely help.I would also suggest Bach flower remedies. Remove all those photos and deities from your puja room and concetrate solely on one God.I had written many postings on the confusion arising out of multiplicity of paths. Remember this, this is not your only life(Many youngsters say to me: " After all this is the only life I have, so enjoy enjoy enjoy " )You had many past lives and will have future lives too based on your current vasanas and karmas.So have patience, dont get personal towards anything.Everything is going to perish one day--You,me,etc. God has all the time--Infinite patience as he is defined. Your athma is nothing but a representation of that Universal soul and thus it too has patience.Do sins--be born in lower evolutions, Do Punyas--be born in higher wombs.To put it simply, without going into granularity as to what is sin and what is punya! Look not above, there is no answer there; Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer; Near is as near to God as any Far, And Here is just the same deceit as There. And do you think that unto such as you; A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew: God gave the secret, and denied it me?-- Well, well, what matters it! Believe that, too. Your mind seems to be 1. Judgemental--Leave it all to one single source of divnity, not a hundred photos in the puja room. 2. Not staying in the now---Stay in the now.Concentrate on what you are doing at that moment to cut the mind from going round and round.It might be as simple as dipping a tea-bag into a cup of hot water.The moment you focus on the NOW, then these thoughts vanish. 3.Keeping it in the mind and worrying about it--Writing a list helps as one member put it but also write the solution next to it.Eachtime your mind comes across that problem see the solution and keep the paper down.But this is only a mediocre technique as the mind wont keep calm. Consider your family, relationships,your work life, your health,etc as something like a " Rail-sneha " I say this often to people What is " Rail-sneha " ? In a train in India, especially, you meet some passenger siting opposite to you and you talk to him,especially on a long journey(These days with buscuit bandits people keep their mouths shut, but anyways!), you open up and then you share some food or some jokes as some even tell their close secrets(what the heck!!--some think---sharing a secret releases some tension and there is some psychologicl kick and relief in releasing some inner secret to an absolute stranger) and then your station comes.You bid goodbye to him and then get down that station.You forget all about that passenger and the passenger forgets all about him.(Unless it is the case of a young unmarried man who meets a beautiful young woman-----you know then where the young man would take it, say---> from a cellphone number!) Your life is like this--What you think are permanent are not.You live with your family, with a certain skin colour,body,profession,etc this birth and next birth you are placed in some other country too.No one knows. So, as long as you are in this train compartment enjoy the ride! But make sure you get down the next station with lot of punyas and less of paapas so that your next journey can be even more fun! So long my friend, Shreeram Balijepalli P.S. Turn inward for solutions always, then outward. Shaktheyem , Venkat Pulsani <vpulsani wrote: > > I am really having trouble sleeping. I know the problem lies within me and so does the solution. Maybe someone knows how to raise the solution buried in thoughts and vagaries of my mind. I have read quite a few of the postings in our group, meditation, prayer. But can't let my mind stop the non-stop action and most often on nonsensical things, like yesterday night I was replaying American Idol... and I am judging them. > I think about things to do, not do my badminton game, my daughters Asthmatic symptoms,my wife, mother, sister,how I am not being spiritual enough. Thankfully I think I don't have alrming personal problems but it is non stop.... If i direct it to something say pleasant memories like my trips to my village paddy and sugar cane fields again mind wanders I think about my mother and how she struggled with us and again needs something else by the end I am exhausted... > I pray(I think i do) as a habit. Whom do i Pray? I have the photos of all the deities, whom do I choose ? I like Anjaneya, Shiva, Vishnu,Dattatreya, Vigneshwara, Devi, Sai and the list goes on. Whom should I focus. I recite a small mantra for each as a habit... in the morning evening and night. How can I meditate when my mind is a rat. What to do? still thinking, still wandering... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thank you Dear Shreeram, Prema and Stacy. This all started since the last 2 to 3 months. Yes, I can see I am not concentrating just on what I am doing now/present. I would have to admit this might have risen due to not being busy at work for the last few months(between project phases), which caused endless hours on the internet reading news, sports, deals,wikipedia. Thankfully nothing I would be shameful but mind burdening. I realized I am checking my personal e-mails every 10 minutes due to boredom... Yesterday after posting to the group I read Shreeram's old message on meditation and I tried to focus on my breath. After a little while I realized that I was focusing so hard, my attention was on the breath in, pause,breath out and was tuning to the sound of air in and air out through my allergy blocked nostrils.Then I was tuning in to the rhythmic raising and lowering of the chest for a long time. Just when I thought was dozing in there seems to be this sergeant inside who is prodding me and wants me to, wake up... I don't know if I am suppressing