Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Namasthe, Have any one done Tara Sadhana? Can you please share your experiences? -- With best regards, V.Rajnikanth, yogior, yogi_or, yogi_or Mobile :+44 07595021150(London) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 jai gurudev dear friend, i have not completed tara sadhana,but i do motehr tara mantra regularly.i have had some darshan and visin of her a few times. her mantra : streem another mantra which i do : om hreem streem tarayey hum phat swaha i find the mantra very relaxing and trance giving. on 22th during eclipse i intend to do mother tara and mother shodashi mantra. mother shodaki is 15 akshar mantra which i have completed purashcharan. let us see what happens. om shakti gopal On 7/18/09, V.Rajnikanth <yogior wrote: > > > > Namasthe, > Have any one done Tara Sadhana? > Can you please share your experiences? > > -- > With best regards, > V.Rajnikanth, > yogior <yogior%40gmail.com>, > yogi_or <yogi_or%40.co.in>, > yogi_or <yogi_or%40sify.com> > Mobile :+44 07595021150(London) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Other than paying siddhashram.org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? Whenever a sdhana is mentioned here you say you have done it, with a subtle pointer to siddharshram.org. So what siddhis did you gain. If not siddhis did you gain saameepya, saaroopya or sayoojya. Certainly not the last because then you will not be sitting at the computer and doing the paid or unpaid job you are doing? What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram.org? how do you keep accounts? Why is it that your mantra pronunciations are hinkrit(a b****d form of mixed hindi and sanskrit) same as at siddhashram website? I notice that you are silent when the matter is mentioned but go on and on about doing this and that sadhana. Why not you spare us the drivel? , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > jai gurudev > > > dear friend, > > > i have not completed tara sadhana,but i do motehr tara mantra > regularly.i have had some darshan and visin of her a few times. > > > her mantra : streem > > another mantra which i do : om hreem streem tarayey hum phat swaha > > i find the mantra very relaxing and trance giving. > > on 22th during eclipse i intend to do mother tara > and mother shodashi mantra. > > mother shodaki is 15 akshar mantra which i have > completed purashcharan. > > let us see what happens. > > > > om shakti > > gopal On 7/18/09, V.Rajnikanth <yogior wrote: > > > > > > > > Namasthe, > > Have any one done Tara Sadhana? > > Can you please share your experiences? > > > > -- > > With best regards, > > V.Rajnikanth, > > yogior <yogior%40gmail.com>, > > yogi_or <yogi_or%40.co.in>, > > yogi_or <yogi_or%40sify.com> > > Mobile :+44 07595021150(London) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 dear bro, Mr Gopal is not in any way associated with the money making siddhashram. i guess he is just encouraging / motivating others in sadhana. He did not claim to have siddhis or riddhis or ask money for any advise / rituals etc. Plz be kind in your words. Do not hurt others in the forum. Everyone is amba's children. Love and respect others as well. You can place your views in a polite way. regards , hrishi --- On Sat, 7/18/09, kochu1tz <kochu1tz wrote: Other than paying siddhashram. org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? [....] What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram. org? how do you keep accounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Dear Kochananda Why are you so cynical of a realized soul like Gopal? I fail to understand why you cannot appreciate his achievements!! He is adept with worshiping of 10 mahavidyas in such a short time and is not afraid to share his mantras with others. While you, under the disguise of caution, refuse to give out mantras, he is sharing mantras because he has nothing to worry about the future of those who chant those mantras. May be you are afraid because what you have seen while chanting those mantras. One has to be valiant and not cower when SHE arrives. Like Gopal, who has seen Shivashakti. After all you are only a person who have performed about a few Sri Chakra pujas, where as he on the other hand or rather on both hands have the 10 mahavidyas on the tips of his fingers. Please do not restrict learned people like Gopal who help the uninitiated to shed karma quicker than one can say " ouch. " Sincerely Yours G , " kochu1tz " <kochu1tz wrote: > > Other than paying siddhashram.org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? Whenever a sdhana is mentioned here you say you have done it, with a subtle pointer to siddharshram.org. So what siddhis did you gain. If not siddhis did you gain saameepya, saaroopya or sayoojya. Certainly not the last because then you will not be sitting at the computer and doing the paid or unpaid job you are doing? > > What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram.org? how do you keep accounts? > > Why is it that your mantra pronunciations are hinkrit(a b****d form of mixed hindi and sanskrit) same as at siddhashram website? > > I notice that you are silent when the matter is mentioned but go on and on about doing this and that sadhana. > > Why not you spare us the drivel? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 If I may barge in, it seems to me that whatever sadhana one is doing it is always better NOT to mention any achievement obtained In fact it is an integral part of the Tantric Vows one takes in Tibetan Tantric Buddhism I have practised some Tara Sadhanas for almost thirty years now but I certainly not going to boast of any achievement on a mailing list.. So if it's always good to share whatever knowledge we have regarding practices (if there is no breach of secrecy vow) but to claim to be a yogin while one is not is also against one of Tantric Vows in Tibetan Buddhism. I am surprised it appears there is no Tantric Vow in Hindu Tantric practices ... Any one who can confirm or infirm this new point of view of mine ? All the best, Roger Garin-Michaud From Brisbane Australia Hindu bibliography at : http://www.golden-wheel.net/hindbib1.html Hindu websites directory at : http://www.golden-wheel.net/hinddir.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 LMAO! --- On Sat, 7/18/09, ganpra <ganpra wrote: ganpra <ganpra Re: Tara Sadhana Saturday, July 18, 2009, 2:48 PM Dear Kochananda Why are you so cynical of a realized soul like Gopal? I fail to understand why you cannot appreciate his achievements! ! He is adept with worshiping of 10 mahavidyas in such a short time and is not afraid to share his mantras with others. While you, under the disguise of caution, refuse to give out mantras, he is sharing mantras because he has nothing to worry about the future of those who chant those mantras. May be you are afraid because what you have seen while chanting those mantras. One has to be valiant and not cower when SHE arrives. Like Gopal, who has seen Shivashakti. After all you are only a person who have performed about a few Sri Chakra pujas, where as he on the other hand or rather on both hands have the 10 mahavidyas on the tips of his fingers. Please do not restrict learned people like Gopal who help the uninitiated to shed karma quicker than one can say " ouch. " Sincerely Yours G , " kochu1tz " <kochu1tz@.. .> wrote: > > Other than paying siddhashram. org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? Whenever a sdhana is mentioned here you say you have done it, with a subtle pointer to siddharshram. org. So what siddhis did you gain. If not siddhis did you gain saameepya, saaroopya or sayoojya. Certainly not the last because then you will not be sitting at the computer and doing the paid or unpaid job you are doing? > > What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram. org? how do you keep accounts? > > Why is it that your mantra pronunciations are hinkrit(a b****d form of mixed hindi and sanskrit) same as at siddhashram website? > > I notice that you are silent when the matter is mentioned but go on and on about doing this and that sadhana. > > Why not you spare us the drivel? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 It is certainly part of the Hindu Tantric traditions, to keep secrecy about certain things. But what those things are vary from lineage to lineage. Some are totally secret - sadhakas are not even allowed to reveal that they are sadhakas. Others are more open and will talk about almost anything, but not reveal key elements to non-initiates. Many are in between. Secrecy also varies in Buddhist Tantra, certainly. I offer (playfully) that some would say that mentioning a sadhana of thirty years would be a boast in and of itself, regardless of whether one mentioned any siddhis. I have met great sadhakas who are reluctant to reveal that they are sadhakas, and don't talk about any of their practice at all, including how long they have been working at their sadhana, because they believe that even this small thing will increase their ego and destroy all the many years of work, and so they play dumb about it, which can lead to some interesting situations with hotshot young yogis/yoginis, as you can imagine, often with some rather hilarious effects. In any case, it took me years before I could deeply understand why practicing bija mantras I found on the internet or in books was more often than not a not-so-great idea, and to see how it could be harmful to my practice. But it's difficult to explain this to others, especially those new and eager and full of voracious appetite for knowledge, who are convinced that " it can't hurt anything, " but have no ability to see the future of their practice, and how forming incorrect habits or assumptions will harm them in the future. Not to mention the energies that they may unlock but not have the foundation with which to process and direct those energies. It's rather like adolescence, and I say this having been through it myself. I think a lot of times we just have to find these things out through experience. It's like anything else in life. In my experience, the great catch-22 in Tantra is that we must liberate ourselves, but we can't liberate ourselves. Sadhakas will tend to know my meaning. I have found for myself that it's quite a meaningful paradox that challenges the ego a great deal. In any case, I trust that MAA has it all in hand, in HER lila. jai MAA Kamakhya -kulasundari Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Roger Garin-Michaud < wangchuk59 wrote: > > > If I may barge in, it seems to me that whatever sadhana one is doing it is > always better NOT to mention any achievement obtained > In fact it is an integral part of the Tantric Vows one takes in Tibetan > Tantric Buddhism > I have practised some Tara Sadhanas for almost thirty years now but I > certainly not going to boast of any achievement on a mailing list.. > So if it's always good to share whatever knowledge we have regarding > practices (if there is no breach of secrecy vow) > but to claim to be a yogin while one is not is also against one of Tantric > Vows in Tibetan Buddhism. > > I am surprised it appears there is no Tantric Vow in Hindu Tantric > practices ... > Any one who can confirm or infirm this new point of view of mine ? > > All the best, > Roger Garin-Michaud > From Brisbane Australia > Hindu bibliography at : > http://www.golden-wheel.net/hindbib1.html > Hindu websites directory at : > http://www.golden-wheel.net/hinddir.