Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Indian women prowl the gumshoe beat Amrit Dhillon Delhi TheAge.com.au April 19, 2008 [Yeah, off topic. But interesting] Having proved they can fly planes, transplant kidneys and launch satellites, Indian women are storming yet another male bastion where the required skills are less exalted - poking around in rubbish bins for condoms and peering through binoculars to catch adulterous couples in flagrante delicto. Women are increasingly turning to private detective work because business is booming. The Indian capital alone has an estimated 300 agencies. In India's big cities, there are even all-women agencies that offer everything from checking employee credentials for multinationals to snooping on teenage girls whose parents suspect they turn into Jezebels at night. " It's never boring. Every case is different and you meet all kinds of people with fascinating personalities and problems, " said Taralika Lahiri, 48, who runs the all-women National Detectives and Corporate Consultants in New Delhi. As a woman, Mrs Lahiri enjoys an advantage. Indian society tends to take women at face value. " Women don't arouse suspicion. People trust us and open up to us. It's like having the door open all the time, " she says. Mrs Lahiri also says it is easier as a woman to winkle information out of cooks, drivers and maids - the main source of information as they are all too familiar with a family's dirty laundry. For Bhavna Paliwal, 32, who runs Tejas Detectives from a remote suburb in the capital, altering the way she speaks and dresses before she approaches a maid for information is part of the fun of the job. " The hardest part of the job is telling a young girl excited about getting married that the boy her parents have chosen is a liar or womaniser. Often he's in a relationship with someone else, or he's already been married once. All this is shocking for them and it's hard to see their plans collapse, " says Ms Paliwal, who uses camera phones, tiny video cameras and voice recorders. Given that arranged marriages are the bedrock of Indian society, much of the work revolves around premarital checks. Parents want to be sure that the man they have chosen for their daughter is indeed the engineer that he claims to be, rather than discover, post-nuptials and post- dowry, that he drives a bus. [....] Also important are " character checks " . Parents of boys want to be sure the chosen bride-to-be is virtuous and chaste and has no skeletons in the cupboard. Parents of girls want to verify that the boy is not an alcoholic or conman. Mrs Lahiri, who goes into the field on her motorbike, has seen a wide range of human weaknesses and foibles in the course of her work. What has struck her in recent years, though, is a new streak of aggressive materialism which she attributes to the unprecedented prosperity currently enjoyed by the middle class. [....] " Some are more concerned with bank balances than trying to find out if the person is decent and honest, " she says. http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/indian-women- prowl-the-gumshoe-beat/2008/04/18/1208025477692.html or http://tinyurl.com/6cudu5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 , " msbauju " <msbauju wrote: > > Indian women prowl the gumshoe beat > Amrit Dhillon > Delhi > TheAge.com.au > April 19, 2008 > > [Yeah, off topic. But interesting] > > Having proved they can fly planes, transplant kidneys and > launch satellites, Indian women are storming yet another > male bastion where the required skills are less exalted - > poking around in rubbish bins for condoms and peering > through binoculars to catch adulterous couples in flagrante > delicto. > > Women are increasingly turning to private detective work > because business is booming. The Indian capital alone has > an estimated 300 agencies. > > In India's big cities, there are even all-women agencies that > offer everything from checking employee credentials for > multinationals to snooping on teenage girls whose parents > suspect they turn into Jezebels at night. > > " It's never boring. Every case is different and you meet all > kinds of people with fascinating personalities and > problems, " said Taralika Lahiri, 48, who runs the all-women > National Detectives and Corporate Consultants in New > Delhi. > > As a woman, Mrs Lahiri enjoys an advantage. Indian society > tends to take women at face value. > > " Women don't arouse suspicion. People trust us and open up > to us. It's like having the door open all the time, " she says. > > Mrs Lahiri also says it is easier as a woman to winkle > information out of cooks, drivers and maids - the main > source of information as they are all too familiar with a > family's dirty laundry. > > For Bhavna Paliwal, 32, who runs Tejas Detectives from a > remote suburb in the capital, altering the way she speaks and > dresses before she approaches a maid for information is part > of the fun of the job. > > " The hardest part of the job is telling a young girl excited > about getting married that the boy her parents have chosen > is a liar or womaniser. Often he's in a relationship with > someone else, or he's already been married once. All this is > shocking for them and it's hard to see their plans collapse, " > says Ms Paliwal, who uses camera phones, tiny video > cameras and voice recorders. > > Given that arranged marriages are the bedrock of Indian > society, much of the work revolves around premarital > checks. Parents want to be sure that the man they have > chosen for their daughter is indeed the engineer that he > claims to be, rather than discover, post-nuptials and post- > dowry, that he drives a bus. [....] > > Also important are " character checks " . Parents of boys want > to be sure the chosen bride-to-be is virtuous and chaste and > has no skeletons in the cupboard. Parents of girls want to > verify that the boy is not an alcoholic or conman. > > Mrs Lahiri, who goes into the field on her motorbike, has > seen a wide range of human weaknesses and foibles in the > course of her work. What has struck her in recent years, > though, is a new streak of aggressive materialism which she > attributes to the unprecedented prosperity currently enjoyed > by the middle class. [....] " Some are more concerned with > bank balances than trying to find out if the person is decent > and honest, " she says. > > http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/indian-women- > prowl-the-gumshoe-beat/2008/04/18/1208025477692.html > or > http://tinyurl.com/6cudu5 > Blessed Be, Yes, it´s true, Whooo! Whooo! Kali is Everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Devi is Everywhere -- She's Watching You!......... and you're watching her too....