Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 yes it seems the wisest thing is not to mention AT ALL our practice, that would avoid any further problems down the track.. Thanks for sharing your experience ! BTW would you allow me to list your website in my directory of Hindu websites ? Roger ________________________________ Kulasundari Devi <sundari It is certainly part of the Hindu Tantric traditions, to keep secrecy about certain things. But what those things are vary from lineage to lineage. Some are totally secret - sadhakas are not even allowed to reveal that they are sadhakas. Others are more open and will talk about almost anything, but not reveal key elements to non-initiates. Many are in between. Secrecy also varies in Buddhist Tantra, certainly. I offer (playfully) that some would say that mentioning a sadhana of thirty years would be a boast in and of itself, regardless of whether one mentioned any siddhis. I have met great sadhakas who are reluctant to reveal that they are sadhakas, and don't talk about any of their practice at all, including how long they have been working at their sadhana, because they believe that even this small thing will increase their ego and destroy all the many years of work, and so they play dumb about it, which can lead to some interesting situations with hotshot young yogis/yoginis, as you can imagine, often with some rather hilarious effects. In any case, it took me years before I could deeply understand why practicing bija mantras I found on the internet or in books was more often than not a not-so-great idea, and to see how it could be harmful to my practice. But it's difficult to explain this to others, [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 I have no problems with sadhakas mentioning our practice or talking about it in general or even specific terms, actually, if we're taking all factors into consideration about what is being shared... there's a lot of good that can come from being more in the open about certain aspects, such as increasing the amount of education about what exactly we do (that is, de-sensationalizing it). However, being very conscious about the sharing is a good thing! Please do list our website in your directory, thank you! jai MAA Kamakhya -kulasundari Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Roger Garin-Michaud < wangchuk59 wrote: > > > yes it seems the wisest thing is not to mention AT ALL our practice, that > would avoid any further problems down the track.. > Thanks for sharing your experience ! > > BTW would you allow me to list your website in my directory of Hindu > websites ? > > Roger > > ________________________________ > Kulasundari Devi <sundari<sundari%40kamakhyamandir.org> > > > > It is certainly part of the Hindu Tantric traditions, to keep secrecy about > certain things. But what those things are vary from lineage to lineage. > Some > are totally secret - sadhakas are not even allowed to reveal that they are > sadhakas. Others are more open and will talk about almost anything, but not > reveal key elements to non-initiates. Many are in between. Secrecy also > varies in Buddhist Tantra, certainly. > I offer (playfully) that some would say that mentioning a sadhana of thirty > years would be a boast in and of itself, regardless of whether one > mentioned > any siddhis. I have met great sadhakas who are reluctant to reveal that > they are sadhakas, and don't talk about any of their practice at all, > including how long they have been working at their sadhana, because they > believe that even this small thing will increase their ego and destroy all > the many years of work, and so they play dumb about it, which can lead to > some interesting situations with hotshot young yogis/yoginis, as you can > imagine, often with some rather hilarious effects. > > In any case, it took me years before I could deeply understand why > practicing bija mantras I found on the internet or in books was more often > than not a not-so-great idea, and to see how it could be harmful to my > practice. But it's difficult to explain this to others, [....] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 jai gurudev dear kulasundari, i agree with u 100%,we shud share our divine experiences. the sadhana path is very small and the upasak r also very few,if we shut out each other how will we be able to spread the word of divine mother,and help next generation of sadhakas-upasakas ?? so,i think,its ok,to share with friends. om shakti gopal On 7/19/09, Kulasundari Devi <sundari wrote: > > > I have no problems with sadhakas mentioning our practice or talking about > it > in general or even specific terms, actually, if we're taking all factors > into consideration about what is being shared... there's a lot of good that > can come from being more in the open about certain aspects, such as > increasing the amount of education about what exactly we do (that is, > de-sensationalizing it). However, being very conscious about the sharing is > a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Gopal, the second part of my statement is as important - if not moreso - as the first. Which is, we should be very conscious about what we share (and thus, also, what we do NOT share). Keeping in mind that there are people of all levels of experience on this list, one wouldn't want to share certain things that may mislead or misinform others, particularly if taken out of context. And it's also not always wise to share one's own experiences not just out of harm for others, but at the risk of harming oneself. That all being said, I don't have issue with sharing one's experiences, per se, but each of us has to be the judge of whether to share or not share, and how much to share. The Tantras themselves are a good example of this - much is hidden in the language, and how that is interpreted often depends on which sampradaya is doing the interpretation. Beyond that, as someone pointed out elsewhere, it's a responsibility that the community has to warn others about using secret or powerful bija mantras and sadhanas without proper guidance. In some traditions, bija mantras should only be used in the context of a larger ritual, where protections and invocations are used. Reciting them without proper context is like spinning one's wheels in the sand. There is no moving forward, only digging oneself deeper. This can feel like progress to someone who isn't properly prepared, but one has to consider the direction they're moving in. Of course, this is only my opinion, and I know very, very little. jai MAA Kamesvari -kulasundari Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:14 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123wrote: > > > jai gurudev > > dear kulasundari, > > i agree with u 100%,we shud share our divine experiences. > > the sadhana path is very small and the upasak r also > very few,if we shut out each other how will we be able > to spread the word of divine mother,and help next > generation of sadhakas-upasakas ?? > > so,i think,its ok,to share with friends. > > om shakti > > gopal > > > On 7/19/09, Kulasundari Devi <sundari<sundari%40kamakhyamandir.org>> > wrote: > > > > > > I have no problems with sadhakas mentioning our practice or talking about > > it > > in general or even specific terms, actually, if we're taking all factors > > into consideration about what is being shared... there's a lot of good > that > > can come from being more in the open about certain aspects, such as > > increasing the amount of education about what exactly we do (that is, > > de-sensationalizing it). However, being very conscious about the sharing > is > > a good thing! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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