Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 shriadishakti , Rajendran Rajagopal <r_raj02> wrote: > > Dear Mukesh, > I know of a Sahaja Yogini who was in the same predicament as you are for 2 years but she did not give up and continued to practice Sahaj until one day she could feel the vibrations.Sometime our anxiety to feel it could itself be an obstruction to its flow.Please be patient with yourself and love yourself. Vibrations are the flow of Love so I am sorry that is all I know.I will pray and put a bandhan for all negativities preventing you from feeling the vibrations to go.That is the best I can do.The rest is left to the Divine. > Jai Shree Mataji! > Raj > Dear Mukesh, Raj is right - do not be so anxious and try to remain desireless. i also do not know the exact reason of why you are suffering from this problem. But that does not in any way mean you are being punished or have negativity or whatever. i checked the SY who still does not have vibrations after 8 years and found nothing wrong with his chakras. i know for a fact that he is one of the greatest SYs and amply blessed by Shri Mataji for his faith in Her ............... but he does not feel the vibrations. i really do not know why because despite his unswerving devotion and dedication to Shri Mataji he still does not get vibrations. i told him to go to Vashi as a last resort.* Mukesh, you have to forgive us SYs for trying to give remedies for symptoms we have never experienced, but we want you continue on your path to moksha. You have taken a most fortunate birth and recognized Shri Mataji as the Adi Shakti. You are one of the extremely blessed few who worship the Great Adi Shakti, while the rest of humanity remains intoxicated and deluded by the maya of Kali Yuga. Future generations will talk and praise about the most blessed of beings who witnessed and meditated when the Great Adi Shakti was on Earth. It is just like the times when Shri Krishna, Jesus, Buddha or Prophet Muhammad was on Earth, and their followers joined forces with them. Sometimes we do not see the forest for the trees. So look at the big picture. i still want you to go for the thoughtless state. The bliss of this state if far, far, far more intense than all vibrations combined. Shri Mataji has stressed that we need to achieve the Nirvikalpa state. So what happens to a SY who attains nirvikalpa samadhi: " Actions performed by him after his experience of the nirvikalpa samadhi do not cling to him, because he is free from desire and ego. Whether he is in samadhi or conscious of the outer world, his illumination is steady and bliss constant. Though he may sometimes seem to others to be like an unillumined person in respect to hunger, thirst, or sleep, yet he himself is never oblivious of his real nature of Immortal Consciousness. Free from desires, worries, and fears, he is not identified with the body though he still possesses one. Though appearing to be active, he is free from the ideas of " I " and " mine. " He never forgets that the Spirit within is always at peace, though the gunas may engage his body in various works. He does not dwell on the enjoyments of the past, takes no thought of the future, and is indifferent about the present. Completely free from the illusory notion of the physical individuality, he is aware of his identity with all beings. He is conscious that he feels through all hearts, walks with all feet, eats through all mouths, and thinks with all minds. He regards the pain and pleasure of others as his own pain and pleasure. Physical death and birth has no meaning for him, a change of body being a change to him like a change of garments or like going from one room to another. About such a person it can truly be said that he exist, because he has become one with Existence; knows, because he has become one with Knowledge; and enjoys bliss, because he has become one with Bliss Absolute. He does not have to come back to the world of darkness again; for he has entered into the world of Light. If compassion for mankind moves him to assume again a body, he is born as a free soul always conscious of his divine nature. " Swami Nikhilananda, Self-Knowledge ** (Swami Nikhilananda, Self-Knowledge [Atmabodha], Ramakrishna- Vivekananda Center, 1989, p. 110-11.) So Mukesh you should strive for the thoughtless state of Nirvikalpa. Don't let lack of vibrations discourage or hinder you. We are all on this path together and your lack of vibrations may be insignificant compared to the serious problems some SYs face in order to keep the faith. May Shri Ganesha help you to overcome this obstacle. Jai Shri Mataji, jagbir * About Vashi (and not Varsi as i mistakenly posted) - what does the " cbd " of " cbd belapur " mean? Just curious. And can we get more details about cost, accommodation, treatments etc., perhaps from someone who has been there? ** i normally quote from sources that provide accurate and descriptive information. There have been SYs critical of this and have condemned the www.adishakti.org website for quoting non-Sahaja Yogis. i find these SYs very narrow-minded and fanatical. If i were a disciple of Swami Nikhilananda and was unfortunate to meet a fanatical SY critical of him the chances of me joining Sahaja Yoga would be slim. There was one incident where a country co-ordinator wanted to look at the book i was holding. i have a number of books for my own reading pleasure and research. When i showed the cover of one which read " BKS Iyengar's: Light on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali " she immediately reacted, withdrew her hands and moved backwards. She bluntly told me that he was a " false guru " and she cannot even touch the book, lest she starts catching. (The rest of the collective also never touched the book.) The point i would like to make is that Iyengar is explaining about Patanjali, not claiming that he is Bhagwan. If we followed blindly and rigidly to the books recommended by Shri Mataji we are not far removed from the Catholic Church's " Index of Forbidden Books " . Shri Mataji has recommended that we particularly read Her list of books and NOT stop reading all other books. SYs have the discretion and common sense not to read any of Sai Baba's or Father Moon's books and there is no need for a list of forbidden books. .......... or senior SYs admonishing us. But when some SYs strictly follow Shri Mataji's recommended books, to the exclusion of all others, we are setting practices harmful to Sahaja Yoga. And when such SYs are co-coordinators or leaders it produces paranoid SYs with similar beliefs. This reinforces the 'us versus them' mentality and even faithful devotees of the Adi Shakti are suspect. How many seekers would want to join Sahaja Yoga if their gurus are regarded as false just because they were non-Sahaja Yogis? That leads to my final question: Which guru or religion of SYs was true before the advent of the Adi Shakti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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