Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Sent to me by someone. Om Namo Narayan Were any of you given Lehyam before Deeksha ? Here is a thread dealing with this subject. 0- this is interesting but also scary if it is true. OM http://sunyata.blogsome.com/ June 6, 2007 Narcotics on Oneness University campus Filed under: thoughts, info As the shit begins to hit the ceiling of the Oneness University Dhyana Mandir, we realize that Vijay Kumar (aka Kalki Bhagavan aka Sri Bhagavan) is not an iota better than Sathya Sai Baba or the other megalomaniac freaks claiming to be divine: " They both said the same thing independently of each other: the " Oneness Lehyam " is narcotic substances (one said it sounded like a mixture of LSD, Ecstasy and Ayhuasca). I do not know what Lehyam is, but I know that when they stopped using Lehyam in the 21 days process, people no longer got any peak experiences. " - Freddie N. 6 Comments » The URI to TrackBack this entry is: http://sunyata.blogsome.com/2007/06/06/narcotics- on-oneness-university-campus/trackback/ We were given that lehyam in the fisrt processes of 21 days and we really had peak experiences after its process in the intestines. Now, they have stopped to give lehyam before the deekshas, so noone has any more peak experiences, they have psicotic experiences caused through extreme mind brainwashing.They say that that substance was to be eaten to clean the chakras before the deeksha was given. i still remember how the dasas placed buckets all around the rooms ,so that we could bring up that stuff.As with other psicoactiv drugs, once you bring it up ,it gets into the blood and then you think it is like the kundalini working, but actually is nothing but a drug that destroys your physical and subtel bodies.The man who shared the room with me nearly had a heart attack.It is a shame for India that such organizations and false gurus are still conning people over there just to give them drugs in the end of the processes.Western authorities should take legal steps against this clear unhealthy and dangerous groups which give drugs and abusive mind programmations to cheat people and ban them inmediatly. Comment by oswaldo — July 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am thanks, friend, for leaving a comment. Please ask others who have had similar experiences to leave a comment too. Perhaps then readers will start to believe what is happening. Comment by Administrator — July 9, 2007 @ 5:15 pm One my friend was a biggest devotee of Kalki and he had gone for the deeksha process in 2005. There they gave him lehyam and he could smell something wrong in it. Later he left the kalki cult. Comment by suruli rajan — July 22, 2007 @ 11:42 am Thank you Surali. There are very few people who actually share with others the truth of what happened and why they left. I keep meeting people regularly who have left the cult after deekshas and darshans. Most comments are from people who are still trying to find some excuse to justify what is happening. We need more people to come out and be heard. Comment by Administrator — July 22, 2007 @ 11:48 am I am someone who has been with the Kalki movement for more than 10 years. i see nothing wrong with this movement and i believe that this is the work that can help people across continents. people like you speak nonsense without knowing the truth. the states experience thro the deekshas are very genuine and deep and transformative too. there are no narcotics used in the processes. it is the pure energy of the divine consciousness. Comment by shivam — July 23, 2007 @ 11:17 am i attended the process and was sure I was drugged via lehyam.Infact I could not move my hands and legs and lay paralysed in bed forover45 minutes. Later I came to know that 3 devotees had died and then lehyam was discontinued. the matter was covered up as snakebite. One was the mother of a dasa. as the people involved were fanatical devotees, no police action was pursued. Comment by raji — August 9, 2007 @ 12:54 pm http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2005/Janneke.htm Messages in this t Ronald Fried USA Phone: (+1) 203 372 3772 USA Fax: (+1) 603 907 5647 USA Skype phone (+1) 203 987 5372 Germany cell phone: (+49) (0) 171 193 7455 Germany Skype phone: (+49) (0) 711 914 0626 Email: Sidha7001 Email: Sidha7001 Skype: Sidha7001 G <crystalkundalini Swami-G Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:35 pm [swami-G] Question for those having been to Kalki Om Namo Narayan Were any of you given Lehyam before Deeksha ? Here is a thread dealing with this subject. 