Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hello all, For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of sadness and today I feel a little depressed. This is quite contrary to what I've normally heard of mantra practice. Could someone help me out here? Is this soemthing normally experienced? Is my mind trying to overcome the inner inertia? Please help... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear sir , The mantra before doing japaa of has to me initiated or tought by guru and each mantra will have rishi chandaas so guru will teach us to do it . So I personally request u to stop this & seek a guru go according to his wish . Sorry if I am wrong . Thx Nageshwara Sastry Jagadambarpanam On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:51 PM, " robertpartick " <robertpartick wrote: Hello all, For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of sadness and today I feel a little depressed. This is quite contrary to what I've normally heard of mantra practice. Could someone help me out here? Is this soemthing normally experienced? Is my mind trying to overcome the inner inertia? Please help... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Jay Jagadambe, Shri.Nageshwara is absolutely correct. Please follow his suggestion. Jitu ________________________________ Nageshwar <srisaswara " " Cc: " " Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:48:15 AM Re: Lakshmi Mantra Dear sir , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Some people feel that so long as the chanting is done solely for devotional purposes, initiation isn't necessarily required -- at least for *some* mantras. Unfortunately, with regards to goddess-oriented mantras, there doesn't seem to be much agreement as to which mantras are acceptable for non-initiatory chanting. With regards to dealing with unpleasant reactions, here's a suggestion from a group member: /message/30157 , " robertpartick " <robertpartick wrote: > > Hello all, > For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem > Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of > sadness and today I feel a little depressed. This is quite contrary to > what I've normally heard of mantra practice. > > Could someone help me out here? Is this soemthing normally experienced? > Is my mind trying to overcome the inner inertia? > Please help... > Bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Nice advice all around....There always has to be a balance between insight and equanimity, and insight always seems so much more exciting and tempting. I don't think any of us are at a point where we don't have to remind ourselves that the attachment to the goal of liberation is one of the obstacles to liberation. It's awfully easy to jump into some new practice before we're ready--and we usually see the warning signs and ignore them. We want something other than what we're getting and end up burnt out or disappointed or angry. This is a kind of idolatry, of insisting that the goddess's universe fit our human and generally ignorant ideas of what the universe should be like. It's hard, but we have to learn to live by her schedule and not ours. As Hegel said, the only thing that keeps us from seeing that the world is absolute spirit is our belief that it isn't. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear sir , I agree with u but for stotras is okay but for mantras , Vedas & Durga saptashati like this even rashmi mala has to come through guru only . That's what I told ok of my devotee was doing bhagala mukhi I when he came to me for some problem then I asked him what mantras u r doing so he told me that I am soon this then I told him not to go without guru and also maha lakshmi is one of dasamaha Vidya so I prefer him to go to guru & take his opinion .sorry of I am explaining a lot. Thx Nageshwar Jagadambarpanam On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:52 AM, " msbauju " <msbauju wrote: Some people feel that so long as the chanting is done solely for devotional purposes, initiation isn't necessarily required -- at least for *some* mantras. Unfortunately, with regards to goddess-oriented mantras, there doesn't seem to be much agreement as to which mantras are acceptable for non-initiatory chanting. With regards to dealing with unpleasant reactions, here's a suggestion from a group member: /message/30157 , " robertpartick " <robertpartick wrote: > > > For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem > Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of > sadness and today I feel a little depressed. [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You are just sad that you don't have more money. HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Different teachers clearly have differing views on this. Shree Maa and Swami Satyananda (of Napa) teach and recommend the Chandi Path (Durga Saptashati): http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/ And Sri Karunamayi teaches the Lalita Sahasranama (without initiation) And has a bunch of mantra CDs too. http://www.karunamayi.org/AmmaStore/home.php?cat=266 And Ammachi also recommends the Lalita Sahasranama, which others feel should be by initiation only. (BTW, she has a 'Bhajans for Beginners CD' which might be useful for Robert if he's interested in trying out Max's suggestion.) http://www.theammashop.org/mmchants.html Sri Karunamayi also teaches the Khadgamala stotram (and this e-group makes a practice text available); you say stotrams are okay, but in this e-group we've had members who say the KS should be by initiation only as well. So there just isn't going to be universal agreement on what is initiatory and what is not. , Nageshwar <srisaswara wrote: > > Dear sir , > > I agree with u but for stotras is okay but for mantras , Vedas & Durga saptashati like this even