Worshiping Kali -- From SS Website : Request for Guidance

[Guest guest]

Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

 

First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make sure I am not

putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call it...

 

Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and dangerous, or that

worship of Kali is such? I do not perform ritual at the graveyard, but I am

still a Kali devotee who eventually wishes to understand Sanskrit and still

seeks official initiation into an authentic Shakta tradition. I have not

experienced anything dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at least no more

danger than anyone else has.

 

In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is healthier than my

previous perspective. I can say from experience that Kali is no more dangerous

than any other manifestation of Devi. Everyday is an increase of my

self-awareness. Everyday is learning more about myself and further

understanding my purpose.

 

At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you meant by your

claim.

 

Jai Ma!

 

Sincerely,

Christina

 

 

 

---- srinivasrao197080 <srinivasrao197080 wrote:

> Mr. Subramaniam,

>

> This mail is neither to encourage nor discourage you. But it is a

> word of caution that before undertaking such upasanas, one should

> retrospect oneself whether one is fit enough to undertake such

> worships.

>

> By the way, what is your vision and goal of your upasana and why do

> you want to undertake such worships. Gone are the days of

> Ramakrishna Paramahamsas, Ram Prasads, Vamakshepas. You need to have

> strong guts to pursue such things now in graveyard. Here is the mode

> of worship if Kali in graveyard:

>

> " The Kali sadhana takes place on a Tuesday, at midnight, in the

> cremation ground. Here, surrounded by jackals, owls and other uncanny

> creatures of the night, the Sadhaka and his Shakti select a newly

> dead male corpse, which should be, according to the texts, of a young

> man preferably a king, a hero or a warrior. If he has recently died

> in battle, so much the better. Placing the corpse face downwards, the

> two draw the Kaliyantra on his back, offer each other food, wine and

> other good things, and then commence the act of ritual sex. At the

> close of intercourse, the man offers his Shakti one of her pubic

> hairs smeared with his semen and, if she is menstruating, blood. By

> doing such acts of worship, the sadhaka attains certain siddhis (I

> donot know what sort of siddhis they are!!!).

>

> While performing the worship, the corpse occasionally opens its mouth

> since devi is invoked. When the corpse opens its mouth, the sadhaka

> has to pour little amount of wine failing which it devours the

> sadhaka. If the sexual act is not done properly, the sadhaka turns

> mad and deranged along with sakti.

>

> So, I donot know what is in your mind and whether for academic

> interest you have asked or not.

>

> Better to concentrate on your career development and keep off from

> these horrible and dangerous sadhanas.

>

> Srinivas rao.

>

>

>

> , " NMadasamy "

> <ashwini_puralasamy wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am from India. Need Guidance for taknig " Smashan Sadhana " of the

> > Kali Deity.

> >

> > With Warm Regards.

> > Subramaniam

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

how dare you use the word " horrible " to describe the sadhana for Maa

Kali, the adividya of maha vidya, one of the para devata, t essence

of shakti as horrible???!!!

 

 

, <IlluminatedCelestial

wrote:

>

> Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

>

> First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call

it...

>

> Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and

dangerous, or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform

ritual at the graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who

eventually wishes to understand Sanskrit and still seeks official

initiation into an authentic Shakta tradition. I have not

experienced anything dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at

least no more danger than anyone else has.

>

> In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of

Devi. Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is

learning more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

>

> At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you

meant by your claim.

>

> Jai Ma!

>

> Sincerely,

> Christina

>

>

>

> ---- srinivasrao197080 <srinivasrao197080 wrote:

> > Mr. Subramaniam,

> >

> > This mail is neither to encourage nor discourage you. But it is

a

> > word of caution that before undertaking such upasanas, one

should

> > retrospect oneself whether one is fit enough to undertake such

> > worships.

