god as sakthi

[Guest guest]

In spirituality the worship of shakti is embodied by the principle of

worshipping God as our own Mother and the Mother Of The Universe

(Jagad Matha). God is endowed with motherly attributes. She loves;

she is caring, tender, protective and nursing. Some people worship

shakti as a wife or sex partner. They quote tantric texts for this

matter. There are some people who think that tantra is associated

with sex and the black magic only. They are wrong. It is because

orgasm is the highest blissful experience that most people can

attain. But god experience or bhava is the highest blissful state we

can attain. Nothing can beat it. Happiness and bliss arising from

our materialistic goals being fulfilled is nowhere compared to it.

No amount of wealth, fame, social standing, PhD's or Masters can give

us this pleasure. Sexual orgasm and the euphoria from ingesting

narcotics, alcohol or psychedelics are in nowhere comparable to this

bliss. It has to be experienced. And to experience it we have to put

some effort. This is sadhana.

 

Shakti has no gender in truth. It is not female. It is because of

its attributes that it is associated with the fairer sex. Another

reason is because our jeevan (atma/soul) is usually associated with

Sivan and our pervading consciousness (intelligence, ego, desires and

awareness) is associated with `sath' or Shakti.

 

The attraction between jeevan and sath is usually explained or

illustrated as an attraction between a man and woman. As both jeevan

and sath are inseparable, they are depicted as the ideal husband and

wife. If our atma or jeevan leaves the body, are we aware of

anything? Can the body talk or think. Can it wake up even if our

nearest and dearest wail in sorrow? Our body is than deemed as a

corpse (bredham) by others and buried. That is why jeevan and sath

are said to be inseparable. It is compared to a husband and wife

because the pure love between couples is the highest attraction in

the world. Being married is the couple's way of showing unity and

their pledge to be together for a lifetime. But the atma and its

shakti are inseparable forever. So the closest relationship on earth

which can resemble atma and shakti is the ideal married couple.

 

The jeevan as Sivan is male and sath as Shakti is female. But in

truth Sivan and Sakthi does not denote gender. They exist in every

human being as their own atma and atma sakthi (AT) sath (DOT) Even in the

material world when there is no thing as sex upon scrutiny. It is our

association of sexual feelings with gender. Sometimes we just react

to biological impulses. But this is not our true nature. Those who

are married and inquisitive will know that the sexual bliss is devoid

of gender. Sexual orgasm doesn't have a gender. You can awake

sexuality without associating it with the opposite sex's form even

though the norm is such. We should marry someone out of love and not

lust. Without knowing this, sexual orgasm without love doesn't seem

fulfilling and as such most feel empty after sex. We are still stuck

with associating sex with gender and thus always remain at

the `species propagation' level of orgasm which isn't satisfying. So

they say marriage `sucks' or start having affair. They drift from

affair to affair ending up in the same state. But this is not a call

or an advocacy for homosexuality. It is a matter of personal choice

and personal risks, as any relationship involves risks.

 

Illustrations and analogies are conceived to convey ideas. Let us

take an example. Suppose that we are to explain the state of

drunkenness to a child. How do you explain how does it feel to be

drunk to a 6 year old child. Suppose the child is pestering you to

explain. Probably you would say that it feels so happy like eating a

chocolate. You use this explanation to clear off the child's doubt.

The child also happily walks away imagining that a drunk experiences

the same state of delirious happiness it experiences while munching a

chocolate. But we know that the happiness or more correctly

the `high' of alcohol intoxication is totally unrelated

to `deliriously happy chocolate munching'. The child will really

understand this state when he grows up and sips whisky or guzzles

beer (hopefully without becoming an alcoholic). You can't feed him

alcohol when he is a babe and get him experience the `high' just

because he is asking. He might suffer serious complications and you

might well end up behind bars! Like this aphorism the jnanis

(enlightened beings) and siddhas (perfected beings) explain the state

of jeevan and sath to the uninitiated. That is why in Tamil there is

a saying `sathu poitan' to express that a person has passed away.

Over time this saying has become corrupted and nowadays people

say `sethu poitan'. `Sathu poitan' means; sath = shakti, poitan =

left/gone away; the sath of a person has left.

 

There is another state similar to death and that is sleep. In sleep

the person is unaware of the surrounding but still aware of his or

her mind through dreams. But in total deep sleep, there is a total

unawareness. Nobody can say what has happened in deep sleep. However

as the sath of the person is still in the body he can still be woken

up unlike a dead person.

 

Our sath joins with our jeevan and then we will lapse into sleep

unaware of our surroundings, desires and aspirations. We don't even

know if our enemy comes nearby. This state has come to be known

as `mudevi' in Tamil. `Mudevi' means sath or shakti which is also

known as devi (goddess/shakti) is abiding in the `moolam'. `Moolam'

is the outer veil of jeevan. The term `outer veil' is used because

we haven't experience the jeevan yet through our sath. If our sath

merges fully in jeevan, thus resembling the union of Sivan and Shakti

we have already reached enlightenment. But even the outer veil gives

so much joy that every person will feel blissful after a goodnight's

sleep and will get angry if you disrupt their deep sleep. Deep sleep

is a natural state for every living being. `Mooletil vasikire devi'

or the devi abiding in moolam has thus become known as `mudevi'.

