Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 dear friend, i am gopal from mumbai india. i request u to pls read sri markandeya puran or sri durga saptashati,in english if u cant,if u dont know sanskrit or hindi. when shumbh and nishumbh 2 demons had dispossessed the gods from their place-heaven,they prayed to divine mother for help. at that time mother appeared and said she will kill the demons and give back the kingdoms to gods. in this war,there was a demon known as raktabeej,means blood-seed. he had a power that if 1 drop of his blood fell to the ground another demon as pwoerful as him wud spring up. thus this was the secret weapon of the demons. when the war ensued mother killed all demons who came to fight her and her various forms like varahi,vaishnavi,maheshwari,shivduti, kaali,kaumari,brahmani, etc... when raktabeej came to fight mother ambika-the divine mother fought him,but when his blood spilled over,loads of new demons were formed. mother loves all beings and she also loved the demons as much as the gods,but despite the demons having their own equal place like heaven they always coveted the heaven. anyway,the situation became desperate,and so mother ambika and all other mothers were fighting the demons and finally kaali told mother durga-ambika,that she will eat the demons-all raktabeej and also drink his blood. she expanded her mouth to eat all the demons,and also lay her tongue to cover the earth so nod rop of blood touched the ground. then all the goddesses attacked raktabeej and killed him. thus as a rememberance to this event people offer animals and blood to mother. pls remember that whenever the gods kill the demons,or asuras,they always get salvation. ram killed ravan but ravan got salvattion.same way lord shiv killed demons and they got salvation.sameway mother killed demons and they all got salvation.this is due to the fact that gods and mother loves all living beings unconditionally. it is not necessary,to offer blood only. there r 3+1 type of pooja-worship. tamasic,whth meat and stuff. rajasic with various types of rajasic food and stuffs. sattvic,with only vegetarain food. and the most important method of worship is samya path means only mental worship.this is more loved by all gods and mother. so it is not necessary to offer blood only to mother. depends on the devotee and his desire to worship. om shakti gopal On 6/20/09, Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: > > > > Hi > > I wish to know the symbolic meaning of the goddess feasting on blood. > > The kind of answers i like to have will be something like this: > > Nakedness = void of anything material > skull = nothing between the skull so a mindless state > > So what does drinking blood = ? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess sucks the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming liberated.� The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. Shanti Om, Shankari http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 jia gurudev dear shankari, no offence to u,or anyone. but the blood is symbolised bcoz mother chamunda-kaali drank blood of raktabeej. similarly animals like buffallo r offered as sacrifice bcoz mother killed mahisasur [ demon buffalo ]. i request u to pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.i think its avialable in english also. om shakti gopal On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > > > Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive > deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess sucks > the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming liberated.� > The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. > > One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Namaste: I have read the Chandi Path and it is 700 verses like the Bhagavad Gita is as well. In the Gita Arjuna is reluctant to face battle. These verses have long been interpreted to be a battle within the mind to reach liberation. The Chandi Path can be interpreted the same way. The Divine mother kills the buffalo demon in one text, and battles with a couple of demons (and their army) in another text. The battle is with one's ego--not with literal demons. One does not literally kill a buffalo because mother killed a " buffalo demon " . The battle is an inner battle--not an exterior one. Shanti Om, Shankari http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ --- On Sun, 6/21/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 jia gurudev dear shankari, no offence to u,or anyone. but the blood is symbolised bcoz mother chamunda-kaali drank blood of raktabeej. similarly animals like buffallo r offered as sacrifice bcoz mother killed mahisasur [ demon buffalo ]. i request u to pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.i think its avialable in english also. om shakti gopal On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ > wrote: > Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive > deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess sucks > the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming liberated.� > The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. > > One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. > Shanti Om, > Shankari > http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hari Om. Respectfully, Generally, when discussing scripture such as Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, & Devi Bhagavatam, people do not generally boldly state what you have just said. Even the greatest of scholars don't say like that. it is more respectful & wise to preface your statements by saying, " it is my opinion " , " I believe " , or " I interpreted this as.... " . Are you qualified to assert that it is not a literal demon? Who says it is not? Many millions of people such as myself are taught by our Gurus to believe in theses scriptures as both literal and figurative. to deny this as literal is to deny their very existence and actual pastimes which are a taught as a fact. So, is that what you are saying? No. I didn't think so. Thus, for the sake of polity, you may want to think about how you couch your words and really understand what you are actually implying. Janardana Dasa --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: Shankari Kali <shankari_kali Re: goddess and bloodthirst Sunday, June 21, 2009, 11:18 AM Namaste: I have read the Chandi Path and it is 700 verses like the Bhagavad Gita is as well. In the Gita Arjuna is reluctant to face battle. These verses have long been interpreted to be a battle within the mind to reach liberation. The Chandi Path can be interpreted the same way. The Divine mother kills the buffalo demon in one text, and battles with a couple of demons (and their army) in another text. The battle is with one's ego--not with literal demons. One does not literally kill a buffalo because mother killed a " buffalo demon " . The battle is an inner battle--not an exterior one. Shanti Om, Shankari http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ --- On Sun, 6/21/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> wrote: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> jia gurudev dear shankari, no offence to u,or anyone. but the blood is symbolised bcoz mother chamunda-kaali drank blood of raktabeej. similarly animals like buffallo r offered as sacrifice bcoz mother killed mahisasur [ demon buffalo ]. i request u to pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.i think its avialable in english also. om shakti gopal On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ > wrote: > Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive > deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess sucks > the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming liberated.