Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing kidney dialysis? For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. My kidney fuctions are pretty poor, and the technicians hook me up for about three hours and filter my blood. I recall hearing that devotees who are actively bleeding should not offer puja to the deities. (This also explains why menstruating women are not encouraged to give pujas.) Since I am " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait before I can do pujas, or participate in one? Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to remove the obstacles to my good heath? -- Len/ Black Lotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 there is no bar to ur doing anything. ganapathy knows English well it is better to use English as using sanskrit and misspelling is not good. --- On Fri, 8/21/09, kalipadma108 <kalipadma108 wrote: kalipadma108 <kalipadma108 Sacrifices and bloodletting Friday, August 21, 2009, 8:44 PM Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing kidney dialysis? For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. My kidney fuctions are pretty poor, and the technicians hook me up for about three hours and filter my blood. I recall hearing that devotees who are actively bleeding should not offer puja to the deities. (This also explains why menstruating women are not encouraged to give pujas.) Since I am " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait before I can do pujas, or participate in one? Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to remove the obstacles to my good heath? -- Len/ Black Lotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Namaste: I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the morning. For Ganesh, I would suggest you do the 108 names or any Ganesh mantra, and maybe offer sweets or fruit to Ganesh on his day. I would highly encourage a vegetarian diet particularly if you have kidney trouble. Too much protein can damage the kidneys. shanti om, shankari kali http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1235552912 --- On Fri, 8/21/09, kalipadma108 <kalipadma108 wrote: Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing kidney dialysis? For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. [....] Since I am " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait before I can do pujas, or participate in one? Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to remove the obstacles to my good heath? -- Len/ Black Lotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? Max >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the >morning. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision http://www.suppressedhistories.net Women's Power DVD http://www.suppressedhistories.net/womenspowerdvd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 There is no need to have second thoughts about worshiping or participating in prayers. Please feel free to chant, worship, participate in prayers. Listen to Rudra-chamakam and purusha suktham. , " kalipadma108 " <kalipadma108 wrote: > > Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing kidney dialysis? > > For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. My kidney fuctions are pretty poor, and the technicians hook me up for about three hours and filter my blood. I recall hearing that devotees who are actively bleeding should not offer puja to the deities. (This also explains why menstruating women are not encouraged to give pujas.) Since I am " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait before I can do pujas, or participate in one? > > Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. > > Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to remove the obstacles to my good heath? > > -- Len/ Black Lotus > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 whenever wherever you offer worship SHE accepts it. Even if u feel like doing it in the loo do it. As long as LOVE and Devotion are there it matters not where how and when. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Max Dashu <maxdashu wrote: Max Dashu <maxdashu Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:12 AM Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? Max >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the >morning. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision http://www.suppress edhistories. net Women's Power DVD http://www.suppress edhistories. net/womenspowerd vd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 oh i forgot to add. You can offer mantras in French English Russian whatever. SHE understands all that!! --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: Shankari Kali <shankari_kali Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:40 PM Namaste: I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the morning. For Ganesh, I would suggest you do the 108 names or any Ganesh mantra, and maybe offer sweets or fruit to Ganesh on his day. I would highly encourage a vegetarian diet particularly if you have kidney trouble. Too much protein can damage the kidneys. shanti om, shankari kali http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=123555291 2 --- On Fri, 8/21/09, kalipadma108 <kalipadma108@ > wrote: Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing kidney dialysis? For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. [....] Since I am " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait before I can do pujas, or participate in one? Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to remove the obstacles to my good heath? -- Len/ Black Lotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I want to echo what everyone else here has said. Perform puja daily as you are able and MAA will accept all of it. There are some who say that bleeding is polluting, but in my tradition that is not the case. MAA accepts all humble, sincere worship regardless of whether you are sick or healthy. If you are having a hard time feeling like you are somehow polluted (even though you are not), then be sure to recite purification mantras or if you are unfamiliar with that practice, do some symbolic act of purification (a bath, washing hands, feet & mouth, etc) before beginning your main worship. It's good to do puja to Ganesh to help your dialysis along smoothly. I would also say that performing at least one mala of Mahamrityunjaya mantra would be helpful: http://kamakhyamandir.org/vidya/mahamrityunjaya-mantra/ <http://kamakhyamandir.org/vidya/mahamrityunjaya-mantra/>Here are two pranama mantras to Ganesha: http://kamakhyamandir.org/vidya/ganesha-mantra/ For me these have been very powerfully soothing mantras. The second would be very appropriate before beginning dialysis, and then saying Mahamrityunjaya mantra during the process to bring you health with the blood coming back into your system would in my opinion be a healthful practice. Wishing you a lot of health, healing and recovery. I will recite Mahamrityunjaya tonight for your health and for everyone in this forum who needs healing. jai MAA -kulasundari On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:14 AM, kalipadma108 <kalipadma108wrote: > > > Namaste! Does anyone here know how the Gods deal with bhaktas undergoing > kidney dialysis? > > For a few months now, I've been going three times a week for dialysis. My > kidney fuctions are pretty poor, and the technicians hook me up for about > three hours and filter my blood. I recall hearing that devotees who are > actively bleeding should not offer puja to the deities. (This also explains > why menstruating women are not encouraged to give pujas.) Since I am > " bleeding " every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, how long to I have to wait > before I can do pujas, or participate in one? > > Should I limit myself to vegetarian deities? I am not vegetarian, myself. > > Ganesh Chaturthi is coming this Sunday. Is there a shloka asking Ganesha to > remove the obstacles to my good heath? > > -- Len/ Black Lotus > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I agree with every single word of this... jai MAAAAAAAA... On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:50 PM, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > > whenever wherever you offer worship SHE accepts it. Even if u feel like > doing it in the loo do it. As long as LOVE and Devotion are there it matters > not where how and when. > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Max Dashu <maxdashu <maxdashu%40lmi.net>> > wrote: > > Max Dashu <maxdashu <maxdashu%40lmi.net>> > Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting > > <%40> > Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:12 AM > > > > Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives > prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How > could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? > > Max > > >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when > >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the > >morning. > > -- > Max Dashu > Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision > http://www.suppress edhistories. net > > Women's Power DVD > http://www.suppress edhistories. net/womenspowerd vd.