> >

> > By the way, what is your vision and goal of your upasana and why

do

> > you want to undertake such worships. Gone are the days of

> > Ramakrishna Paramahamsas, Ram Prasads, Vamakshepas. You need to

have

> > strong guts to pursue such things now in graveyard. Here is the

mode

> > of worship if Kali in graveyard:

> >

> > " The Kali sadhana takes place on a Tuesday, at midnight, in the

> > cremation ground. Here, surrounded by jackals, owls and other

uncanny

> > creatures of the night, the Sadhaka and his Shakti select a

newly

> > dead male corpse, which should be, according to the texts, of a

young

> > man preferably a king, a hero or a warrior. If he has recently

died

> > in battle, so much the better. Placing the corpse face

downwards, the

> > two draw the Kaliyantra on his back, offer each other food, wine

and

> > other good things, and then commence the act of ritual sex. At

the

> > close of intercourse, the man offers his Shakti one of her pubic

> > hairs smeared with his semen and, if she is menstruating, blood.

By

> > doing such acts of worship, the sadhaka attains certain siddhis

(I

> > donot know what sort of siddhis they are!!!).

> >

> > While performing the worship, the corpse occasionally opens its

mouth

> > since devi is invoked. When the corpse opens its mouth, the

sadhaka

> > has to pour little amount of wine failing which it devours the

> > sadhaka. If the sexual act is not done properly, the sadhaka

turns

> > mad and deranged along with sakti.

> >

> > So, I donot know what is in your mind and whether for academic

> > interest you have asked or not.

> >

> > Better to concentrate on your career development and keep off

from

> > these horrible and dangerous sadhanas.

> >

> > Srinivas rao.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " NMadasamy "

> > <ashwini_puralasamy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I am from India. Need Guidance for taknig " Smashan Sadhana "

of the

> > > Kali Deity.

> > >

> > > With Warm Regards.

> > > Subramaniam

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mr.Jasyindar

 

I used the word " horrible " because i have the guts to use it. I was

born and brought up in bengal near tarapeet. I know in and out of the

places. And i have never seen any realised person over there. The

vamacharis who practice there are either interested in vashikaran or

in abhicharika prayogas.

 

And it is my humble request to you to mind your language.

 

Srinivas rao

 

 

, " Jasyindar " <jasyindar

wrote:

>

> how dare you use the word " horrible " to describe the sadhana for

Maa

> Kali, the adividya of maha vidya, one of the para devata, t essence

> of shakti as horrible???!!!

[Guest guest]

Christina

 

I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and upasakas. My

grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great vanadurga

upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

initiated in Chintamani mahavidya by none other than sri

swaprakashananda tirtha of anakapalli. Later on went to kashi to

study shankara bhashyas and got initiated in Purna Diksha by

bhairavanandanatha. He was a close friend of dakshinamurthy

paramahamsa of visakhapatnam. My wife is the grand niece of

swaprakashananda tirtha.

 

So, with the grace of my grandfather, i am able to blabber certain

rubbish about the shakta philosphy. Any more introduction of mine,

shoot a private mail.

 

srinivas rao

 

 

 

, <IlluminatedCelestial

wrote:

>

> Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

>

> First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call it...

>

> Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and dangerous,

or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform ritual at the

graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who eventually wishes to

understand Sanskrit and still seeks official initiation into an

authentic Shakta tradition. I have not experienced anything

dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at least no more danger

than anyone else has.

>

> In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of Devi.

Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is learning

more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

>

> At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you meant

by your claim.

>

> Jai Ma!

>

> Sincerely,

> Christina

[Guest guest]

, " srinivasrao197080 "

<srinivasrao197080 wrote:

>

> Christina

>

> I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and upasakas.

My

> grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great vanadurga

> upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

> initiated in Chintamani mahavidya by none other than sri

> swaprakashananda tirtha of anakapalli. Later on went to kashi to

> study shankara bhashyas and got initiated in Purna Diksha by

> bhairavanandanatha. He was a close friend of dakshinamurthy

> paramahamsa of visakhapatnam. My wife is the grand niece of

> swaprakashananda tirtha.

>

> So, with the grace of my grandfather, i am able to blabber certain

> rubbish about the shakta philosphy. Any more introduction of mine,

> shoot a private mail.

>

> srinivas rao

 

 

 

 

Ah! and we should consider ourselves bless to have such knowledgeable

and well connected person like yourself here in our group. Maybe its

DEVI send!

[Guest guest]

, " srinivasrao197080 "

<srinivasrao197080 wrote:

 

>

> I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and upasakas.

