Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity...first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that "Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell?"(Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with "fake" people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of "fuck-off" is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a "woman" called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called "desires" I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a "correction disease" wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a "dreaded disease" in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type "postings for popularity" must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... 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Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 My dear Sureshwarji, I am elder to Shreeram much eler, I have been his friend for sometime now. The point of any forum or group on the internet does not in any words speak to accept anything, its a medium of communication! A rather simple medium at this! So my dear friend Sureshwar lets all share our views in humility and see the wonderful interactions taking place. I would definitely like to see your thoughts blooming! May Jagadambika bless you with peace and harmony! Vivek Shaktheyem , vijay bhaskar <vijaybhaskar81 wrote: > > Hi Sureshwar, > > Let us all try to have a decent forum and not to abuse each other. Lets be kind to others in words as well. > If you are really elder to Mr Shreeram, than it should reflect in your email, which i don't think so. > I'm shocked to see such a email, infact i'm not sure for what you have used such a sweet word. > > Apologies if i have said something wrong, wanted to convey my unhappiness. > > regards > Vijay > > > > > > ________________________________ > Group Owner <para_anuloma > shaktheyem <Shaktheyem >; dattaatreyem <Dattaatreyem > > Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 8:09:14 PM > [shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and Vaak > > > Hi Shreeram, > > WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity.. .first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... > > Sureshwar. > ________________________________ > > Dear Sureshwar, > > Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara.. > > Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. > > You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. > > I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. > > If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that " Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell? " (Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. > > We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with " fake " people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. > > Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of " fuck-off " is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a " woman " called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called " desires " > > I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. > > > Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. > > So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. > How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. > > However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything > > 1.Vayovriddha > 2.Gnyana vriddha > 3.Tapovriddha. > > Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. > > Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. > > Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). > > Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava ;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. > > Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. > > Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. > > I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. > > And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a " correction disease " wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a " dreaded disease " in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type " postings for popularity " must be punished ain't he? > > So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! > > Amba Bless you, > Shreeram Balijepalli > > Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! > Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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