Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 dear salharmonica It is not easy at all and practically impossible to explain everything here, at least the desire in you now for attaining knowledge is appreciable. For that I suppose you have to find out a good guru (which is extremely difficult and have been discussed long back in this forum) and get initiated since Iam not at all a knowledgable person to advice you.(nobody here is more knowledgable or less knowledgable) we are here to discuss and share ideas and to understand or get guidance for undertanding in the right way. Please keep an open mind for that. Here I felt suddenly like a fresh student coming inside my martial arts class for the blue belts and asking about the preliminary stance... I hope you are well aware of the hindu texts which is quite interesting and at the same time tough in percieving. Funniest thing is that the same thing when taught to diferent people will be understood in different ways; in their own manner. And lastly we cannot get to know things like this as we study mathematics. If you want to be a desirous person there is no harm in it and if you dont like Krishna also there is absolutely no harm in it, you are free to choose. Krishna whether a real person or a symbolic character is the universal representation of love and whatever type of love YOU give him he will return back, for that please dont tarnish him and degrade him as a casanova sort of thing. That character is basically depicted for the elimination of crime and evil in those times and which happens " Yuge Yuge " . Regarding desire first you have to realise your purpose of life then we can discuss. The basic aspect of spirituality is NOT to look at Gods with our view point as humans, but to promote ourselves to his level and view from that level. pranam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I wasn't tarnishing Krishna at all. I pray to Krishna every day (along with Devi), so that would be hypocritical of me. I think the Universe has a sense of humor, so I don't think the Lord would be offended by my choice of words. At the same time, I have noticed a personal tendency to be less respectful of gods than goddesses- I'm trying hard to change this. Yes, I understand what you're saying. It can be hard to understand all this- even though I've tried. It helps to have people to talk about it with, but like I said before, it can be hard to find beginner-level people to connect with. " Regarding desire first you have to realise your purpose of life then we can discuss. " Do you need to know my personal purpose? Because I do know my personal purpose, but I prefer not to talk about what it is (it takes away the power). At the same time, I'm interested in knowing what you would have said if I had chosen to discuss my purpose on this forum. , aswin menon <asmenn15 wrote: > > dear salharmonica > It is not easy at all and practically impossible to explain everything here, at least the desire in you now for attaining knowledge is appreciable. > For that I suppose you have to find out a good guru ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I should also add- I don't consider it desecration to say that Krsna had lots of lovers- it he did, that's fine by me. I just find it hard to reconcile that particular fact with his actions. This doesn't mean I don't love Lord Krsna- I'm just trying to find answers to questions that have been living in my mind since I started exploring the roots of the religion I was brought up in. But, as I'm finding, getting these answers may be a lifetimes-long process. Which is fine with me. :-) Salma , aswin menon <asmenn15 wrote: > >> If you want to be a desirous person there is no harm in it and if you dont like Krishna also there is absolutely no harm in it, you are free to choose. > Krishna whether a real person or a symbolic character is the universal representation of love and whatever type of love YOU give him he will return back, for that please dont tarnish him and degrade him as a casanova sort of thing. That character is basically depicted for the elimination of crime and evil in those times and which happens " Yuge Yuge " . > Regarding desire first you have to realise your purpose of life then we can discuss. > The basic aspect of spirituality is NOT to look at Gods with our view point as humans, but to promote ourselves to his level and view from that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 dear salma Your point is clear; but what I meant is we need to have a guru to guide us properly without which our quest will be dangerous as well as fruitless; especially since you are having lots of queries. Why don't you visit devipuram once; or have you laready been there?? To find out the roots of the religion is pretty difficlut task becoz we say it is sanadhana dharma which is something exisitng from time immemmorial and never ending. which makes it clear that with only the story of Krishna and the war it is impossible to understand. Well my question about purpose of life was simple whether you opt for a spiritual path or otherwise? If it is spiritual then the whole question of desire will have to be discarded and if not well..you can pursue your ambitions/goals/dreams/desires and get along as a normal being and be a part of the cycle. Now do not get confused by the word discarded becoz what I mean is try to enjoy things without the element of desire and without the probability matrix for the end results whatever it maybe. thank you for the interest in the subject pranam , " sd " <salharmonica wrote: > > I wasn't tarnishing Krishna at all. I pray to Krishna every day (along with Devi), so that would be hypocritical of me. I think the U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 dear slama gods and goddessess are just elevated human beings and also part of the supreme consciousness which we all acknowledge. so they have to be looked upon with their purpose of incarnation and the timely significance. For the Hindus they are innumerable in number unlike in other religions; to cater to the varied interests of people. it is merely a matter of choice and you are free to choose any diety of your interest. devotion depends on the manner in which you pratice it also making it different from people to people. you can see him as a friend, guide,father,brother,lover etc this is applicable to Krishna, but for others it is different. fo eg siva,kalbhairava etc where do not usually be so close and keep a distance and respect. now again dont get confused with the word respect.. basically we respect each and everyone we come across in our life since they are all par of the supreme, right? lastly about creativity- it does not always come form desire sometimes it just happens from the deep within and sometimes as a part of the balance left out in the previous births and also perhaps as an after effect of personal experiences in life. pranam , " sd " <salharmonica wrote: > > I wasn't tarnishing Krishna at all. I pray to Krishna every day (along with Devi), so that would be hypocritical of me. I think the Universe has a sense of humor, so I don't think the Lord would be offended by my choice of words. At the same time, I have noticed a personal tendency to be less respectful of gods than goddesses- I'm trying hard to change this. > > Yes, I understand what you're saying. It can be hard to understand all this- even though I've tried. It helps to have people to talk about it with, but like I said before, it can be hard to find beginner-level people to connect with. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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