My

> grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great vanadurga

> upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

> initiated in Chintamani mahavidya by none other than sri

> swaprakashananda tirtha of anakapalli. Later on went to kashi to

> study shankara bhashyas and got initiated in Purna Diksha by

> bhairavanandanatha. He was a close friend of dakshinamurthy

> paramahamsa of visakhapatnam. My wife is the grand niece of

> swaprakashananda tirtha.

>

> So, with the grace of my grandfather, i am able to blabber certain

> rubbish about the shakta philosphy. Any more introduction of mine,

> shoot a private mail.

>

> srinivas rao

 

 

 

Thank you for this. Now I really know who you are really. Often

people have ask : who are you? I find it very difficult to tell

anytihng. Its not that I cant, but I feel this whole need to tell

others who you are and your whole connection is itself attachment?

Does ti matter. Is it very importaint for other to know who you are?

 

At one moment we talk abt humility and another we boast a lot about

our family connection. I dont know. I am just a nobody... I wish I

can do all that Shri Srinivas Rao going around giving my credentials,

but I am bounded by a promise and I have to keep that promise to my

guru. Maybe too yes! you are right, who am I to even be here and call

mysleef a Shakti Devotee. Prehaps its somebody like yourself is

better qualified to call yourself one.

[Guest guest]

, " srinivasrao197080 "

<srinivasrao197080 wrote:

>

> Mr.Jasyindar

>

> I used the word " horrible " because i have the guts to use it. I was

> born and brought up in bengal near tarapeet. I know in and out of

the places. And i have never seen any realised person over there. The

> vamacharis who practice there are either interested in vashikaran or

> in abhicharika prayogas.

>

> And it is my humble request to you to mind your language.

>

> Srinivas rao

 

 

Question:

 

How do you define a raelized person? Are you not being judgemental

towards vamacharis? Are you once a ex-practictioner and feel that you

have the right to make such statement? Its like a medical student,

standing infront of a conference hall full of experience surgeon

telling them that what they are all doing are wrong. And only he, is

the one who know the right way to do the operation.

 

You know since I've been the moderator of this group I have come

across many who claim to be realized and they feel its their right to

claim to be such.

[Guest guest]

You are of course entitled to your own beliefs and opinions, even if they

disagree with mine. However...

 

I was only asking for clarification on what you meant and only explained in my

defence that I had different experiences. In fact, I probably did not make

myself clear in my post when I said that I was just asking if you meant that

Kali worship in itself is 'horrible and dangerous' or if you were meaning a

specific practice. I am humble enough to ask when I do not understand what

someone means.

 

And, as you probably gathered in the recent e-mails, some people were wondering

what you meant, as well.

 

I did not throw an accusation at you, yet now you come across to me as if you

feel the need to defend yourself. The other e-mails in this conversation coming

from your end even strike me as hostile. Did I violate a personal boundary by

asking for clarification? If so, I apologize for causing such a retaliation,

but I do not apologize for being the curious seeker that I am and for stating my

perspective.

 

As for your credentials... You must be honored to come from such a privileged

background. However, it does not do me any good if you explicitly express scorn

against Kali devotees. It strikes me as no different from a fundamentalist

telling a pagan that they are 'disgusting sinners who need to go to Hell,' just

because they do not believe Christ as the only way. Where we come from, we call

that: " Closing the door before letting a person know it was open. " Basically,

it shuts people out.

 

At any rate, I said my piece.

 

 

Jai Ma!

 

Sincerely,

Christina

 

 

 

 

 

 

---- srinivasrao197080 <srinivasrao197080 wrote:

> Christina

>

> I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and upasakas. My

> grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great vanadurga

> upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

> initiated in Chintamani mahavidya by none other than sri

> swaprakashananda tirtha of anakapalli. Later on went to kashi to

> study shankara bhashyas and got initiated in Purna Diksha by

> bhairavanandanatha. He was a close friend of dakshinamurthy

> paramahamsa of visakhapatnam. My wife is the grand niece of

> swaprakashananda tirtha.

>

> So, with the grace of my grandfather, i am able to blabber certain

> rubbish about the shakta philosphy. Any more introduction of mine,

> shoot a private mail.

>

> srinivas rao

>

>

>

> , <IlluminatedCelestial

> wrote:

> >

> > Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

> >

> > First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

> sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call it...

