Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi Sureshwar,Let us all try to have a decent forum and not to abuse each other. Lets be kind to others in words as well.If you are really elder to Mr Shreeram, than it should reflect in your email, which i don't think so.I'm shocked to see such a email, infact i'm not sure for what you have used such a sweet word.Apologies if i have said something wrong, wanted to convey my unhappiness.regardsVijay Group Owner <para_anulomashaktheyem <Shaktheyem >; dattaatreyem <Dattaatreyem >Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 8:09:14 PM[shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and Vaak Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity.. .first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age.....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that "Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell?"(Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with "fake" people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of "fuck-off" is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a "woman" called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called "desires" I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava ;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a "correction disease" wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a "dreaded disease" in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type "postings for popularity" must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Sureshwarji, It is really shocking to see you using such words..well Shreeram ji never uses such 'words' for anyone! And his 'harsh' words are anytime better than abuses and slangs! One doesn't have to be older by age to be respected.Whatever he does,does it for Mother and Her children's welfare.We are happy that he is there with us and thank Mother for the same. May Mother bless you. bharati On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM, vijay bhaskar <vijaybhaskar81 wrote: Hi Sureshwar,Let us all try to have a decent forum and not to abuse each other. Lets be kind to others in words as well.If you are really elder to Mr Shreeram, than it should reflect in your email, which i don't think so. I'm shocked to see such a email, infact i'm not sure for what you have used such a sweet word.Apologies if i have said something wrong, wanted to convey my unhappiness.regardsVijay Group Owner <para_anulomashaktheyem <Shaktheyem >; dattaatreyem <Dattaatreyem > Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 8:09:14 PM[shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and Vaak Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity.. .first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age.....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that " Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell? " (Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with " fake " people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of " fuck-off " is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a " woman " called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called " desires " I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava ;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a " correction disease " wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a " dreaded disease " in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type " postings for popularity " must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Sureshwarji, We all request not to place these type of words in this divine - shaktheyam, none of us have the jnana which Sri Shreeramji is having and he is blessed by Jnanaakshi Sri Rajarajeshwari and he is a divine yogi, we are not here to blame our brothers and sisters here, we are the children of Sri Lalithambika. As a light he is showing the way for us towards Amba, As i just wanted to convey my unhapiness this issue. Prasad --- On Thu, 23/7/09, bharati mamani <bharatim wrote: bharati mamani <bharatimRe: [shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and VaakShaktheyem Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 1:11 PM Sureshwarji, It is really shocking to see you using such words..well Shreeram ji never uses such 'words' for anyone! And his 'harsh' words are anytime better than abuses and slangs! One doesn't have to be older by age to be respected.Whatever he does,does it for Mother and Her children's welfare.We are happy that he is there with us and thank Mother for the same. May Mother bless you. bharati On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM, vijay bhaskar <vijaybhaskar81@ > wrote: Hi Sureshwar,Let us all try to have a decent forum and not to abuse each other. Lets be kind to others in words as well.If you are really elder to Mr Shreeram, than it should reflect in your email, which i don't think so.I'm shocked to see such a email, infact i'm not sure for what you have used such a sweet word.Apologies if i have said something wrong, wanted to convey my unhappiness.regardsVijay Group Owner <para_anuloma@ .ca>shaktheyem <Shaktheyem@gro ups.com>; dattaatreyem <Dattaatreyem>Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 8:09:14 PM[shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and Vaak Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity.. .first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age.....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that "Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell?"(Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with "fake" people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of "fuck-off" is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a "woman" called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called "desires" I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava ;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a "correction disease" wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a "dreaded disease" in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type "postings for popularity" must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 This is definitely no way to write in a forum which has been kept sacred and pure since many years, if you don't like what is being discussed or advised, you may very well leave this group. There is no place for people like you who does not know the importance of what Shreeramgaru is doing. What you and all of us are getting here for free and available at ease is a result a lot of accumulated good karmas from our past lives. These days there are so many people giving talks and boasting their intellect in spirituality but behind closed doors they know what they do and deep inside their dark souls they know where they stand and here we have someone who fries himself in flames of the most toughest sadhanas, secrets and yet considers himself to be less than a mustard seed, i say this not because he is my Gurubhai, this comes from my heart since i know Shreeram from many years now. May Amba bless you!NirajOn Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Group Owner <para_anuloma wrote: Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity...first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that " Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell? " (Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with " fake " people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of " fuck-off " is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a " woman " called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called " desires " I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a " correction disease " wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a " dreaded disease " in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type " postings for popularity " must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! 