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 yes encouraging and motivating to visit siddhashram.org. Then the payment is just a step away.Anyway i am going into mauna. I think this is not good for me. I would like to add that I am NOT talking about the need for secrecy but for the need for discretion of learning from a Guru who is NOT interested in money. This need was recognised by me when i saw many ppl being misled by nonsense passing for mantras. Anyway now onwards zipppppppppppppp is the rule.(I got scolded by someone () --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Hrishikesh - <hrishikesh83 wrote: Hrishikesh - <hrishikesh83 Re: Re: Tara Sadhana Saturday, July 18, 2009, 11:49 PM dear bro, Mr Gopal is not in any way associated with the money making siddhashram. i guess he is just encouraging / motivating others in sadhana. He did not claim to have siddhis or riddhis or ask money for any advise / rituals etc. Plz be kind in your words. Do not hurt others in the forum. Everyone is amba's children. Love and respect others as well. You can place your views in a polite way. regards , hrishi --- On Sat, 7/18/09, kochu1tz <kochu1tz > wrote: Other than paying siddhashram. org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? [....] What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram. org? how do you keep accounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 " when i saw many ppl being misled by nonsense passing for mantras. " That would make us two storm crows.....:-) And I'm proud to be in your exalted company, Dear Kochananda. , sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > yes encouraging and motivating to visit siddhashram.org. Then the payment is just a step away.Anyway i am going into mauna. I think this is not good for me. > I would like to add that I am NOT talking about the need for secrecy but for the need for discretion of learning from a Guru who is NOT interested in money. > This need was recognised by me when i saw many ppl being misled by nonsense passing for mantras. > Anyway now onwards zipppppppppppppp is the rule.(I got scolded by someone () > > --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Hrishikesh - <hrishikesh83 wrote: > > > Hrishikesh - <hrishikesh83 > Re: Re: Tara Sadhana > > Saturday, July 18, 2009, 11:49 PM > > > > > > > dear bro, > > Mr Gopal is not in any way associated with the money making siddhashram. i guess he is just encouraging / motivating others in sadhana. He did not claim to have siddhis or riddhis or ask money for any advise / rituals etc. > > Plz be kind in your words. Do not hurt others in the forum. Everyone is amba's children. Love and respect others as well. You can place your views in a polite way. > > > > regards , > > hrishi > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/18/09, kochu1tz <kochu1tz > wrote: > > Other than paying siddhashram. org money for nonsense (if you are doing it) what have you gained with each of these sadhanas? [....] > > What do you get a commission on what some poor soul pays hoping for something paid to siddhashram. org? how do you keep accounts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 jai gurudev dear friend, the siddhashram site may have any mantras,i dont encourage anyone pay money. i am a brahmin by birth,but being a shakti sadhak mother says never to discriminate and always treat all as equal,we can glean this fact from srimad devi bhagwat puran,sri devi geeta etc. my kuldevi is mother adi shakti mahatripurasundari who is all prevading herself. i am also initiated into 10 mahavidya upasana by my mothers uncle,who at age 96 yrs is still hale and hearty. my paternal grandfather also was a great upasak of mother, but he passed away when i was only 3 yrs old,he went to mother's abode at age 86.so i did not have the saubhagya to learn from him,buit also i learnt a lot from my father. i am from maharishi gautam gotra,again i am not boasting. as u maybe aware,he is considered one of the great devotees and chiranjeevis [ one who lives forever ]. i am informing u for me gurudev does not mean only gurudev narayandutt shrimaliji,but also lord dattatreya, lord parshuran,lord gautam rishi and the 9 nath whose tradition we follow in our sadhana. i am gujarati,and not north or south indian but pronounciation may vary from reguion to region. mother sees the bhava of child first and foremost, then the pronounciation,and even if there is a mistake she always forrgives and we also do kshama prarthna at end of the pooja and offer the mantra to mother so as to remove any dosha etc. i know of a friend who took down mantra of mother baglamukhi from net and also her yantra and picture,and did it and won a case and got back rs14 lakh,whch some one was not giving.this after 2 yrs of court case he cud not win but by mother baglamukhi's grace he won.i had also helped him get