0- this is interesting but also scary if it is true. OM http://sunyata.blogsome.com/ June 6, 2007 Narcotics on Oneness University campus Filed under: thoughts, info As the shit begins to hit the ceiling of the Oneness University Dhyana Mandir, we realize that Vijay Kumar (aka Kalki Bhagavan aka Sri Bhagavan) is not an iota better than Sathya Sai Baba or the other megalomaniac freaks claiming to be divine: " They both said the same thing independently of each other: the " Oneness Lehyam " is narcotic substances (one said it sounded like a mixture of LSD, Ecstasy and Ayhuasca). I do not know what Lehyam is, but I know that when they stopped using Lehyam in the 21 days process, people no longer got any peak experiences. " - Freddie N. 6 Comments » The URI to TrackBack this entry is: http://sunyata.blogsome.com/2007/06/06/narcotics- on-oneness-university-campus/trackback/ We were given that lehyam in the fisrt processes of 21 days and we really had peak experiences after its process in the intestines. Now, they have stopped to give lehyam before the deekshas, so noone has any more peak experiences, they have psicotic experiences caused through extreme mind brainwashing.They say that that substance was to be eaten to clean the chakras before the deeksha was given. i still remember how the dasas placed buckets all around the rooms ,so that we could bring up that stuff.As with other psicoactiv drugs, once you bring it up ,it gets into the blood and then you think it is like the kundalini working, but actually is nothing but a drug that destroys your physical and subtel bodies.The man who shared the room with me nearly had a heart attack.It is a shame for India that such organizations and false gurus are still conning people over there just to give them drugs in the end of the processes.Western authorities should take legal steps against this clear unhealthy and dangerous groups which give drugs and abusive mind programmations to cheat people and ban them inmediatly. Comment by oswaldo — July 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am thanks, friend, for leaving a comment. Please ask others who have had similar experiences to leave a comment too. Perhaps then readers will start to believe what is happening. Comment by Administrator — July 9, 2007 @ 5:15 pm One my friend was a biggest devotee of Kalki and he had gone for the deeksha process in 2005. There they gave him lehyam and he could smell something wrong in it. Later he left the kalki cult. Comment by suruli rajan — July 22, 2007 @ 11:42 am Thank you Surali. There are very few people who actually share with others the truth of what happened and why they left. I keep meeting people regularly who have left the cult after deekshas and darshans. Most comments are from people who are still trying to find some excuse to justify what is happening. We need more people to come out and be heard. Comment by Administrator — July 22, 2007 @ 11:48 am I am someone who has been with the Kalki movement for more than 10 years. i see nothing wrong with this movement and i believe that this is the work that can help people across continents. people like you speak nonsense without knowing the truth. the states experience thro the deekshas are very genuine and deep and transformative too. there are no narcotics used in the processes. it is the pure energy of the divine consciousness. Comment by shivam — July 23, 2007 @ 11:17 am i attended the process and was sure I was drugged via lehyam.Infact I could not move my hands and legs and lay paralysed in bed forover45 minutes. Later I came to know that 3 devotees had died and then lehyam was discontinued. the matter was covered up as snakebite. One was the mother of a dasa. as the people involved were fanatical devotees, no police action was pursued. Comment by raji — August 9, 2007 @ 12:54 pm http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2005/Janneke.htm Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release 8/25/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 nothing destroys subtle bodies... nothing can be created or destroys. entheogens have the capability to break down thought forms if ingested with consciousness and that aim in mind and heart and such has been the tradition among primal cultures for aeons. BUT: that being said: there are a lot of people pretending to be better than the Beatles. maybe i'll stop there. On 8/26/07, Kirk <kirk_bernhardt wrote: > > > Sent to me by someone. > > Om Namo Narayan > > Were any of you given Lehyam before Deeksha ? > > Here