Digest Number 450

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the clarification. Just to carry this discussion further; my

ishta Devi was Chotanikkara Bhagavati and after some time, my attention was

drawn to Jwalamalini (the name just had a very strong attraction for me) and

now it is Maatangi. I do not know how this shift happens or if it is in any

order. It just happens that just the utterance of the name by someone (in

the case of Maatangi, it was the name of my friends' secretary; a person who

I have not seen or met but just heard my friend ask for her on the

telephone) Just the utterance of the name sends me to raptures. I then

looked for the meaning and realised She is one of the Dasa Mahavidya and is

the tantric form of Saraswati. I am into music(www.bhaktimusic.com) and

Maatangi being the 'vaak devi' and also a patron of music, made my

attraction even more.

 

The Hanuman Chalisa always works for me. More than any other mantra or

chant. I also recite the Devi Khadgamala almost every day.

 

To elaborate on the blog at Sulekha, the various Gods and Godesses in the

Hindu Pantheon were given various levels of hierarchy; with Easwara

(probably not as another name of Lord Shiva, but as the Supreme Godhead,

genderless I presume) as at the top most tier and the grama/kula devata

being as in the immediate realm of pitrus. The analogy was if Easwara was

akin to the President, the grama/kula devata would compare to the Mayor or

the Village Panchayat Chief. If there is a problem, it would be better to

approach the Mayor or the village chief, who would immediately solve

problems on a day to day basis and is easily approachable with minimum

protocol; rather than try to pursue the President to solve your problems.

Even if you did want to reach the President, it would be easier to go to the

Mayor who would then approach the Senator and so on until it reached the

President. And in any case the President would have to rely on the same

chain in the downward direction to pass on a solution.

 

This seemed to me as a very workable (for want of a better word) proposition

to reach the Bindu of the Sri Chakra. So the question of whether the " adima'

status is the same as Kula status.

 

Nanda

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nanda Nayar wrote<<To elaborate on the blog at Sulekha, the various

Gods and Godesses in

the

Hindu Pantheon were given various levels of hierarchy; with Easwara

(probably not as another name of Lord Shiva, but as the Supreme

Godhead,

genderless I presume) as at the top most tier and the grama/kula

devata

being as in the immediate realm of pitrus. The analogy was if Easwara

was

akin to the President, the grama/kula devata would compare to the Mayor

or

the Village Panchayat Chief. If there is a problem, it would be better

to

approach the Mayor or the village chief, who would immediately solve

problems on a day to day basis and is easily approachable with minimum

protocol; rather than try to pursue the President to solve your

problems.

Even if you did want to reach the President, it would be easier to go

to the

Mayor who would then approach the Senator and so on until it reached

the

President. And in any case the President would have to rely on the

same

chain in the downward direction to pass on a solution.>>End quote.

 

This is the analogy given by many astrologers. Previously we were

asked to worship Hanuman for overcoming the so called ill effects of

Sani Dasa. But now they ask you to worship Saniswara directly.

 

To continue with the analogy, what happens if you are the favourite

son/daughter of the President. Everyone kowtows to you and you get

everything done. In fact they do even things which you have not asked

for.

 

Ramprasad Sen in one of his poems challenges Kala( Death) thus.

 

“Herald of Death, get hence! I am the son of the

Almighty Mother. Go, ask your Master how many like

me he has seized. I can be the death of Death, if I

remember the Almighty Mother's power.

 

PrasÄd says: Herald of Death, take heed what you

say to me! Fellow, in KÄlÄ«'s name I will bind you;

and when I smite you, who will save?â€

 

I consider myself to be the favorite son of MAA KAALI the ultimate

authority. So why should I bother about anyone else. Yes I do show

respect and reverence to all other Deities. But whatever I want MAA

gives me. I do not even have to ask. Mother knows what is good for me.

 

 

 

, " Nanda Nayar " <nanda.nayar

wrote:

>

> Thank you for the clarification. Just to carry this discussion

further; my

> ishta Devi was Chotanikkara Bhagavati and after some time, my

attention was

> drawn to Jwalamalini (the name just had a very strong attraction for

me) and

> now it is Maatangi. I do not know how this shift happens or if it

is in any

> order. It just happens that just the utterance of the name by

someone (in

> the case of Maatangi, it was the name of my friends' secretary; a

person who

> I have not seen or met but just heard my friend ask for her on the

> telephone) Just the utterance of the name sends me to raptures. I then

> looked for the meaning and realised She is one of the Dasa Mahavidya

and is

> the tantric form of Saraswati. I am into music(www.bhaktimusic.com) and

> Maatangi being the 'vaak devi' and also a patron of music, made my

> attraction even more.

>

> The Hanuman Chalisa always works for me. More than any other mantra or

> chant. I also recite the Devi Khadgamala almost every day.

>

> To elaborate on the blog at Sulekha, the various Gods and Godesses

in the

> Hindu Pantheon were given various levels of hierarchy; with Easwara

> (probably not as another name of Lord Shiva, but as the Supreme Godhead,

> genderless I presume) as at the top most tier and the grama/kula devata

> being as in the immediate realm of pitrus. The analogy was if

Easwara was

> akin to the President, the grama/kula devata would compare to the

Mayor or

> the Village Panchayat Chief. If there is a problem, it would be

better to

> approach the Mayor or the village chief, who would immediately solve

> problems on a day to day basis and is easily approachable with minimum

> protocol; rather than try to pursue the President to solve your

problems.

> Even if you did want to reach the President, it would be easier to

go to the

> Mayor who would then approach the Senator and so on until it reached the

> President. And in any case the President would have to rely on the same

> chain in the downward direction to pass on a solution.

>

> This seemed to me as a very workable (for want of a better word)

proposition

> to reach the Bindu of the Sri Chakra. So the question of whether the

" adima'

> status is the same as Kula status.

>

> Nanda

>

>

>