Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Dear Sirs Mukesh and Jagbir, Jai Shri Mataji.My Name is Gaurav Tyagi.I have always wanted to do something so that sahaja yoga reaches out to the masses. " adishakti.org " is a great resource of facts on sahaja yoga and should be availabe to the masses in a common language ie. hindi I would like that my grandmother(not a SY)understand what sahaja yoga has to offer instead of listening to satsangs of some false gurus (i think they are false as she has just got lost in shabdajalam).She just dosent want to sit with open hands in front of mataji because her guru says you should not sit with open hands in front of anybody.I want the " n " number of people like her to discover the truth and end their seeking.Thus i understand the need to have a hindi medium and appreciate your move.I would like to assist mr mukesh in the translation.I know this requires a lot of commitment and i am ready for that.As For the devnagri typing we dont really need to type all that manually.We Have Two options ::: 1: We use a Hindi Dictation Software That Uses Speech To Text (STT) engine.We just speak in hindi into the microphone and the words get printed on the screen.I have a friend in Madras IIT who or i think his friends are doing a similar thing with Sanskrit.This system takes a while to adjust to a personal voice.We have to say things again and again for the computer to recognise the words.But this is only at the initial stage afterwards things are quite smooth.I think a software called " HindiVani " is already available or yet to be availabe soon.Please see this website http://www.elitexindia.com/cddivision.asp The iit website is http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/ 2: The second Option is that we use a scanner(A simple word scanner .It is as small as a tv remote).We just write the text on a paper and use OCR (optical character recognition) and get the text on the screen. I live in Khar Ghar which is very near to CBD Belapur where I think mr mukesh is residing thus i think i will be able to help him anytime without any problem.Thus If you need my help i will be happy to assist you. Jai Shri Mataji Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 shriadishakti , " Screamer2000_98 <screamer2000_98> " <screamer2000_98> wrote: > Dear Sirs Mukesh and Jagbir, > Jai Shri Mataji.My Name is Gaurav Tyagi.I have always wanted > to do something so that sahaja yoga reaches out to the masses. " adishakti.org " is a great resource of facts on sahaja yoga and should be availabe to the masses in a common language ie. hindi > I would like that my grandmother(not a SY)understand what sahaja yoga has to offer instead of listening to satsangs of some false gurus > (i think they are false as she has just got lost in shabdajalam).She just dosent want to sit with open hands in front of > mataji because her guru says you should not sit with open hands in > front of anybody.I want the " n " number of people like her to >discover the truth and end their seeking.Thus i understand the need > to have a hindi medium and appreciate your move.I would like to > > assist mr mukesh in the translation.I know this requires a lot of > commitment and i am ready for that. Dear Gaurav, Jai Shri Mataji! Thank you for volunteering for this huge task. Just liaise with Mukesh and work it out. i would be very grateful if both of you, while doing the translation, improve the English version in whatever way possible. Since Mukesh has already also volunteered for both English and Hindi, any type of improvement will be welcome. As regards your grandmother i think you should let her be. It is very difficult to break decades of conditioning, especially religious indoctrination since it tends to be such a sensitive issue ......... even among the best of friends. You will waste more time and energy to convince 60-year-olds to do Sahaja Yoga. In the first place our parents know next to nothing about chakras, kundalini and sahasrara. The subtle system is so briefly mentioned in the scriptures that it suffers from acute ignorance. Secondly they have only known the major deities like Shri Krishna, Siva or Rama all their lives. Introducing the Adi Shakti to be over and above all not only astounds but also challenges their core beliefs - no one is more powerful than their favorite god. And that She is in human human form further distresses them into disbelief. Thirdly false gurus know how to condition their devotees. Probably your grandmother must have told her guru about Shri Mataji and now dogmatically clings to the answer that was most pleasant to her: " Don't open your hands in front of any person. " At that age reasoning hardly makes sense. My mother purchased a prayer that was stacked in the Sikh priest's cupboard. All he had to do was open it, retrieve and hand it over to my mum ........... for a fee, of course. She took the invisible prayer and offered it to God! For years she still believed that priests had the power to pre- pray prayers ..................... and spent years fattening them with parathas, yogurt, ghee and milk. So Gaurav put your attention and efforts towards projects that will produce maximum benefits for Sahaja Yoga. The key to announcing the Adi Shakti and spreading Sahaja Yoga is by providing knowledge, especially to the still unconditioned younger generation. In today's world knowledge is power and wealth. Without knowledge SYs can neither convince anyone, nor challenge falsehood. warmest regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Dear Jagbir And Mukesh Jai Shri Mataji. Please Forgive me for writing so late.I am right now at the health centre at c.b.d..I have come here for my vishuddi treatment.I thank you from the bottom of my heart for allowing me to do this duty.Mr mukesh i will be contacting you as soon