is a thread dealing with this subject. > > 0- this is interesting but also scary if it is true. > > OM > > http://sunyata.blogsome.com/ > > June 6, 2007 > Narcotics on Oneness University campus > Filed under: thoughts, info > As the shit begins to hit the ceiling of the Oneness University Dhyana > Mandir, we realize > that Vijay Kumar (aka Kalki Bhagavan aka Sri Bhagavan) is not an iota > better than Sathya > Sai Baba or the other megalomaniac freaks claiming to be divine: > > " They both said the same thing independently of each other: the " Oneness > Lehyam " is > narcotic substances (one said it sounded like a mixture of LSD, Ecstasy > and Ayhuasca). I do > not know what Lehyam is, but I know that when they stopped using Lehyam in > the 21 days > process, people no longer got any peak experiences. " - Freddie N. > > 6 Comments » > The URI to TrackBack this entry is: > http://sunyata.blogsome.com/2007/06/06/narcotics- > on-oneness-university-campus/trackback/ > > We were given that lehyam in the fisrt processes of 21 days and we really > had peak > experiences after its process in the intestines. Now, they have stopped to > give lehyam > before the deekshas, so noone has any more peak experiences, they have > psicotic > experiences caused through extreme mind brainwashing.They say that that > substance was > to be eaten to clean the chakras before the deeksha was given. i still > remember how the > dasas placed buckets all around the rooms ,so that we could bring up that > stuff.As with > other psicoactiv drugs, once you bring it up ,it gets into the blood and > then you think it is > like the kundalini working, but actually is nothing but a drug that > destroys your physical > and subtel bodies.The man who shared the room with me nearly had a heart > attack.It is a > shame for India that such organizations and false gurus are still conning > people over there > just to give them drugs in the end of the processes.Western authorities > should take legal > steps against this clear unhealthy and dangerous groups which give drugs > and abusive > mind programmations to cheat people and ban them inmediatly. > > Comment by oswaldo — July 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am > > thanks, friend, for leaving a comment. > Please ask others who have had similar experiences to leave a comment too. > Perhaps then readers will start to believe what is happening. > > Comment by Administrator — July 9, 2007 @ 5:15 pm > > One my friend was a biggest devotee of Kalki and he had gone for the > deeksha process in > 2005. There they gave him lehyam and he could smell something wrong in it. > Later he left > the kalki cult. > > Comment by suruli rajan — July 22, 2007 @ 11:42 am > > Thank you Surali. > There are very few people who actually share with others the truth of what > happened and > why they left. > > I keep meeting people regularly who have left the cult after deekshas and > darshans. > > Most comments are from people who are still trying to find some excuse to > justify what is > happening. > > We need more people to come out and be heard. > > Comment by Administrator — July 22, 2007 @ 11:48 am > > I am someone who has been with the Kalki movement for more than 10 years. > i see > nothing wrong with this movement and i believe that this is the work that > can help people > across continents. people like you speak nonsense without knowing the > truth. the states > experience thro the deekshas are very genuine and deep and transformative > too. there are > no narcotics used in the processes. it is the pure energy of the divine > consciousness. > > Comment by shivam — July 23, 2007 @ 11:17 am > > i attended the process and was sure I was drugged via lehyam.Infact I > could not move my > hands and legs and lay paralysed in bed forover45 minutes. Later I came to > know that 3 > devotees had died and then lehyam was discontinued. the matter was covered > up as > snakebite. One was the mother of a dasa. as the people involved were > fanatical devotees, > no police action was pursued. > > Comment by raji — August 9, 2007 @ 12:54 pm > > http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2005/Janneke.htm > > Messages in this t > > Ronald Fried > USA Phone: (+1) 203 372 3772 > USA Fax: (+1) 603 907 5647 > USA Skype phone (+1) 203 987 5372 > Germany cell phone: (+49) (0) 171 193 7455 > Germany Skype phone: (+49) (0) 711 914 0626 > Email: Sidha7001 <Sidha7001%40aol.com> > Email: Sidha7001 <Sidha7001%40> > Skype: Sidha7001 > > > G <crystalkundalini <crystalkundalini%40hotmail.com>> > Swami-G <Swami-G%40> > Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:35 pm > [swami-G] Question for those having been to Kalki > > Om Namo Narayan > > Were any of you given Lehyam before Deeksha ? > > Here is a thread dealing with this subject. > > 0- this is interesting but also scary if it is true. > > OM > > http://sunyata.blogsome.com/ > > June 6, 2007 > Narcotics on Oneness University campus > Filed under: thoughts, info > As the shit begins to hit the ceiling of the Oneness University Dhyana > Mandir, we realize > that Vijay Kumar (aka Kalki Bhagavan aka Sri Bhagavan) is not an iota > better than Sathya > Sai Baba or the other megalomaniac freaks claiming to be divine: > > " They both said the same thing independently of each other: the " Oneness > Lehyam " is > narcotic substances (one said it sounded like a mixture of LSD, Ecstasy > and Ayhuasca). I do > not know what Lehyam is, but I know that when they stopped using Lehyam in > the 21 days > process, people no longer got any peak experiences. " - Freddie N. > > 6 Comments » > The URI to TrackBack this entry is: > http://sunyata.blogsome.com/2007/06/06/narcotics- > on-oneness-university-campus/trackback/ > > We were given that lehyam in the fisrt processes of 21 days and we really > had peak > experiences after its process in the intestines. Now, they have stopped to > give lehyam > before the deekshas, so noone has any more peak experiences, they have > psicotic > experiences caused through extreme mind brainwashing.They say that that > substance was > to be eaten to clean the chakras before the deeksha was given. i still > remember how the > dasas placed buckets all around the rooms ,so that we could bring up that > stuff.As with > other psicoactiv drugs, once you bring it up ,it gets into the blood and > then you think it is > like the kundalini working, but actually is nothing but a drug that > destroys your physical > and subtel bodies.The man who shared the room with me nearly had a heart > attack.It is a > shame for India that such organizations and false gurus are still conning > people over there > just to give them drugs in the end of the processes.Western authorities > should take legal > steps against this clear unhealthy and dangerous groups which give drugs > and abusive > mind programmations to cheat people and ban them inmediatly. > > Comment by oswaldo — July 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am > > thanks, friend, for leaving a comment. > Please ask others who have had similar experiences to leave a comment too. > Perhaps then readers will start to believe what is happening. > > Comment by Administrator — July 9, 2007 @ 5:15 pm > > One my friend was a biggest devotee of Kalki and he had gone for the > deeksha process in > 2005. There they gave him lehyam and he could smell something wrong in it. > Later he left > the kalki cult. > > Comment by suruli rajan — July 22, 2007 @ 11:42 am > > Thank you Surali. > There are very few people who actually share with others the truth of what > happened and > why they left. > > I keep meeting people regularly who have left the cult after deekshas and > darshans. > > Most comments are from people who are still trying to find some excuse to > justify what is > happening. > > We need more people to come out and be heard. > > Comment by Administrator — July 22, 2007 @ 11:48 am > > I am someone who has been with the Kalki movement for more than 10 years. > i see > nothing wrong with this movement and i believe that this is the work that > can help people > across continents. people like you speak nonsense without knowing the > truth. the states > experience thro the deekshas are very genuine and deep and transformative > too. there are > no narcotics used in the processes. it is the pure energy of the divine > consciousness. > > Comment by shivam — July 23, 2007 @ 11:17 am > > i attended the process and was sure I was drugged via lehyam.Infact I > could not move my > hands and legs and lay paralysed in bed forover45 minutes. Later I came to > know that 3 > devotees had died and then lehyam was discontinued. the matter was covered > up as > snakebite. One was the mother of a dasa. as the people involved were > fanatical devotees, > no police action was pursued. > > Comment by raji — August 9, 2007 @ 12:54 pm > > http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2005/Janneke.htm > > > > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release 8/25/2007 > 5:00 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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