anything, which is causing to manifest this way. I know at the bottom of the heart there is this deep desire to go back home(to India) show some happiness to my mother before she gets old and be there when she is. Free my self from this endless chasing and do something for my country. I contribute to(non boastfully stating) Pratham, udavum Karangal(thanks Shreeram) but still feel there is more I can do... I will end my missive here otherwise I could ramble forever. Dear Shreeram, which Ganesha mantra should I chant ? BTW when do you sleep most of your postings are after midnight? Shaktheyem , " para_anuloma " <para_anuloma wrote: > > > Dear Pulsaniji, > > This is a pure symptom of Kethu-graha playing havoc in your mentl life > and gone awry. > > Over-active mind is a symptom of this psychic planet. > > You can do Kethu mantra or Ganesha Mantra to keep calm. > > Ofcourse you can try all what the other members said too like > > 1. Meditation(Which you are already doing) > > 2. I have a death meditation which I will later share, which will help > you get over your over-active mind and nerves. > > 3. Patanjali Yoga sutras are fine but require lot of initial shuddham by > way of Hathayoga and a pollution-free environment.It was written a > longtime ago when conditions were ideal. > > 4. Aroma Therapy as suggested by one member would definitely help.I > would also suggest Bach flower remedies. > > Remove all those photos and deities from your puja room and concetrate > solely on one God.I had written many postings on the confusion arising > out of multiplicity of paths. > > Remember this, this is not your only life(Many youngsters say to me: > " After all this is the only life I have, so enjoy enjoy enjoy " )You had > many past lives and will have future lives too based on your current > vasanas and karmas.So have patience, dont get personal towards > anything.Everything is going to perish one day--You,me,etc. > > God has all the time--Infinite patience as he is defined. > > Your athma is nothing but a representation of that Universal soul and > thus it too has patience.Do sins--be born in lower evolutions, Do > Punyas--be born in higher wombs.To put it simply, without going into > granularity as to what is sin and what is punya! > > Look not above, there is no answer there; > Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer; > Near is as near to God as any Far, > And Here is just the same deceit as There. > > And do you think that unto such as you; > A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew: > God gave the secret, and denied it me?-- > Well, well, what matters it! Believe that, too. > > Your mind seems to be > > 1. Judgemental--Leave it all to one single source of divnity, not a > hundred photos in the puja room. > > 2. Not staying in the now---Stay in the now.Concentrate on what you are > doing at that moment to cut the mind from going round and round.It might > be as simple as dipping a tea-bag into a cup of hot water.The moment you > focus on the NOW, then these thoughts vanish. > > 3.Keeping it in the mind and worrying about it--Writing a list helps as > one member put it but also write the solution next to it.Eachtime your > mind comes across that problem see the solution and keep the paper > down.But this is only a mediocre technique as the mind wont keep calm. > > Consider your family, relationships,your work life, your health,etc as > something like a " Rail-sneha " > > I say this often to people > > What is " Rail-sneha " ? > > In a train in India, especially, you meet some passenger siting opposite > to you and you talk to him,especially on a long journey(These days with > buscuit bandits people keep their mouths shut, but anyways!), you open > up and then you share some food or some jokes as some even tell their > close secrets(what the heck!!--some think---sharing a secret releases > some tension and there is some psychologicl kick and relief in releasing > some inner secret to an absolute stranger) and then your station > comes.You bid goodbye to him and then get down that station.You forget > all about that passenger and the passenger forgets all about him.(Unless > it is the case of a young unmarried man who meets a beautiful young > woman-----you know then where the young man would take it, say---> > from a cellphone number!) > > Your life is like this--What you think are permanent are not.You live > with your family, with a certain skin colour,body,profession,etc this > birth and next birth you are placed in some other country too.No one > knows. > > So, as long as you are in this train compartment enjoy the ride! But > make sure you get down the next station with lot of punyas and less of > paapas so that your next journey can be even more fun! > > So long my friend, > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > P.S. Turn inward for solutions always, then outward. > > > > > > > Shaktheyem , Venkat Pulsani <vpulsani@> wrote: > > > > I am really having trouble sleeping. I know the problem lies within me > and so does the solution. Maybe someone knows how to raise the solution > buried in thoughts and vagaries of my mind. I have read quite a few of > the postings in our group, meditation, prayer. But can't let my mind > stop the non-stop action and most often on nonsensical things, like > yesterday night I was replaying American Idol... and I am judging them. > > I think about things to do, not do my badminton game, my daughters > Asthmatic symptoms,my wife, mother, sister,how I am not being spiritual > enough. Thankfully I think I don't have alrming personal problems but it > is non stop.... If i direct it to something say pleasant memories like > my trips to my village paddy and sugar cane fields again mind wanders I > think about my mother and how she struggled with us and again needs > something else by the end I am exhausted... > > I pray(I think i do) as a habit. Whom do i Pray? I have the photos of > all the deities, whom do I choose ? I like Anjaneya, Shiva, > Vishnu,Dattatreya, Vigneshwara, Devi, Sai and the list goes on. Whom > should I focus. I recite a small mantra for each as a habit... in the > morning evening and night. How can I meditate when my mind is a rat. > What to do? still thinking, still wandering... