charvaka/lokayata

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Please discuss about charvaka/lokayata philosophy.

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Sanjeev

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Charvaka (one with lovely words)

 

  " Yaavajjeevam sukham Jeevet rinam krutvaa ghrutam pibet

   Bhasmeebhootasya dehasya punaraagamanam kutah? "

 

While life remains, let a man live happily,

let him feed on butter though he runs in debt;

When once the body becomes ashes,

how can it ever return again.

 

" Anganaalinganaat janyam sukhameva pumarthataa "

 

 Pleasesure of embracing women is the purpose of life.

 

 

If a beast slain in the Jyothishtoma rite will itself go to heaven,

why then does not the sacrificer forthwith offer his own father?

If the Sraddha produces gratification to beings who are dead,

then why not give food down below to those who are standing on the house-top?

 

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, rohri mani <rohri_mani wrote:

 

 

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Please discuss about charvaka/lokayata philosophy.

Regards

Sanjeev

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Chaarvaaka (one with lovely speach)

 

“Na Swargo naapavargo vaa naivaatmaa paaralaukikah

Naiva varnaashramaadeenaam kriyaashcha phaladaayikaahâ€

 

There is no heaven, no liberation, no soul going to another world,

Nor do the prescribed rituals produce any effect.

 

Gachchataamiha jantoonaam vyartham paatheya kalpanam

Gehastha-kruta shraaddhena pathi triptiravaaritaa

 

“Paatheya shraaddha†done for the dead is meaningless

as if the shraaddha can be done for travellers when they start,

It is needless to give the food for the journey.

 

“Ashvasyaatra hi shishnam tu pathneegraahyam prakeerthitham

maamsaanaam khaadanam tadvat nishaacharasameeritham

Bhandaistadvat param chaiva graahyajaatham prakeerthithamâ€

 

The obscene rites prescribed for the queen in  Ashvamedha,

Eating of flesh like night-prowling demons in yajnya -

These were invented by buffoons, so also the gifts to priests.

 

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, rohri mani <rohri_mani wrote:

 

Please discuss about charvaka/lokayata philosophy.

Regards

Sanjeev

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Thank you very much Sriramji. It is very interesting to note that such

philosophy existed in india.

REgards

Sanjeev

 

--- On Fri, 11/27/09, Sriram Dongre <sriramadongre wrote:

Chaarvaaka (one with lovely speach)

 

 

 

“Na Swargo naapavargo vaa naivaatmaa paaralaukikah

 

Naiva varnaashramaadeenaa m kriyaashcha phaladaayikaahâ€

 

 

 

There is no heaven, no liberation, no soul going to another world,

 

Nor do the prescribed rituals produce any effect.

 

 

 

Gachchataamiha jantoonaam vyartham paatheya kalpanam

 

Gehastha-kruta shraaddhena pathi triptiravaaritaa

 

 

 

“Paatheya shraaddha†done for the dead is meaningless

 

as if the shraaddha can be done for travellers when they start,

 

It is needless to give the food for the journey.

 

 

 

“Ashvasyaatra hi shishnam tu pathneegraahyam prakeerthitham

 

maamsaanaam khaadanam tadvat nishaacharasameerit ham

 

Bhandaistadvat param chaiva graahyajaatham prakeerthithamâ€

 

 

 

The obscene rites prescribed for the queen in  Ashvamedha,

 

Eating of flesh like night-prowling demons in yajnya -

 

These were invented by buffoons, so also the gifts to priests.

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last one :

 

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देहसà¥à¤¯ नाशो

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          there are four elements, earth, water, fire and air;

and from these four elements alone is intelligence produced.

 

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समसà¥à¤ªà¤°à¥à¤¶à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨à¤¿à¤²:

केनेदं चितà¥à¤°à¤¿à¤¤à¤‚

तसà¥à¤®à¤¾à¤¤à¥Â à¤¸à¥à¤µà¤­à¤¾à¤µà¤¾à¤¤à¥à¤¤à¤¦

वà¥à¤¯à¤µà¤¸à¥à¤¥à¤¿à¤¤à¤¿à¤ƒÂ ||

 

 

Fire is hot, water cold,

refreshingly cool is the breeze of morning;

By whom came this variety?

They were born of their own nature.

   

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दà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡à¤­à¥à¤¯à¥‹ मदशाकà¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤µà¤¤

अहमॠसà¥à¤¥à¥‚लः कृशोसà¥à¤®à¥€à¤¤à¤¿

सामानाधिकरनà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¤ƒÂ Â ||

 

           from the four elements alone is intelligence produced —

just like the intoxicating power from fermentation.

since in " I am fat " , " I am lean " , these attributes abide in the same subject,

and since fatness, & c, reside only in the body, it alone is the soul and no

other.

 

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तà¥à¤°à¤¿à¤¦à¤‚दम भसà¥à¤®à¤—à¥à¤‚थनम 

बà¥à¤¦à¥à¤§à¤¿à¤ªà¥Œà¤°à¥à¤·à¤¹à¥€à¤¨à¤¾à¤¨à¤¾à¤® जीविकेती

बृहसà¥à¤ªà¤¤à¤¿à¤ƒ ||

          The Agnihotra, the three Vedas, the ascetic's three staves,

and smearing oneself with ashes —

 

 

Brihaspati says, these are but means of livelihood for those who have no

manliness nor sense.

 

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, rohri mani <rohri_mani wrote:

 

 

rohri mani <rohri_mani

charvaka/lokayata

 

Thursday, November 26, 2009, 9:41 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please discuss about charvaka/lokayata philosophy.

Regards

Sanjeev

 

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