What is this ........ initiation?

September 18, 2007

[Moderator's Note: Subject line edited to remove an off-color Tamil word]

What is initiation? Can man give true initiation? Only god can give

full initiation. Man can only pretend to give initiation.

God is seated inside all. It is like the sun. Anyone who want

sincerely can get this grace. This grace is the initiation. It is

called 'dikshai'.

We can share the path with someone. Does it make us become God? No,

we are human only.

Is being human lesser than being divine? Truly the conscience in

oneself is the path to Iraivan (god). It is that which makes us

slight and hurt others. But when ourself are hurt with the same

medicine, retaliate thereof. Without the burning of anavam (selfish

ego), can one get this dikshai?

Dikshai (diksha) means 'dakshinatil samirpanam'. It means one to

enter the moolam in the south (dak or terk) and reaching Sindhu (top

of head or uttara) through OM (kundalini). It is for this reason also

Kali is known as Dakshina or Uttara Kali.

South is symbolized as down, north as upwards by the knowers. As such

when receiving in priestly fees, they call this 'dakshina' also. It

is to show the hand which receives to be lower than that which gives.

It shows the spirit of humility.

Diksha by Iraivan is known as Arul. Diksha by humans or others is

partial only. It is a push on the path. However so it can be quite

subjective. Only oneself can be the judge if one has benefitted. Can

others do it for us?

What I have said is the truth only. It is for this reason alone that

none have got mukthi even after dikshai by human hands. But it is a

push. If all could get mukthi with a touch of the hand, then what is

the point of following the path anymore? What is the point of doing

dhyanam, sadhana, practice bhakti etc?

However so the little push also can go a long way. As such it should

not be belittled.

The problem is whether the hand which gives is the true hand?

How do we judge? Is it by seeing the following of the person, the

ranks, etc? No, it is by judging the actions only.

If I say an object is very hot - almost boiling, how are we going to

know this fact? Is it by saying that this object has the word 'hot'

written in it, therefore it is hot? Or that this object is red in

color, therefore it is hot? Is this the way? Only if I touch it, take

its temperature or pour ice on it I will know.

Likewise also how can I know if the guru is genuine? Is it because he

has a big following? Is it because he has a beard, wears tilak and

acts holy? Or is it because the guru says so? Please think on this.

The dikshai by humans are known as Perul. Those by beings who have

once walked the earth is Marul. These words are just symbolizations.

It is pointing towards the category.

But it is the mind which determines the thing. When we are asleep and

the mind has subsided in the moolam where one enters layam (unaware),

can anything be learnt? Can we know the teacher, the enemy etc?

Nothing can be known. We are as good as dead.

The quest in the path is to realize ourselves as what we are truly.

That means we get the knowledge of being the atma alone. We are atma

only. This we can experience by only entering into OM. It is here

where the Mayai moves. It is where Vidyai dawns.

We are tied with this jadam (material atoms)by the decree of Iraivan.

None can choose to be born as man, woman, this or that. It is the

work of something they call god. Different people have called it with

different names. Jadam behaves deterministically. It is only the atma

which wills. Only Iraivan contains all. As such it knows everything

spontaneously. Whereas we have to use the buddhi to think about

something. If someone who attains jnanam knows everything then most

saints would have known things like Einstein or Newton.

We have seen tsunamis and hurricanes. Many die in this. Some say it

is their karma. But man by use of buddhi, studying nature and

improving logistics, better warning system, will come to a better

understanding of these disasters and thereby save more people in the

future. As such man can reduce the suffering of others by the use of

his buddhi, following the conscience and hanving compassion.

Like this also man can know the Iraivan. It is for this reason that

the siddhars have made idols of Iraivan in human form.

To become realized, everyone starts from ignorance only. The way to

it is three fold. It is sadhanai (sadhana), mananam (reflection of

one's actions and deeds) and following one's manasatchi (conscience).

This is the trident Kali holds. Everyone who is born as human

deserves to be born as human. But as human we can know the Iraivan,

but we cannot become like the Iraivan.

The true guru teaches independence to the students,

It doesn't teach dependence to the guru,

Love has meaning when there is independence,

Relying on a thing which has strength independently,we could hold on

to it.

Relying on the dependent thing, we ourselves will fall when it falls.

The way of Shakti is the strength. Shakti means power. Have Shakti to

face the truth, to follow the conscience and to follow one's

convictions. Rather than this have Shakti to hold on to one's

principles, even if it wrong. Then Kala (time) itself will give us

the deserving lesson and we can go beyond time (Kali).

The end

September 18, 2007

I object to the word - God - as it seems like something with some form which

people can explicitly state they know and can describe, now if that were

true then people would agree on something but the simple fact is that god is

either everything or nothing, and in either case there is nothing outside of

that range, so people need to simmer down and feel it more and spread out

their spaciousness to encompass others, or else their god is really just a

hinderance. If we recognized god as it were we would not speak of