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear Pulsaniji, I normally give a Caevat that any and every meditational or Mantraic practice practice must be done under guidance or by initiation.This being so, the kind of meditation--observing your breath(kind of Vippasana meditation) is also to be done under the guidance of a Guru. Infact, for a restless mind, such type of meditation is not preferred.So is the case with Pranayama. Many people think breath-watch is a meditation which can be and should be done by restless minds but the end result is frustration. What you had was a simple information overload,coupled with a Kethu graha influence. Just repeat the name of " Ganesha " and do a " form meditation " .Each time your mind wanders, dont fight with it and make a big issue out of it.Gently, ever so gently bring it back to the form of Ganesha. Sometimes the mind would race disconnectedly but it is all natural.With due practice and cultivation, the mind can be brought under control and wonders can be achieved spiritually. Each time you are free in office, do this meditation.This will not only keep your mind free but also clear and spiritual. Do not jump from one meditative method to another.Stick to onething. Do not worry about supressions.The supressions would come out of its own accord and then vanish.Do not be carried away by psychoanalysts(Sigmund Frued) etal, who know very little about RajaYoga meditation and who make moutains out of mere molehills. If your heart desires to be in India with your mother, make arrangements for it financially and see to it you do not later regret it.Mind is a monkey. If you want to bring your mother, bring her.I would say, do stay with her at this age and serve her.You wont be given another chance. If money is a criterion and you need to stay in a job in USA or abroad, stay.Your mother would be happy that you came to see her but then would be sorry to see you suffering for her sake.Take leave or the like and go and see her, talk to her often over the phone, if possible bring her on travel visa and the like. If you really want to stay with your mother, quit whatever you are doing and go back to India and be with her without looking back. It is all very simple, dont fret and fume inside. ---- Yours Yogically, Shreeram P.S. I type these postings from different time zones in different months, so no one really knows which time I type! It is hard to trace too as I use a cover for my IPAddress too to not attract undue attention. For example:If I typed a post from Winnipeg, it would be Central Time. If from Montreal-Toronto-Rochester-NY region it is EST.If from Chennai, it is IST.If from my relatives home in California, it is Pacific time. So it is all your time zone which is important, from which you see and see my postings in late timings.Also, my IPAddress track-cover produces random timings, so it really compounds the matter. Anyways, I get good sleep.Infact, I deem around 8 to 9 hours sleep necessary.And maybe an afternoon siesta too (1/2 hour) essential to keep my brain and body functioning properly.Even in my office, I take my lunch outside and sleep keeping my alarmclockwatch for around an halfhour nap(Now this is a secret between me and you, Hehe!). If you really want to relax, sleep.Meditation is to be done for a mind which is fresh not fatigued! Shaktheyem , " vpulsani " <vpulsani wrote: > > Thank you Dear Shreeram, Prema and Stacy. This all started since the last 2 to 3 months. Yes, I can see I am not concentrating just on what I am doing now/present. I would have to admit this might have risen due to not being busy at work for the last few months(between project phases), which caused endless hours on the internet reading news, sports, deals,wikipedia. Thankfully nothing I would be shameful but mind burdening. I realized I am checking my personal e-mails every 10 minutes due to boredom... > Yesterday after posting to the group I read Shreeram's old message on meditation and I tried to focus on my breath. After a little while I realized that I was focusing so hard, my attention was on the breath in, pause,breath out and was tuning to the sound of air in and air out > through my allergy blocked nostrils.Then I was tuning in to the rhythmic raising and lowering of the chest for a long time. > Just when I thought was dozing in there seems to be this sergeant inside who is prodding me and wants me to, wake up... > I don't know if I am suppressing anything, which is causing to manifest this way. I know at the bottom of the heart there is this deep desire to go back home(to India) show some happiness to my mother before she gets old and be there when she is. Free my self from this endless chasing and do something for my country. I contribute to(non boastfully stating) Pratham, udavum Karangal(thanks Shreeram) but still feel there is more I can do... > > I will end my missive here otherwise I could ramble forever. Dear Shreeram, which Ganesha mantra should I chant ? BTW when do you sleep most of your postings are after midnight? > > > > > > Shaktheyem , " para_anuloma " para_anuloma@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pulsaniji, > > > > This is a pure symptom of Kethu-graha playing havoc in your mentl life > > and gone awry. > > > > Over-active mind is a symptom of this psychic planet. > > > > You