rashmi mala has to come through guru only . That's what I told ok of my devotee was doing bhagala mukhi I when he came to me for some problem then I asked him what mantras u r doing so he told me that I am soon this then I told him not to go without guru and also maha lakshmi is one of dasamaha Vidya so I prefer him to go to guru & take his opinion .sorry of I am explaining a lot. > > Thx > Nageshwar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Aside from the quesitons as to initiations, I wonder what the nature of the sadness is? For example, it occurs to me that since you may be wishing for abundance, there is our tendency to be attached to feelings of lack, and it may be necessary to release those attachments and feelings. Perhaps the mantra is raising such feelings so they can be released, opening the space for abundance to arise? Just a thought... - robertpartick Hello all, For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of sadness and today I feel a little depressed. This is quite contrary to what I've normally heard of mantra practice. Could someone help me out here? Is this soemthing normally experienced? Is my mind trying to overcome the inner inertia? Please help... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Namaste: I once started chanting a mantra to Bagalamukhi and within two days I was nearly suicidal. I chose a different mantra to her and I began to feel better. Why did this happen? I'm not sure. I can only guess. Shanti Om, Shankari Enquire: 'Who am I?' and you will find the answer. Look at a tree: from one seed arises a huge tree; from it comes numerous seeds, each one of which in its turn grows into a tree. No two fruits are alike. Yet it is one life that throbs in every particle of the tree. So, it is the same Atman everywhere. --Sri Anandamayi Ma http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ --- On Wed, 2/18/09, karen <karen wrote: karen <karen Aside from the quesitons as to initiations, I wonder what the nature of the sadness is? For example, it occurs to me that since you may be wishing for abundance, there is our tendency to be attached to feelings of lack, and it may be necessary to release those attachments and feelings. Perhaps the mantra is raising such feelings so they can be released, opening the space for abundance to arise? Just a thought... - robertpartick Hello all, For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of sadness and today I feel a little depressed. [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hello All, Thank you very much for all your advice. Personally, I am feeling a lot better now. I have not stopped chanting though I missed my last nights session. My experiences with mantras has never bought me this level of depression. I am not sure if part of the low feeling is because of things going on in my personal life and job front. But i've always been happy-go-lucky inspite of bad things happenning in the past. This was totally new. Karen, I personally would to your idea. I am relatively new to the mantra world so I hope I am not offending anyone. The " sankalpa " i had when I started the mantra was abundance of peace of mind. Probably, to get peace we would have to empty the attics of our minds. I plan to continue for some more time before drawing a final conclusion. Once again, thank you all suggestions and advice. I really appreciate having them. Bob --- On Wed, 2/18/09, karen <karen wrote: karen <karen Aside from the quesitons as to initiations, I wonder what the nature of the sadness is? For example, it occurs to me that since you may be wishing for abundance, there is our tendency to be attached to feelings of lack, and it may be necessary to release those attachments and feelings. Perhaps the mantra is raising such feelings so they can be released, opening the space for abundance to arise? Just a thought... - robertpartick Hello all, For the past two days i've been chanting the Lakshmi mantra " Om Shreem Mahalakshmiye swaha " . Ever since I started chanting I have a sense of sadness and today I feel a little depressed. [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hello Bob,Ok so there are two problems here, well one isn't quite a problem as much as it is the nature of the deity herself... in that lakshmi is a manifestation of the shakti of fullness, enjoyment, succour, material gain and fortitude in the position one occupies in the earthly realm but she is also the one who takes back when one tries to hold on to her beauty and love, it then turns to smoke and lakshmi transforms herself to become dhumavati, a goddess who represents both suffering and the detcatchment gained when frustration develops in to the vidhya state of cognition, the principle of voidness and the bliss one finds when one is immersed in that state of being, regardless of circumstantial factors that govern most people's lives... she is the smoke screen that both obfuscates the innate sense one has of the transcendental knowledge that goes beyond everyday situations and the shakti that actually blurs the distinction within the realm of the everyday set of happenings between good and bad, pleasurable and unwanted that brings you to the state of detachment through which lakshmi may manifest again... so if she's making you feel sad it might be for a reason... the other thing is that the mantra you're practicing is a generic one... it is possible that it hasn't been channeled by a seer and is possibly not appropriate for your practice for that reason... if you go to www.shivashakti.com u should find a more appropriate mantra... if u find any mantra in the future be sure you know which tantra it is revealed in... and whether that tantra is reputable. good luck, krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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