Guest guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 In ancient times, people believed that the earth is flat. They feared traveling beyond a certain distances. They accepted this as a reality because that belief has been around for good long time. Religions and holy scriptures taught them the same belief also. The universal truth, the earth is round, was unknown to them because they feared to think against accepted belief and god. When somebody questioned this belief, they punished him because he was questioning the accepted belief. We need to develop a habit of questioning the god and beliefs instead of fearing the questioning of god so that the true reality of god can be emerged. Today everybody accept the fact that the earthy is round even though some scriptures still says that the earth is flat. We all need water, and there is water, etc. This fact can be validated. However, we all need God; therefore there is God; can't be validated. Water is reality, god is a belief. You can't conduct a validation of reality Vs belief. " God I trust you that is why I am questioning you because I need to validate my trust in you " . This kind of thinking will lead us to the reality. RegardsSanjeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 First of all, one need not fear God. The three behavioral aspects of Fear, Jealousy, and Possessiveness must be shattered away from one's self so that True UnConditional Love Prevails. What lead one to the discovery that earth is round, while the entire world believed it to be flat? It is not the disbelief or questioning to validate the belief of world is flat. But certain observations and also reflecting back on the other objects in solar system such as Sun, Moon, and other planets and celestial bodies. These observations made the individual think that earth must also be round. This is a positive approach. Similarly to 'Realize' God, one must not doubt or question the existance of God (which will be a negative approach), but approach it with true belief, then the 'Realization' of Truth will dawn. As you said, God is a belief and not a physical object. Similar to using diamond to cut diamond OR going along with the flow to save the person being dragged by flooding river (if you swim against the current in a flooding river you will fail), one must use belief to solve issues with belief. I am not sure which scripture in India depicts the earth as flat. It would be useful if you can provide some references. However, there are certain superstitions, myths and unwanted rules, regulations and conditions that are found from ancient practices which must be questioned and challenged and changed. Like not allowing devotees to enter the sanctum sanctorum (karuvarai) of the temple, not allowing women to perform certain religious rites, discriminating people based on their caste alignment, treating women during their mensural periods as dirt (it is after all a nature's process of cleansing women's body), precluding the women from offering prayers during mensural periods, treating widows as inauspicious, etc must go away. If God is everywhere and in everybeing, how can all these human made (mostly man-made) rules and conditions come into play. Be bold enough to challenge and remove them. Exercise your courage and revolutionary character is questioning and alleviating these stupidity being imposed on people.  At Mother's Lotus Feet, Shakti Thondan ________________________________ rohri mani <rohri_mani In ancient times, people believed that the earth is flat. They feared traveling beyond a certain distances. They accepted this as a reality because that belief has been around for good long time. Religions and holy scriptures taught them the same belief also. The universal truth, the earth is round, was unknown to them because they feared to think against accepted belief and god. When somebody questioned this belief, they punished him because he was questioning the accepted belief.  We need to develop a habit of questioning the god and beliefs instead of fearing the questioning of god so that the true reality of god can be emerged. Today everybody accept the fact that the earthy is round even though some scriptures still says that the earth is flat.  We all need water, and there is water, etc. This fact can be validated. However, we all need God; therefore there is God; can't be validated. Water is reality, god is a belief. You can't conduct a validation of reality Vs belief. " God I trust you that is why I am questioning you because I need to validate my trust in you " . This kind of thinking will lead us to the reality. RegardsSanjeev  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 The seeker after the truth is not one who studies the writings of the ancients and, following his natural disposition, puts his trust in them, but rather the one who suspects his faith in them and questions what he gathers from them, the one who submits to argument and demonstration, and not to the sayings of a human being whose nature is fraught with all kinds of imperfection and deficiency. Thus the duty of the man, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and, applying his mind to the core and margins of its content, attack it from every side. He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency. I have not stated that any indian scripture depicted the earth as flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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