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! NMadasamy <nmadasamy Saturday, 19 April, 2008 5:13:51 PM Re: Devi is Everywhere -- She's Watching You! Devi is Everywhere -- She's Watching You!......... and you're watching Her too....... Blessed Be, Yes I know, Great isn´t it, She does make a VERY possessive mistress tho´, now that I am Hers, She holds a TIGHT grip. Tho´that´s to be expected, to guard against temptation, and lust. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 , Yusuf abdullah <devischild88 wrote: > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from Ramana to Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian Arab living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > , Yusuf abdullah > <devischild88@> wrote: > > > > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > > > > > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from Ramana to > Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social > psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian Arab > living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " > and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. > > > So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here Devi is everywhere.... She's watching you......... you're watching her...... and I'm watching you " Yusoff Abdullah " Aka " Ramana " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy@> > wrote: > > > > , Yusuf abdullah > > <devischild88@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > > > > > > > > > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from Ramana > to > > Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social > > psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian > Arab > > living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " > > and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. > > > > > > So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here > > > > > Devi is everywhere.... She's watching you......... you're watching > her...... and I'm watching you " Yusoff Abdullah " Aka " Ramana " . > I have a strong feeling that you pretend to be a devi devotee aka amma devotee with an intention to sabotage her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 You know, I would have reconsidered that thought if the person responded or defended themselves, even if in private. I only hope that the person is not here to sabotage Devi and make some editorial or article claiming to have been part of a " Goddess Cult of evil " or something on those lines. I have seen quite a several fraud ex-devotees of other religions trying to bash the religion they supposedly were once part of. It is disrespectful. It is nothing more than pseudo-propaganda, sometimes escalating to the level of real propaganda. It is people who do this who make a really nice teacher assistant in one of my classes, a Nair, feel like she has to keep her mouth shut in a free country like the United States. To be honest, I personally do not feel like she has to, or that I have to, keep my mouth shut about religious beliefs, etc. But because of prejudice and the desire of others to attack other belief systems, it is what happens (even when it technically should not happen). Forgive me if I come across as accusatory. It is nothing personal whatsoever. I am acting on the defense to simply inform you to please not try to isolate Shaktism from the rest of the world via sabotaging it. If you just chose to change your nickname and just listen, that is fine. Just whoever you might be, please do not contribute to the psychological oppression, if not psychological terrorism. God bless. Sincerely, Christina ---- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy > wrote: > > > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy@> > > wrote: > > > > > > , Yusuf abdullah > > > <devischild88@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from > Ramana > > to > > > Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social > > > psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian > > Arab > > > living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " > > > and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. > > > > > > > > > So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here > > > > > > > > > > Devi is everywhere.... She's watching you......... you're watching > > her...... and I'm watching you " Yusoff Abdullah " Aka " Ramana " . > > > > > I have a strong feeling that you pretend to be a devi devotee aka > amma devotee with an intention to sabotage her? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Maybe I've missed something here, but I am finding myself concerned about someone being judged not on the basis of words or deeds even but their name, real or virtual. This is sounding to me like racism, or similar prejudice. Seeing this on a list such as this I find disturbing. Karen - <IlluminatedCelestial Cc: " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:13 AM Re: Re: Devi is Everywhere -- She's Watching You! > You know, I would have reconsidered that thought if the person responded or defended themselves, even if in private. > > I only hope that the person is not here to sabotage Devi and make some editorial or article claiming to have been part of a " Goddess Cult of evil " or something on those lines. I have seen quite a several fraud ex-devotees of other religions trying to bash the religion they supposedly were once part of. It is disrespectful. It is nothing more than pseudo-propaganda, sometimes escalating to the level of real propaganda. > > It is people who do this who make a really nice teacher assistant in one of my classes, a Nair, feel like she has to keep her mouth shut in a free country like the United States. To be honest, I personally do not feel like she has to, or that I have to, keep my mouth shut about religious beliefs, etc. But