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 ...... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... ...... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo for that matter ... --- On Sun, 23/8/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Sunday, 23 August, 2009, 10:20 AM whenever wherever you offer worship SHE accepts it. Even if u feel like doing it in the loo do it. As long as LOVE and Devotion are there it matters not where how and when. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> wrote: Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:12 AM Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? Max >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the >morning. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision http://www.suppress edhistories. net Women's Power DVD http://www.suppress edhistories. net/womenspowerd vd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 jai gurudev om shiv goraksh pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran,the divine phylosophy is given very clealry and simply. om shakti gopal On 8/24/09, Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya wrote: > > > > ..... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... > ..... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo for > that matter ... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 WHy Srimad Devi Purana..........should we not be referring to the Tantras? , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > jai gurudev > > > om shiv goraksh > > > pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran,the divine phylosophy is given > very clealry and simply. > > om shakti > > gopal > > > > On 8/24/09, Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya wrote: > > > > > > > > ..... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... > > ..... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo for > > that matter ... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 jai gurudev tantra means technique,and is realted to sadhana-meditation sacrifice etc....ie technical issues. for philosophical and theory issues u can read srimad devi bhagwat puran to know more details abt divine mother. thus yr knowledge of tekniks for doing mantras and for whom u r doing mantras both will be complete. its like this : u have a product,u have a product manual,and also its history its development,history etc. same for sadhana. it has minimum 2 parts : 1 : the philosophy 2 : the teknik - known as tantra infact in india tantri or tantirk also means engineer. i hope this answers yr question. om shakti gopal On 8/25/09, thegoddessisinme2002 <nora wrote: > > > > WHy Srimad Devi Purana..........should we not be referring to the Tantras? > > <%40>, > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > > > jai gurudev > > > > > > om shiv goraksh > > > > > > pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran,the divine phylosophy is given > > very clealry and simply. > > > > om shakti > > > > gopal > > > > > > > > On 8/24/09, Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... > > > ..... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo > for > > > that matter ... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I am talking of upasana and devotion and NOT kamya sadhana --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya wrote: Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Monday, August 24, 2009, 3:26 PM ...... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... ...... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo for that matter ... --- On Sun, 23/8/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Sunday, 23 August, 2009, 10:20 AM whenever wherever you offer worship SHE accepts it. Even if u feel like doing it in the loo do it. As long as LOVE and Devotion are there it matters not where how and when. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> wrote: Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:12 AM Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? Max >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the >morning. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision http://www.suppress edhistories. net Women's Power DVD http://www.suppress edhistories. net/womenspowerd vd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I never knew Tantra was only for Kamya proyogas!!, but anyway .... The problem here is of doing vs thinking...most people can think a lot of things but do very little ... one can think oneself to be a great bhakta, think a lot about god, yet do little about it (i.e do some upasana). Thinking about god is still thinking, still trapped in one's thoughts...one must follow that thought to its end to get beyond the thought... Gauna bhakti without any karma is just imagination ... not too different from a imagination of a novel writer...it will take you the same state of anubhuti, the same place in the antahkarana. People may not agree, that's fine. But both vedic and tantric paths are establishing the thought in rituals and beyond rituals in everyday work. Imaginations are the medieval invention which along with paurahitya vada (restricting upasana to one's clan) has destroyed our religions into a joke. Its better to roll in a church if rolling is what we are interested in. --- On Wed, 26/8/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 4:00 AM I am talking of upasana and devotion and NOT kamya sadhana --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya@ .co. in> wrote: Saikat Maitra <singhi_kaya@ .co. in> Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Monday, August 24, 2009, 3:26 PM ....... and I was beginning to wonder if shiva was a fool after all ... ....... to reveal so many tantras when one could do anything in the loo for that matter ... --- On Sun, 23/8/09, sankara menon <kochu1tz > wrote: sankara menon <kochu1tz > Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Sunday, 23 August, 2009, 10:20 AM whenever wherever you offer worship SHE accepts it. Even if u feel like doing it in the loo do it. As long as LOVE and Devotion are there it matters not where how and when. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> wrote: Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> Re: Sacrifices and bloodletting Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:12 AM Kulasundari, i doubt you are the renegade on this. Maa receives prayers and puja whenever her children desire to offer them. How could she turn them away, even more so those who are suffering? Max >I'm probably the renegade around here, but I would say do puja when >you want to do puja. It's really, really peaceful early in the >morning. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives: Real women, global vision http://www.suppress edhistories. net Women's Power DVD http://www.suppress edhistories. net/womenspowerd vd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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