as i leave the centre.I think by monday .Also Jagbir thank you for giving me advice on my grandmother I think mataji will take care of her.Mr Mukesh I reccomend you to come at the cbd centre and stay here for at least a week.You will yourself see the results.Accomodations are ok.They charge Rs300 for Dormitory and Rs800 for a Personal Room.These Are the charges for per day basis.You can contact Dr Madhu Rai fr admitting yourself.She Is the director.Hope to see you there soon.. Gaurav Tyagi..... shriadishakti , Mukesh Pandit <mukeshpandit2002in> wrote: > Jai shri mata ki, Jagbir! > > Jagbir, please have patience. I have not contacted you > for 2 or 3 days, but that doesn not mean that I am > not working on translation in Hindi. You have changed > your home page which I noticed when I recently opened > it. Jagbir, there are certain problems in translating > your website in Hindi and these problems arise because > I find some words too abstract or generalized to be > translated in Hindi. Besides, when translated > literally i. e. word to word basis, the translated > version does not read good. In English it reads nice > but in 'translated' Hindi it does not. Therefor I > seek your permission to modify the Hindi version so > that it should read like natural Hindi and beautiful. > > Forgive me for undue delay. > > Be in touch! > > Mukesh. > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Dear Mukesh and Gaurav, Namaste! It is obvious that literal translation of English into Hindi will mar the splendor and effectiveness of the latter to bloom to its full glory. Not only should you have authority to modify but also the freedom to tend and trim as you see fit. You also do not have to ask my permission anymore and i trust that both of you will work in the best interest of Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji. Last but not the least, there is also no need to work under any dateline or show progress. Be free to work at your own pace because you must put your own commitments first. You should work in your spare time and we will not expect any quick results ............. the task is huge and slow progress will be expected. So brother Mukesh and Gaurav, take your time. Jai Shri Mataji, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 shriadishakti , Mukesh Pandit <mukeshpandit2002in> wrote: > Jai mataji, Jagbir, Gaurav and all sahaja yogis ! > > I had been to the Sahaja yoag interanational health > center, this monday 3, I had been suggested not to > work on computer for a long period and not to > concentrate too much on computer as it catches right > agnya and Vishuddhi chakras. They told me to enchant > Hanumaan chalisa I don't know why. They also > suggested me to put packs of ice on the liver and on > the right agnya. They also recommended to get admitted > there, though it was optional. > > They treated me for approximately half an hour or so, > and expected that I must have felt vibrations. I lied > them by telling that I felt vibrations very slightly > because I did not want to hurt their enthusiast. > " The Kundalini is like a rope with many threads. She rises by unfolding her coils piercing every chakra. The width of the Kundalini or the number of threads start diminishing as She ascends if the higher charkas are not open or if the piercing points in the charkas are constricted. If the lower charkas are open the Kundalini rises as a whole, but if the higher charkas are not open then the constriction does allow few threads to pass. So it is very necessary to have at least the lower charkas cleansed. In the western mind the higher charkas are better but as their Moladhara chakra is in jeopardy, the force is very weak and their own sensitivity very poor. When the kindalini rises without any hurdles, it reaches the Agnya and spreads on the lower brain plate like a cloud, so a heaviness or sleepy feeling crawls. I say that first the mother puts you to sleep. The second feeling is when the vital force of Kundalini melts down over the Ida and Pingala. As if the cloud of the vital force starts pouring bliss. Gradually the head feels as if the lead is being taken off. One feels relaxed. Now again these two channels carry it down up to nabhi and now a new force from Kundalini joins it.? Then the triple force rises which opens the agnya. At this time eyes get closed. The pupils start dilating. Now the head gets clearer but some feel a mild pressure or throbbing at sahasrara. The agnya crossing creates the thoughtless awareness. You feel the silence of sahasrara. At sahasrara the Kundalini accumulates. A kind of release starts as the Brahmarandra (fontanel bone) opens. It works slowly with some, but with most of them it is with a gush. At that moment, the sadhaka (disciple) feels the cool breeze of the vibrations. This is " realization " . There are many who have got jagruti (awakening) and have got the curing power but they cannot remain in thoughtless awareness. They touch it for a minute or so. But the process of Kundalini oozing out works out with time and ultimately they reach a stage of doubtless awareness. With some like X it was a quick permanent ascent, he felt as if two bath of ice fell on his hands and started melting. The cooling crawled into his being. If the Vishuddhi is doubtful or stretched and constricted, then, one does not feel the vibrations despite realization, meaning the piercing of the Brahmarandra.. The collective consciousness is felt even before the Kundalini pierces the Brahmarandra fully. You start feeling the burning on the fingers and also the discriminating styles of collective consciousness are manifested. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi London, 16 October 1977 (superscript) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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