> >

> > Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and dangerous,

> or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform ritual at the

> graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who eventually wishes to

> understand Sanskrit and still seeks official initiation into an

> authentic Shakta tradition. I have not experienced anything

> dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at least no more danger

> than anyone else has.

> >

> > In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

> healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

> that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of Devi.

> Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is learning

> more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

> >

> > At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you meant

> by your claim.

> >

> > Jai Ma!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Christina

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends.

we are all here to know each other at least get some sharing of ideas which

others can take or not...

before that,.....everyone of us has some uniqueness and wants to share common

platform

there is nothing like one is wrong another is right.....

once again please don't use any words that kindles anger in other..

if ideas are not taken and questioned ....if one can answer ..it is okay

...otherwise ignore...

pl understand ...all my friends ...highest workship and culture of Sakthi

sadhana is

patience and perseverance....

in devi mahatmiyam ..devi never get provoked by demons ........immedietly...

here demons means ...the matter it provokes.....not verbal meaning...

then only this forum will go for ever......

bye...

 

atjags

 

 

 

 

NMadasamy <ashwini_puralasamy

 

Wednesday, 14 May, 2008 8:51:19 PM

Re: Worshiping Kali -- From SS Website : Request for

Guidance

 

 

, " srinivasrao197080 "

<srinivasrao197080@ ...> wrote:

 

>

> I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and upasakas.

My

> grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great vanadurga

> upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

[Guest guest]

Mr. Jagadeesan

 

Salutations to you. You are right and struck the cord!!!

 

Chandi says " saumya saumyatarasheesha saumyebhyati sundari...tvam eva

parameswari " . Mother is in the most tender form in this cosmos. My

grandfather used to say that she is even more tender than the rose

petals that sports in the deepest chasms of the heart with Kameswara.

She is such a divine beauty which is beyond the reach of human mind

and hence says the veda " yatho vaacho nivarthante apraapya manasa

saha " . It is this principle of mother which is beyond mind and

speech. It is in the form of CHIT in the deep chasms of Heart. She is

the form of Ardha Maatra of Pranava which cannot be spelt. She is the

form of Para speech (the source of the articulate speech). She sports

at the sahasrara as the 16th kala in the form of sodasi. She sports

in the chasms of heart as Chit Kala. She sports as Maha Kali at Kula

Kunda. But with all her forms, she embraces her children and hugs to

her breasts and suckles the milk of nectar.

 

Double standards, mud slinging, hypocracy, loose character,

unnecessary lose talk and making fun of others are definitely NOT THE

MARKS OF SHAKTHA. It is my advice as a pra-shishya of Swayamprakasa

Tirtha that unnecessary argumants and loose talk that involves

mudslinging on others would land nowhere.

 

And Nora, if i have hurt your feelings by the word " Motherhood " , i

beg the pardon for that. I respect every women (even my wife)and

regard them as the reflections of MOTHER DIVINE. The chandi

says " vidyah samastah tava devi rupah, striyah samastah sakala

jagatsu... " . All the sciences, art and women are the form of MOTHER

DIVINE.

 

Srinivas rao

 

, Arakampakkam Thiaagrajan

jagadeesan <atjags wrote:

>

> Dear Friends.

> we are all here to know each other at least get some sharing of

ideas which others can take or not...

> before that,.....everyone of us has some uniqueness and wants to

share common platform

> there is nothing like one is wrong another is right.....

> once again please don't use any words that kindles anger in other..

> if ideas are not taken and questioned ....if one can answer ..it is

okay ..otherwise ignore...

> pl understand ...all my friends ...highest workship and culture of

Sakthi sadhana is

> patience and perseverance....

> in devi mahatmiyam ..devi never get provoked by

demons ........immedietly...

> here demons means ...the matter it provokes.....not verbal

meaning...

> then only this forum will go for ever......

> bye...

>

> atjags

>

>

>

>

> NMadasamy <ashwini_puralasamy

>

> Wednesday, 14 May, 2008 8:51:19 PM

> Re: Worshiping Kali -- From SS Website :

Request for Guidance

>

>

> , " srinivasrao197080 "

> <srinivasrao197080@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and

upasakas.

> My

> > grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great

vanadurga

> > upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

>

[Guest guest]

, " srinivasrao197080 "

<srinivasrao197080 wrote:

>

> Mr. Jagadeesan

>

> Salutations to you. You are right and struck the cord!!!