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Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I totally agree to what Niraj just said, If this person is not intrested in topics being discussed he should not be in this group in the very first place. I believe this place is so sacred and is for people who have thirst for knowledge and information about purity and divine. We are so thankful for ShreeRam Garru for sharing his knowledge with totall strangers like us. This group is so well built on trust and we all believe that we are related to one another as "Bhakthas of Jagadambha" . Lets make sure it is not contaminated by any kind of impurity. ShreeRam Garru : We all hold a great respect to you, and are extremly greatful in what you are doing. I would humbly request you to Please ignore such meaningless mails. Lets all keep the good working going.... Thank you. Sowmya. <nirajshirali wrote: Niraj Shirali <nirajshiraliRe: [shaktheyem] Vrudhatha, Vinaya, Vinamrata and VaakShaktheyem Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 7:45 AM This is definitely no way to write in a forum which has been kept sacred and pure since many years, if you don't like what is being discussed or advised, you may very well leave this group. There is no place for people like you who does not know the importance of what Shreeramgaru is doing.What you and all of us are getting here for free and available at ease is a result a lot of accumulated good karmas from our past lives. These days there are so many people giving talks and boasting their intellect in spirituality but behind closed doors they know what they do and deep inside their dark souls they know where they stand and here we have someone who fries himself in flames of the most toughest sadhanas, secrets and yet considers himself to be less than a mustard seed, i say this not because he is my Gurubhai, this comes from my heart since i know Shreeram from many years now.May Amba bless you!Niraj On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Group Owner <para_anuloma@ .ca> wrote: Hi Shreeram, WHo do you think you are to give advices and seek popularity.. .first learn to respect all...your postings are full of vanity and ego...u are not humble...you speka ahrsh words....isthis theyway?u ar enot an old man to give respect....u are less than many months my age....why shud i giv respect to you....just fuckoff... Sureshwar. Dear Sureshwar, Ah!What a beautiful name and what a real e-mail this is! It is the name of a disciple of Adi Shankara. Your email comes right after the Anger Management essay posting sent by me.Actually it was written by a Buddhist monk,I just did a cut-paste-copy job.Maybe you forgot the essence of what he was saying, but thats ok, you are right. You have a lot of anger and I love angry people because they are 'real' people.You have expressed your inner emotions boldly to me than fearing this idiot who types.You are right in your own way. I want to say just one thing: I have never asked you to respect me nor do I ask that from anyone.Infact very few people(maybe 3 to 5) from the group know me and have seen me once or twice.So there is no big deal.If I have conveyed that in any sense, I apologize for the same.Your email comes out of the blue reading some posting of mine and I dont even know who you are and why you are angry with me.But its ok, you are right. If it is mere envy or jealousy against me, then too you are justified in getting angry with me.Afterall, a young person like me should never speak but always hear what the 'elders' say.You are right on this count too.Its just that I get over-enthusiastic and try to over-do sometimes.My fear being that "Who cares for my Ma if I don't tell?"(Maybe this is the same call inside every devotee who tries to act smart and not cognize that it is Ma who runs the show in the first place).Afterall who should care? So, yes, you are right. We need people like you as you remain oddman out in this society which if filled with "fake" people who give artificial smiles while swearing inside. Yes, we need people like you and your abuse of "fuck-off" is really right and appropriate for this emotional idiot who e-scribes something for the sake of something or someone.Each time I interact with a "woman" called worldly Maya, Im verily doing that and producing more and more children called "desires" I will wait for many more years to become old and then gain respect from all as you hint.Yes, you are right here too. Upanishads say Mind is akin to a monkey , which has drunk the alcohol of pride and upon that deeply stung by the scorpion named jealousy ,it runs hither thither without its own knowledge of mind and senses. Where come such a mind be brought under control . How ? Mind itself is irrestive with pride and jealousy ,how can it stay calm and concentrated . Senses follow the mind and its desire , mind immerses itself into senses and its pleasure. So indriya jaya is very difficult. The only way one can begin is Vinaya [ humble attitude; humilty] only humble people can achieve great heights . Because they are not perturbed by the competition , they are confident of their capabilities and prepared for eventualities. How is vinaya obtained ? Vinaya has its root in the service of the elders , Vridhdha. However there are three types vriddhas according to Holy scriptures.Well it is mere commonsense Sureshwarji, Im not preaching you anything 1.Vayovriddha 2.Gnyana vriddha 3.Tapovriddha. Vayo vriddha are those who are elder in age ,they should be respected and served as you say.Even Lallu Prasad Yadav is old person and you would definitely gain lot of punya if you do Padaseva to him and do a padhuka puja, there is no doubt about this. Gnyana vriddha are those who have acquired immense knowledge ,these are also akin to old and elderly ,these should be served more so by one and all. Tapo vridhdha are those who spend their lives in severe austerities despite their day-to-day lives ,these are elevated more than old and elderly , they should be doubly served. Such attitude and inculcation of such values in ones life ensures vinaya and Vinamrata and also Indriya jaya(control of senses). Thus kings took care of sages and rishis and snatakas [fresh graduates from gurukula ] to keep their senses under control with Vinaya,Vinamrabhava ;fearing their Vaak-shakthi. Vaak however is the dominion of every humanbeing and these days Im sure anyone irrespective of age can pitch in their two cents.Maybe Im wrong and you being a few months elder to me is right. Where there is external Vaak--there is bound to be some ego and vanity.Without which Maya(remember the beautiful woman I mentioned supra?) cannot function properly.Unless the person drops dead and enters into Kaivalya. I normally learn things even from my 3 year old kid, whenever there is a chance.Maybe Im a fool and not humble as you putforth. And yes, this looks like a toungue-in-cheek email reply to your nice e-mail, but then remember 'external Vaak'? I suffer from a "correction disease" wherein I try to transmute anyone who throws vitriol on me to change me alchemically inside for the better.Maybe this is a "dreaded disease" in your eyes, but I can't help being happy in this disease.Afterall, a vanity and ego-ridden person who has nothing better to do but type "postings for popularity" must be punished ain't he? So the deal is struck here, I guess.Peace out! Amba Bless you, Shreeram Balijepalli Hreem Rajarajeshwari Paradevatha! Purity, Powers, Parabrahmam... -- Niraj See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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