� > The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. > > One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. > Shanti Om, > Shankari > http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 jia gurudev dear shankari, as i had told u,there r 4 path of worship. tamasic,rajasic,sattvic,and samya path. one can choose his or her own path. but the books do say samya path the one of the mental worship is best as it deos not any killing,nor any oother ritual,but only worshipping mentally so all energy stays in us. om shakti gopal On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > > > Namaste: > > I have read the Chandi Path and it is 700 verses like the Bhagavad Gita is > as well. In the Gita Arjuna is reluctant to face battle. These verses have > long been interpreted to be a battle within the mind to reach liberation. > > The Chandi Path can be interpreted the same way. The Divine mother kills > the buffalo demon in one text, and battles with a couple of demons (and > their army) in another text. > > The battle is with one's ego--not with literal demons. One does not > literally kill a buffalo because mother killed a " buffalo demon " . The battle > is an inner battle--not an exterior one. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ > > --- On Sun, 6/21/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123<gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123<gopalnarayan123%40gmail.com> > > > > jia gurudev > > dear shankari, > > no offence to u,or anyone. > > but the blood is symbolised bcoz mother chamunda-kaali drank blood > > of raktabeej. > > similarly animals like buffallo r offered as sacrifice bcoz mother killed > > mahisasur [ demon buffalo ]. > > i request u to pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.i think > > its avialable in english also. > > om shakti > > gopal > > On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ > wrote: > > > Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive > > > deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess > sucks > > > the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming > liberated.� > > > The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. > > > > > > One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. > > > Shanti Om, > > > Shankari > > > http://shankarikali.wordpress.com/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 jai gurudev, dear janardanji, mother adi shakti is most loving and most kind. we can interpret texts as we please. only point here,is we can agree to disagree. i have been studing devi mahatamya and srimad devi bhagwat puran for over 20 yrs. and i agree that it also means our soul-shakti herself kills our false ego,and negativity-demons. ultimate focus is on mother adi shakti kulkundalini giving us salavtion in her divine shreecharan. om shakti gopal On 6/22/09, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: > > > > Hari Om. > > Respectfully, > > Generally, when discussing scripture such as Bhagavad Gita, Srimad > Bhagavatam, & Devi Bhagavatam, people do not generally boldly state what you > have just said. Even the greatest of scholars don't say like that. it is > more respectful & wise to preface your statements by saying, " it is my > opinion " , " I believe " , or " I interpreted this as.... " . Are you qualified > to assert that it is not a literal demon? Who says it is not? Many > millions of people such as myself are taught by our Gurus to believe in > theses scriptures as both literal and figurative. to deny this as literal > is to deny their very existence and actual pastimes which are a taught as a > fact. So, is that what you are saying? No. I didn't think so. Thus, for > the sake of polity, you may want to think about how you couch your words and > really understand what you are actually implying. > > Janardana Dasa > > > --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali<shankari_kali%40>> > wrote: > > Shankari Kali <shankari_kali <shankari_kali%40>> > Re: goddess and bloodthirst > <%40> > Sunday, June 21, 2009, 11:18 AM > > Namaste: > > I have read the Chandi Path and it is 700 verses like the Bhagavad Gita is > as well. In the Gita Arjuna is reluctant to face battle. These verses have > long been interpreted to be a battle within the mind to reach liberation. > > The Chandi Path can be interpreted the same way. The Divine mother kills > the buffalo demon in one text, and battles with a couple of demons (and > their army) in another text. > > The battle is with one's ego--not with literal demons. One does not > literally kill a buffalo because mother killed a " buffalo demon " . The battle > is an inner battle--not an exterior one. > > Shanti Om, > Shankari > > http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ > > --- On Sun, 6/21/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> wrote: > > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> > > jia gurudev > > dear shankari, > > no offence to u,or anyone. > > but the blood is symbolised bcoz mother chamunda-kaali drank blood > > of raktabeej. > > similarly animals like buffallo r offered as sacrifice bcoz mother killed > > mahisasur [ demon buffalo ]. > > i request u to pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.i think > > its avialable in english also. > > om shakti > > gopal > > On 6/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali@ > wrote: > > > Tantrics have always been secret, and their symbolism is repulsive > > > deliberately. Blood is a symbol of prana or life energy. The goddess > sucks > > > the life force from that which would prevent you from becoming > liberated.� > > > The demons are symbols of that which takes place within the mind. > > > > > > One should never take these literally. They were not meant to be literal. > > > Shanti Om, > > > Shankari > > > http://shankarikali .wordpress. com/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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