can do Kethu mantra or Ganesha Mantra to keep calm. > > > > Ofcourse you can try all what the other members said too like > > > > 1. Meditation(Which you are already doing) > > > > 2. I have a death meditation which I will later share, which will help > > you get over your over-active mind and nerves. > > > > 3. Patanjali Yoga sutras are fine but require lot of initial shuddham by > > way of Hathayoga and a pollution-free environment.It was written a > > longtime ago when conditions were ideal. > > > > 4. Aroma Therapy as suggested by one member would definitely help.I > > would also suggest Bach flower remedies. > > > > Remove all those photos and deities from your puja room and concetrate > > solely on one God.I had written many postings on the confusion arising > > out of multiplicity of paths. > > > > Remember this, this is not your only life(Many youngsters say to me: > > " After all this is the only life I have, so enjoy enjoy enjoy " )You had > > many past lives and will have future lives too based on your current > > vasanas and karmas.So have patience, dont get personal towards > > anything.Everything is going to perish one day--You,me,etc. > > > > God has all the time--Infinite patience as he is defined. > > > > Your athma is nothing but a representation of that Universal soul and > > thus it too has patience.Do sins--be born in lower evolutions, Do > > Punyas--be born in higher wombs.To put it simply, without going into > > granularity as to what is sin and what is punya! > > > > Look not above, there is no answer there; > > Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer; > > Near is as near to God as any Far, > > And Here is just the same deceit as There. > > > > And do you think that unto such as you; > > A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew: > > God gave the secret, and denied it me?-- > > Well, well, what matters it! Believe that, too. > > > > Your mind seems to be > > > > 1. Judgemental--Leave it all to one single source of divnity, not a > > hundred photos in the puja room. > > > > 2. Not staying in the now---Stay in the now.Concentrate on what you are > > doing at that moment to cut the mind from going round and round.It might > > be as simple as dipping a tea-bag into a cup of hot water.The moment you > > focus on the NOW, then these thoughts vanish. > > > > 3.Keeping it in the mind and worrying about it--Writing a list helps as > > one member put it but also write the solution next to it.Eachtime your > > mind comes across that problem see the solution and keep the paper > > down.But this is only a mediocre technique as the mind wont keep calm. > > > > Consider your family, relationships,your work life, your health,etc as > > something like a " Rail-sneha " > > > > I say this often to people > > > > What is " Rail-sneha " ? > > > > In a train in India, especially, you meet some passenger siting opposite > > to you and you talk to him,especially on a long journey(These days with > > buscuit bandits people keep their mouths shut, but anyways!), you open > > up and then you share some food or some jokes as some even tell their > > close secrets(what the heck!!--some think---sharing a secret releases > > some tension and there is some psychologicl kick and relief in releasing > > some inner secret to an absolute stranger) and then your station > > comes.You bid goodbye to him and then get down that station.You forget > > all about that passenger and the passenger forgets all about him.(Unless > > it is the case of a young unmarried man who meets a beautiful young > > woman-----you know then where the young man would take it, say---> > > from a cellphone number!) > > > > Your life is like this--What you think are permanent are not.You live > > with your family, with a certain skin colour,body,profession,etc this > > birth and next birth you are placed in some other country too.No one > > knows. > > > > So, as long as you are in this train compartment enjoy the ride! But > > make sure you get down the next station with lot of punyas and less of > > paapas so that your next journey can be even more fun! > > > > So long my friend, > > > > Shreeram Balijepalli > > > > P.S. Turn inward for solutions always, then outward. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaktheyem , Venkat Pulsani <vpulsani@> wrote: > > > > > > I am really having trouble sleeping. I know the problem lies within me > > and so does the solution. Maybe someone knows how to raise the solution > > buried in thoughts and vagaries of my mind. I have read quite a few of > > the postings in our group, meditation, prayer. But can't let my mind > > stop the non-stop action and most often on nonsensical things, like > > yesterday night I was replaying American Idol... and I am judging them. > > > I think about things to do, not do my badminton game, my daughters > > Asthmatic symptoms,my wife, mother, sister,how I am not being spiritual > > enough. Thankfully I think I don't have alrming personal problems but it > > is non stop.... If i direct it to something say pleasant memories like > > my trips to my village paddy and sugar cane fields again mind wanders I > > think about my mother and how she struggled with us and again needs > > something else by the end I am exhausted... > > > I pray(I think i do) as a habit. Whom do i Pray? I have the photos of > > all the deities, whom do I choose ? I like Anjaneya, Shiva, > > Vishnu,Dattatreya, Vigneshwara, Devi, Sai and the list goes on. Whom > > should I focus. I recite a small mantra for each as a habit... in the > > morning evening and night. How can I meditate when my mind is a rat. > > What to do? still thinking, still wandering... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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