Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Dear friends , God bless you!I haven't sent an email since...I was ill and busy with the university exams(they are not over yet) .There are some things I would like to say,thought,and now iI have some time to write to the list about them: a)to Mukesh:Dear Mukesh,while I am not a very expererienced Sahaja Yogi(about 4 months),I have something that might help you:I have read that the nerves throught which we feel the cool breeze pass throught the Vishnuddi.So,try to treat your throat chakra and see what happens! b)I would like to know how to exorcise demons as a SY ?c)To Jargbir and all:I cannot do anything but laugh when reading your post that I am an anti SY,that I am not Dionisios Vourtsis etc.It is simply ridiculous:)Your post had lies such as I didn't reply to the one who replied to my first post(I replied and told him hehad made me happy by showing his love for me and asked some more questions).I can prove in many ways I am Dionisios Vourtsis but won't do that as it is just a waste of time.Just ask God and your hands will speak:) Dear Jagbir ,please grow up and stop attackingg others with no reason so rudely(you attack so man except for me personally ,such as the Churches at your site).You do more bad than good because you make the ones intrerested in SY go away because you attack them ,their the beleifes and even offend them.Still,you had no proof I am not Dionisios Vourtsis,Why did you say that? Love,Dionisios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 shriadishakti , " Dionisios Vourtsis " <mprgrandmaster@h...> wrote: > c)To Jargbir and all:I cannot do anything but laugh when reading > your post that I am an anti SY,that I am not Dionisios Vourtsis > etc.It is simply ridiculous:)Your post had lies such as I didn't > reply to the one who replied to my first post(I replied and told > him hehad made me happy by showing his love for me and asked some > more questions).I can prove in many ways I am Dionisios Vourtsis > but won't do that as it is just a waste of time.Just ask God and > your hands will speak:) > Dear Jagbir ,please grow up and stop attackingg others with no > reason so rudely(you attack so man except for me personally ,such > as the Churches at your site).You do more bad than good because > you make the ones intrerested in SY go away because you attack > them ,their the beleifes and even offend them.Still,you had no > proof I am not Dionisios Vourtsis,Why did you say that? Hi Dionisios, Greetings to you! Since you are Dionisios accept my apologies. Maybe i reacted and was overprotective in my bid to prevent any disruption at the early stages of this forum. But i just could not help noticing the chasm between your claim to be a brilliant university student and the apparent average grammar. Dionisios, i am not trying to belittle but surely you can better your English? However it is your family's need for a millions of euro that was not believable, which is quoted below: " As I cannot access easily any SY teachers and get some materials on SY,can someone send me some materials and teachings?I have only the basic exercise and some basic clearing techiques.Plus I am very intested in the Shi Mataji's books.However,I am very poor and face strong financial problem(my family needs to pay millions of euros). " If you don't mind can you just elaborate a bit on this devastating multi-million euro disaster and the university background. i really don't know how very poor you are, but surely if you come from an extremely wealthy background and have the means to study in a university, there must be some meager resources to buy another book or two. Hope you are not offended by my questioning your integrity. (All this will really help me understand these unusual circumstances.) You said that i posted lies. Dionisios, that is pretty strong language. Maybe you replied to Ishmael which i am not aware of. All i said was that you have not replied, i.e., you did not post at the forum anymore. If you had then this misunderstanding would not arise. About the churches i assume you mean the Catholic church. Right away i can tell you that by winning the post-Jesus power struggle the papacy, by claiming to be Vicars of Christ, unleashed the greatest genocide in human history that makes Hitler far humane. If you had been an Inquisition victim, roasted so tantalizingly slowly over a excruciatingly slow-burning fire that it took three days for death to end this indescribable agony and pain, then you will understand why it is the body of the Antichrist. And if you realize that the final tally of the killing frenzy over the centuries ran into hundreds of millions of innocent victims, your conscience would have recoiled in horror. (We should not insult other religious organizations by even merely suggesting any comparison.) So are Catholics unconsciously insinuating that Lord Jesus is directly responsible for this satanic genocide by virtue of Him empowering the so-called Vicars of Christ? But if they are offended by the Truth then there is nothing i can do about it. It is not their beliefs that i am attacking but delusion and indoctrination and misinformation and falsehood. Dionisios, you have to tell me if there are lies in what i have written. i will welcome anyone to point the defects in www.adishakti.org because our objective in Sahaja Yoga is to find the Truth and declare it, no matter the consequences. My faith in Lord Jesus is profound and unshakable and so is my belief in His Kingdom of God and the Last Judgment. The powerful churches have usurped His teachings and taken away the power of salvation from a billion