>

> Chandi says " saumya saumyatarasheesha saumyebhyati sundari...tvam eva

> parameswari " . Mother is in the most tender form in this cosmos. My

> grandfather used to say that she is even more tender than the rose

> petals that sports in the deepest chasms of the heart with Kameswara.

> She is such a divine beauty which is beyond the reach of human mind

> and hence says the veda " yatho vaacho nivarthante apraapya manasa

> saha " . It is this principle of mother which is beyond mind and

> speech. It is in the form of CHIT in the deep chasms of Heart. She is

> the form of Ardha Maatra of Pranava which cannot be spelt. She is the

> form of Para speech (the source of the articulate speech). She sports

> at the sahasrara as the 16th kala in the form of sodasi. She sports

> in the chasms of heart as Chit Kala. She sports as Maha Kali at Kula

> Kunda. But with all her forms, she embraces her children and hugs to

> her breasts and suckles the milk of nectar.

>

> Double standards, mud slinging, hypocracy, loose character,

> unnecessary lose talk and making fun of others are definitely NOT THE

> MARKS OF SHAKTHA. It is my advice as a pra-shishya of Swayamprakasa

> Tirtha that unnecessary argumants and loose talk that involves

> mudslinging on others would land nowhere.

>

> And Nora, if i have hurt your feelings by the word " Motherhood " , i

> beg the pardon for that. I respect every women (even my wife)and

> regard them as the reflections of MOTHER DIVINE. The chandi

> says " vidyah samastah tava devi rupah, striyah samastah sakala

> jagatsu... " . All the sciences, art and women are the form of MOTHER

> DIVINE.

>

> Srinivas rao

>

> , Arakampakkam Thiaagrajan

> jagadeesan <atjags@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends.

> > we are all here to know each other at least get some sharing of

> ideas which others can take or not...

> > before that,.....everyone of us has some uniqueness and wants to

> share common platform

> > there is nothing like one is wrong another is right.....

> > once again please don't use any words that kindles anger in other..

> > if ideas are not taken and questioned ....if one can answer ..it is

> okay ..otherwise ignore...

> > pl understand ...all my friends ...highest workship and culture of

> Sakthi sadhana is

> > patience and perseverance....

> > in devi mahatmiyam ..devi never get provoked by

> demons ........immedietly...

> > here demons means ...the matter it provokes.....not verbal

> meaning...

> > then only this forum will go for ever......

> > bye...

> >

> > atjags

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > NMadasamy <ashwini_puralasamy@>

> >

> > Wednesday, 14 May, 2008 8:51:19 PM

> > Re: Worshiping Kali -- From SS Website :

> Request for Guidance

> >

> >

> > , " srinivasrao197080 "

> > <srinivasrao197080@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I am been brought up in the family of vedic scholars and

> upasakas.

> > My

> > > grandfather, sri Vadlamani Subramanya Avadhanigal, a great

> vanadurga

> > > upasaka at temple of kanakadurga, is my guru. Sri avadhanigal was

> >

>

Thanks.OHM TANTRAYINE NAMAH.

[Guest guest]

Rolling on the Floor Laughing

 

Jasyindar <jasyindar wrote: how dare you use the word

" horrible " to describe the sadhana for Maa

Kali, the adividya of maha vidya, one of the para devata, t essence

of shakti as horrible???!!!

 

, <IlluminatedCelestial

wrote:

>

> Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

>

> First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call

it...

>

> Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and

dangerous, or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform

ritual at the graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who

eventually wishes to understand Sanskrit and still seeks official

initiation into an authentic Shakta tradition. I have not

experienced anything dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at

least no more danger than anyone else has.

>

> In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of

Devi. Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is

learning more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

>

> At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you

meant by your claim.

>

> Jai Ma!

>

> Sincerely,

> Christina

>

>

>

> ---- srinivasrao197080 <srinivasrao197080 wrote:

> > Mr. Subramaniam,

> >

> > This mail is neither to encourage nor discourage you. But it is

a

> > word of caution that before undertaking such upasanas, one

should

> > retrospect oneself whether one is fit enough to undertake such

> > worships.