the pooja articles. finally,to tell u the truth,sanatan dharma and sadhana itself is under very grave danger,and i have received instructions from my family gurus and also from mother many times to share with all and not to worry,bcoz finally all is controlled by mother herself.if we have true faith in her we will spread her divine word and that is what i am doing. again i am not boasting but i have donated over 5000 books of sri durga saptashati,lalita sahastranam,etc to all and those who r interested in last 25 yrs. and also healped many friend etc to learn 10 mahavidya,kundalini yog etc for free,never charging even 1 rupee till date. i am age 42 right now. so let us all spread divine word of mother. u can say anything u want,but as a humble child of mataji it is my duty never to be angry or upset by anyon'e words,as all this is just leela of mother. i am doing sadhana from age 14-15 yes i can say i have gained samipya sayujya and saroopya in her.i have had darshan of her divine majesty many times and i do not want to boast but i have seen miracles like curing-healing of disease,etc in this life itself,and many other miracles,but i do not discuss much as i do not want to bore all with this. i do not consider myself different from my mother,and the sriyantra and she is in us only,not different from us. so let us spread divine mother's words. om shakti gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 So I take this too as the divine mother leela? -- In , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > jai gurudev > > > dear friend, > > > the siddhashram site may have any mantras,i dont encourage anyone > pay money. > > i am a brahmin by birth,but being a shakti sadhak mother says never > to discriminate and always treat all as equal,we can glean this fact > from srimad devi bhagwat puran,sri devi geeta etc. > > my kuldevi is mother adi shakti mahatripurasundari who is all > prevading herself. > > i am also initiated into 10 mahavidya upasana by my mothers > uncle,who at age 96 yrs is still hale and hearty. > > my paternal grandfather also was a great upasak of mother, > but he passed away when i was only 3 yrs old,he went > to mother's abode at age 86.so i did not have the saubhagya > to learn from him,buit also i learnt a lot from my father. > > > > i am from maharishi gautam gotra,again i am not boasting. > as u maybe aware,he is considered one of the great devotees > and chiranjeevis [ one who lives forever ]. > > i am informing u for me gurudev does not mean only > gurudev narayandutt shrimaliji,but also lord dattatreya, > lord parshuran,lord gautam rishi and the 9 nath whose > tradition we follow in our sadhana. > > i am gujarati,and not north or south indian but pronounciation > may vary from reguion to region. > > mother sees the bhava of child first and foremost, > then the pronounciation,and even if there is a mistake > she always forrgives and we also do kshama prarthna > at end of the pooja and offer the mantra to mother > so as to remove any dosha etc. > > i know of a friend who took down mantra of mother baglamukhi from net > and also her yantra and picture,and did it and won a case and got back > rs14 lakh,whch some one was not giving.this after 2 yrs of court case > he cud not win but by mother baglamukhi's grace he won.i had also > helped him get the pooja articles. > > > finally,to tell u the truth,sanatan dharma and sadhana itself > is under very grave danger,and i have received instructions > from my family gurus and also from mother many times > to share with all and not to worry,bcoz finally all is > controlled by mother herself.if we have true faith in her > we will spread her divine word and that is what i am doing. > > again i am not boasting but i have donated over 5000 > books of sri durga saptashati,lalita sahastranam,etc > to all and those who r interested in last 25 yrs. > and also healped many friend etc to learn 10 > mahavidya,kundalini yog etc for free,never charging > even 1 rupee till date. > > i am age 42 right now. > > so let us all spread divine word of mother. > > u can say anything u want,but as a humble > child of mataji it is my duty never to be angry > or upset by anyon'e words,as all this is just leela > of mother. > > i am doing sadhana from age 14-15 yes i can > say i have gained samipya sayujya and saroopya in > her.i have had darshan of her divine majesty many > times and i do not want to boast but i have seen > miracles like curing-healing of disease,etc in this > life itself,and many other miracles,but i do not > discuss much as i do not want to bore all with > this. > > i do not consider myself different from my mother,and > the sriyantra and she is in us only,not different from us. > > so let us spread divine mother's words. > > > > om shakti > > gopal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 jai gurudev dear friend, yes everything is a leela of mother. she is ved and aved,truth and falsehood r part of her,the gods,asuras, yaksha,gandharva,manav,davan,earth entire unievrse is part of her. she is the 3 gunas and beyond them.all that exists is a fraction of her divinity. it is not me who says this,she has herself said this,pls read sridevi atharvasheesh.its in atharvaved. we r just her humble children and we can never know her leela which even lords brahma vishnu maharudra dont know. all is her. om shakti gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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