That is all. However so, the sath doesn't know what it has

experienced in deep sleep and thus comes out unenlightened. It is

difficult for a hyperactive mind to fall asleep. It will just

experience nightmares if its thought is filled with anguish. When we

are awake it is said as `sri devi'. Sri means shining, bright or

splendor. What is actually meant is that our shakti is shining forth

as consciousness. The awareness of our surroundings is `sri'. With

this we can `shine' forth in activity like thinking, talking,

walking, working, pursuing our goals etc. A man in deep sleep can't

do all this.

 

The primary worship of Shakti is stressed because without `her' we

can't do our mental and physical activities. How can you read this

book without the mind? How can I write it? We just become like a

dead man. We can't even pursue our higher purpose of religious or

spiritual undertakings without Her. Can a man in deep sleep pray,

read religious scriptures or meditate? We will only exist as an

inanimate thing without Her.

 

That is why She is important. The sath inside us and inside everyone

else is embodied as God our mother and worshipped. She also pervades

the whole material universe and its energies. Thus she is the animate

and inanimate. She is the life and the lifeless. She is the rock and

the man. Even though she is the sath inside us she also exists

outside us as God the Mother and will respond to our prayer. The one

who is infinitely larger than the universe occupies the limited space

in the form of sacred altar or the pedestal for the sake of the

devotees to be worshipped. Wherever she is worshipped with an

innocence of a child she will be there. God has assumed the form of

Devi to be worshipped.

[Guest guest]

-----Well, okay, I go to the easily obtained 'Lakshmi Tantra' for simple

basic tenets like 'What is Tantra?' For instance, or for other questions

like, 'How is Shakti Devi to be related to?' In which case it is how She

comes to one. She can come in any number of ways in which one could have

ordinary relations with Her. As indeed there is no difference really.

 

Now for a message really of basic import from tantra in general, as all

awarenesses are purusha or indestructible bindu - Krishna, all awarenesses

also are prakriti and both are forever wed, so we are a male female

compliment all of us, within ourselves and this perfection is the yantra of

ones chosen deity which is exactly identical with their path which is their

sadhana is fulfilling the samayas or promises made to their lineage or

nonlineage as the case may be. One must be careful when making vows even to

new lineages gurus as it is still an adamantine sort of relationship to

chose a guru.

 

But the point of tantra is this - one will choose their deity or vice versa

based on what qualities of the deity mandala compliment them and harmonize

their existance, such that usually for women they will see the world as a

male and themself as female, thus phenomena will be seen as ideally

masculine wisdom, whereas for most men the world will be as feminine deity

and thus feminine wisdom while they are masculine. The whole idea being not

split into duality of sexuality but unity of inseperability of subject and

object in a love relationship which exhausts karma through frictionless

inseparability of spontaneous Shiva/Shakti.

 

Tantrics proper see God/dess as the path not so much as something somewhere.

You may disagree but you may only do so to the limit of your awareness of

The Way. The Way which you acting as the deity's mandala have developed.

 

I am mixing Buddhist and Hindu tantric phenomenology but I am still making a

clear point which works in both systems. The Tantrik proper sees the

phenomanological world as their sexual compliment. this is why people think

it's all about sex. But it's about how one has developed relationship with

their partner more than anything else. And probably technically speaking,

upon their nakshatra of their lagna and chandra.

 

By the way, I am fashioning yoni bases for Shiva lingas again if anyone

wants to buy one. I use to sell them through Rudra center for awhile. I am

Bharni nakshatra so who better to fashion them.

 

 

 

 

-

" sashimha " <sashimha

 

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:50 AM

god as sakthi

 

 

> In spirituality the worship of shakti is embodied by the principle of

> worshipping God as our own Mother and the Mother Of The Universe

> (Jagad Matha). God is endowed with motherly attributes. She loves;

> she is caring, tender, protective and nursing. Some people worship

> shakti as a wife or sex partner. They quote tantric texts for this

> matter. There are some people who think that tantra is associated

> with sex and the black magic only. They are wrong. It is because

> orgasm is the highest blissful experience that most people can

> attain. But god experience or bhava is the highest blissful state we

> can attain. Nothing can beat it. Happiness and bliss arising from

> our materialistic goals being fulfilled is nowhere compared to it.

> No amount of wealth, fame, social standing, PhD's or Masters can give

> us this pleasure. Sexual orgasm and the euphoria from ingesting

> narcotics, alcohol or psychedelics are in nowhere comparable to this

> bliss. It has to be experienced. And to experience it we have to put

> some effort. This is sadhana.

>

[Guest guest]

only that the creative intelligence is not NEITHER male nor female,

but both. the impersonalist view is of course to negate the material world.

 

they say 'aham brahmasmi' but in fact the material world

is a great creation of magna deum mater who is the shakty. that was well

put out.

blessed be.

[Guest guest]

Try Sarvam khallwidam brahma

-- In , " mikal haley "

<chipsterthehipster wrote:

>

> only that the creative intelligence is not NEITHER male nor female,

> but both. the impersonalist view is of course to negate the

material world.

>

> they say 'aham brahmasmi' but in fact the material world

> is a great creation of magna deum mater who is the shakty. that was

well

> put out.

> blessed be.

>