> >

> > By the way, what is your vision and goal of your upasana and why

do

> > you want to undertake such worships. Gone are the days of

> > Ramakrishna Paramahamsas, Ram Prasads, Vamakshepas. You need to

have

> > strong guts to pursue such things now in graveyard. Here is the

mode

> > of worship if Kali in graveyard:

> >

> > " The Kali sadhana takes place on a Tuesday, at midnight, in the

> > cremation ground. Here, surrounded by jackals, owls and other

uncanny

> > creatures of the night, the Sadhaka and his Shakti select a

newly

> > dead male corpse, which should be, according to the texts, of a

young

> > man preferably a king, a hero or a warrior. If he has recently

died

> > in battle, so much the better. Placing the corpse face

downwards, the

> > two draw the Kaliyantra on his back, offer each other food, wine

and

> > other good things, and then commence the act of ritual sex. At

the

> > close of intercourse, the man offers his Shakti one of her pubic

> > hairs smeared with his semen and, if she is menstruating, blood.

By

> > doing such acts of worship, the sadhaka attains certain siddhis

(I

> > donot know what sort of siddhis they are!!!).

> >

> > While performing the worship, the corpse occasionally opens its

mouth

> > since devi is invoked. When the corpse opens its mouth, the

sadhaka

> > has to pour little amount of wine failing which it devours the

> > sadhaka. If the sexual act is not done properly, the sadhaka

turns

> > mad and deranged along with sakti.

> >

> > So, I donot know what is in your mind and whether for academic

> > interest you have asked or not.

> >

> > Better to concentrate on your career development and keep off

from

> > these horrible and dangerous sadhanas.

> >

> > Srinivas rao.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " NMadasamy "

> > <ashwini_puralasamy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I am from India. Need Guidance for taknig " Smashan Sadhana "

of the

> > > Kali Deity.

> > >

> > > With Warm Regards.

> > > Subramaniam

> > >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hmmm my mommy said not nice to laugh at people.

 

 

 

, sankara menon <kochu1tz

wrote:

>

> Rolling on the Floor Laughing

>

> Jasyindar <jasyindar wrote: how dare you use the

word " horrible " to describe the sadhana for Maa

> Kali, the adividya of maha vidya, one of the para devata, t essence

> of shakti as horrible???!!!

>

> , <IlluminatedCelestial@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

> >

> > First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

> sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call

> it...

> >

> > Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and

> dangerous, or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform

> ritual at the graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who

> eventually wishes to understand Sanskrit and still seeks official

> initiation into an authentic Shakta tradition. I have not

> experienced anything dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at

> least no more danger than anyone else has.

> >

> > In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

> healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

> that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of

> Devi. Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is

> learning more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

> >

> > At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you

> meant by your claim.

> >

> > Jai Ma!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Christina

[Guest guest]

my mommeeee too. Bat what to do? When ppl istart gettin angri?

 

NMadasamy <ashwini_puralasamy wrote: hmmm

my mommy said not nice to laugh at people.

 

, sankara menon <kochu1tz

wrote:

>

> Rolling on the Floor Laughing

>

> Jasyindar <jasyindar wrote: how dare you use the

word " horrible " to describe the sadhana for Maa

> Kali, the adividya of maha vidya, one of the para devata, t essence

> of shakti as horrible???!!!

>

> , <IlluminatedCelestial@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Excuse me, but if I may implement my input...

> >

> > First off, I want to ask for clarification on something to make

> sure I am not putting words in your mouth, as us Westerners call

> it...

> >

> > Are you suggesting that the noted ritual is horrible and

> dangerous, or that worship of Kali is such? I do not perform

> ritual at the graveyard, but I am still a Kali devotee who

> eventually wishes to understand Sanskrit and still seeks official

> initiation into an authentic Shakta tradition. I have not

> experienced anything dangerous whatsoever from worshiping Kali, at

> least no more danger than anyone else has.

> >

> > In fact, worship has given me a new perspective, one that is

> healthier than my previous perspective. I can say from experience

> that Kali is no more dangerous than any other manifestation of

> Devi. Everyday is an increase of my self-awareness. Everyday is

> learning more about myself and further understanding my purpose.

> >

> > At any rate, I thought I would seek clarification on what you

> meant by your claim.

> >

> > Jai Ma!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Christina