followers. The Last Judgment seeks the disempowerment and dismemberment of churches by revealing to all believers the deepest secrets of self-salvation. That is the task now undertaken by the Comforter promised by Lord Jesus in the name of the Father. Her name is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, a Christian by birth. Christians are deserting the churches like bats out of hell. They are doing so because a growing number are attacking the very foundations of the Church and exposing the rotting core. (Do you really know how many pedophile priests and gay fathers fornicate within church grounds, right under the gaze of the Savior?) i am also one of the many. Maybe i am forceful and rude but that is the way i respond to falsehood. After what i found out follwoing Shri Jesus' and the Comforter Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's reaction to the word " Pope " in the Sahasrara, i had to take off my gloves. Never have so many been deceived by Satan and the Vicars of Christs, the body of the Antichrist. regards to all, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 shriadishakti , " Dionisios Vourtsis " <mprgrandmaster@h...> wrote: > Here is another question:Should I talk about the miracles I > experience and the Gifts I am given?I am afraid that some might > think I am doing it to show off,that I say lies .....I want to > tell you those experieces so that all may Glorify God at seeing > His Glory being expressed through me but am not sure I should for > the above reasons plus : " the right hand shouldn't know what the > left is doing " . > I ,also, need to discuss with Shri Mataji about a very > important...Is that possible?She is the only one who can verify > something I have been told(don't ask what is it). Hi Barry Dionisios, You are getting stranger with every post and have given me no reason to discount the agnya catch that Lyndal talked about, or the suspicion that you still are whom you claim not to be.(You don't have to return the apologies.) Now you are talking about 6,000 euros which you never mentioned earlier. Then there is your stupid family who had the rare gift of blowing up a few million euros. And your English has hardly improved. Now you desire to play God and " want to tell you those expereinces so that all may Glorify God at seeing His Glory being expressed through me. " Barry, you are sick. The only saving grace is your desire to exorcise the demons that are tormenting you. Barry Clay, better get demon Dionisios treated fast before more multiple personalities breed. And please don't write to this forum anymore or appear under another demonic disguise. You must have heard of the Demonbusters? Hope you heal and evolve, jagbir *And Barry Clay, you should know that i don't use vibrations to check. i just accept all that comes my way, the good, the bad and the ugly. ............. and you are none of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Dear Dionisios Vourtsis, I would like to add my own regarding you identity problem here. It would be great if it works out! I can say for myself I noticed your titles and they do greatly differ from how a Sahaja Yogi would normally present themselves. Second, there was a how do I say it a condesending note to your questions. Like you were not really serious. I can see how these may be misinterpretations, and lastly the man who you are being confused with who was a active participant on another forum, has completely disappeared from said forum, out of the blue, coincidently upon our first exchange of notes... So it is not all without some reasons, even if they turn out to be incorrect. Like Aunty Lyndal pointed out the vibrations were not good, I got a big pain in my neck after writing you. So anybody can make mistakes. If you are a Dionisios, many welcomes and please forgive myself and all of us. We are sincere and heartfelt people and nobody deserves to be played...enough said. To all others asking questions, Aunty Lyndal gives the best answers, the practical and common cures for what ailes you. Right out of the book so to speak...Thank you Dear Aunty. One comment about your church. It is only now you are experiencing the vibrations confirming your faith. While your teachings from the church may be based on truth, and deeply meaningful, they alone did not and cannot bring you to the point of Self-Realization. Or it would have happened already. This is the point that All religions are dead so to speak. The doors of Heaven have been closed tightly for along time. So there are many spiritual teachings based on universal truth, but the point again is their devotees are not achieving the promise of any of the teachings. Be it Taoism, Buddhism, or Christianity. The reason is Grace is absent from them. The Grace of the Master, the Living one, who bestows the blessing of Heaven. So it is not just your church, it is all of them lacking in Pure Knowledge of how to obtain the Grace for the devotee. They are equally ignorant. All there is words they have to give... The ultimate for any individual is to experience the true Baptism, that is a returning home to the Heavenly realms for a visit to our Celestial Parents in the Unconscious. Shri Kundalini will ultimately lead one there, it is a process. But an individual in this world is free to believe whatever they wish...no one has the right to tell you what to believe. Beyond belief is Knowledge, Pure Knowledge, where belief is not even neccesary, and hardly exists. Then one Knows for oneself what is and what isnt. Love to you, Ishmael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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