because of prejudice and the desire of others to attack other belief systems, it is what happens (even when it technically should not happen). > > Forgive me if I come across as accusatory. It is nothing personal whatsoever. I am acting on the defense to simply inform you to please not try to isolate Shaktism from the rest of the world via sabotaging it. If you just chose to change your nickname and just listen, that is fine. Just whoever you might be, please do not contribute to the psychological oppression, if not psychological terrorism. > > God bless. > > Sincerely, > Christina > > > ---- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy > > wrote: > > > > > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > , Yusuf abdullah > > > > <devischild88@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from > > Ramana > > > to > > > > Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social > > > > psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian > > > Arab > > > > living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " > > > > and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devi is everywhere.... She's watching you......... you're watching > > > her...... and I'm watching you " Yusoff Abdullah " Aka " Ramana " . > > > > > > > > > I have a strong feeling that you pretend to be a devi devotee aka > > amma devotee with an intention to sabotage her? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 , " karen " <karen wrote: > > Maybe I've missed something here, but I am finding myself concerned about > someone being judged not on the basis of words or deeds even but their name, > real or virtual. This is sounding to me like racism, or similar prejudice. > Seeing this on a list such as this I find disturbing. > > Karen > Dearest Karan..... I am concern too with your remark of this word 'racist'. Yes! you have miss something definitely. Firstly do you know who is " yusoff abdullah " and his other names he comes in ... I know. Its not about because his name is muslim or anything, its got nothing to do with it. I have my own reason why I post that message and I have no obligation to explain it to you or anybody. If this sound racist to you, then its too bad. I am who I am and I do because I have a reason to. I dont know what's Christina reason. I do not question your's.Each have our own. I shall stop here. There's many other disturbing people in here... welcome to the club karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Namaste Karen, I understand your concern, and at face value it would seem that I might have came across as racist. I admit that I was placed on the defense,and probably more on the defense than I should have been. However, I also noticed that there was not an immediate response after Nora addressed the oddness of the situation right away. I do not speak for her, but myself. I speak for being concerned after noticing this, and then I got defensive. Perhaps my ego got in the way, perhaps not. It was why I made my last paragraph the way it was. I admit to being accusing. Jai Ma Sincerely, Christina ---- karen <karen wrote: > Maybe I've missed something here, but I am finding myself concerned about > someone being judged not on the basis of words or deeds even but their name, > real or virtual. This is sounding to me like racism, or similar prejudice. > Seeing this on a list such as this I find disturbing. > > Karen > > > > - > <IlluminatedCelestial > > Cc: " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy > Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:13 AM > Re: Re: Devi is Everywhere -- She's Watching You! > > > > You know, I would have reconsidered that thought if the person responded > or defended themselves, even if in private. > > > > I only hope that the person is not here to sabotage Devi and make some > editorial or article claiming to have been part of a " Goddess Cult of evil " > or something on those lines. I have seen quite a several fraud ex-devotees > of other religions trying to bash the religion they supposedly were once > part of. It is disrespectful. It is nothing more than pseudo-propaganda, > sometimes escalating to the level of real propaganda. > > > > It is people who do this who make a really nice teacher assistant in one > of my classes, a Nair, feel like she has to keep her mouth shut in a free > country like the United States. To be honest, I personally do not feel like > she has to, or that I have to, keep my mouth shut about religious beliefs, > etc. But because of prejudice and the desire of others to attack other > belief systems, it is what happens (even when it technically should not > happen). > > > > Forgive me if I come across as accusatory. It is nothing personal > whatsoever. I am acting on the defense to simply inform you to please not > try to isolate Shaktism from the rest of the world via sabotaging it. If > you just chose to change your nickname and just listen, that is fine. Just > whoever you might be, please do not contribute to the psychological > oppression, if not psychological terrorism. > > > > God bless. > > > > Sincerely, > > Christina > > > > > > ---- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , Yusuf abdullah > > > > > <devischild88@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " >In perfect Love and Perfect Trust! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they! Interesting how you can interchange your name from > > > Ramana > > > > to > > > > > Yusoff Abdullah. I have known of one Yusoff Abdullah a social > > > > > psychologist........another character a pro-Zionist Palestinian > > > > Arab > > > > > living in the West Bank, using the pseudonyms " Yusuf Abdullah " > > > > > and " Yusuf Chouri " for this invented persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So may I ask humbly....... " yusoff Abdullah " why are you here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devi is everywhere.... She's watching you......... you're watching > > > > her...... and I'm watching you " Yusoff Abdullah " Aka " Ramana " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a strong feeling that you pretend to be a devi devotee aka > > > amma devotee with an intention to sabotage her? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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