Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 shriadishakti , vonda turner <vst333> wrote: > > I apologize. I could not find (in this Tablet) any specific > quotation concerning Bahaullah being the Comforter. However, He > does proclaim that He is the Spirit of Truth. > Hi Vonda, i have read your post and will quote a Bahai source: " The peoples of the world, of whatever race or religion, derive their inspiration from one Heavenly Source and are the subjects of one God. " -Baha'u'llah-What Is the Baha'i Faith? The Baha'i Faith is the newest of the world religions. Its five million members come from virtually every nationality, religious background, ethnic group and social class. Baha'is have found in their Faith a basis of unity and are creating a global community founded on the teachings of Baha'u'llah. A Baha'i is a follower of Baha'u'llah, whose title means " the Glory of God " . What Do Baha'is Believe? * The Oneness of God * The Oneness of Humanity * The common foundation of all religions * The elimination of predjudice of all kinds * The equality of men and women * The essential harmony of science and religion * Universal peace upheld by a world government * Universal education * A spiritual approach to economic problems * Independent investigation of truth * The progressive revelation of spiritual truth through divine teachers including Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed, the Bab and Baha'u'llah " The Bahais represent in a nutshell the ideals and vision of Shri Mataji. i do not think there is any spiritual or religious organization that calls for the Divine Unity of all religions. Shri Mataji has spoken against false gurus like the pope, Muktananda, Sai Baba etc. i have not heard anything negative about the Bab, Baha'u'llah and other teachers like Kalil Gibran etc. It is no problem for me to believe that Baha'u'llah is the Spirit of Truth, and so are others like Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed, Guru Nanak, Sai Baba of Shirdi, and Kalil Gibran. Vonda, after 10 years you still cannot find any reference to the Comforter, but you do believe he is. That is why you were surprised that both Baha'u'llah and Shri Mataji's claim to be the Comforter. But Baha'u'llah never claimed that he was the Comforter. Bahais have put words into his mouth and i find this deception unpleasant. Such dubious methods to brainwash followers is one of the reasons there is so much conflict between religious regimes and their faithful. They have been indoctrinated by falsehood and cling tenaciously on to these bogus beliefs. It is very difficult to reason with such zealots. Shri Mataji has declared that She is the Comforter and i have provided hundreds of web pages as evidence to prove that not only is She the Comforter but also the Ruh of Allah, the Holy Spirit, Maitreya, Aykaa Mayee and Adi Shakti. You must know that all these claims are backed by irrefutable proof, scriptural references and prophesies. That is why until today no one has challenged www.adishakti.org and www.al-qiyamah.org .............. even though the most important pages, comprising the remaining 30% of the web pages have yet to be inserted. Once these pages are completed and uploaded there will be absolutely no way any religious regime or organization can refute what is written or declared. Her universal message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection applies to all, barring none. You may be a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Jew, Sikh or Buddhist but She is the Divine Feminine of all these traditions - Holy Spirit of the Christians, Adi Shakti of the Hindus, Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the promised Messiah of the Jews, the Aykaa Mayee of the Sikhs and the Maitreya of the Buddhists. No one can wriggle out and pretend that the Call for Resurrection and Last Judgment does not apply to them. And to all Bahais i ask this question: Have any one of you ever felt the Breeze of God that Baha'u'llah revealed? " O concourse of archbishops! He Who is the Lord of all men hath appeared. In the plain of guidance He calleth mankind, whilst ye are numbered with the dead! Great is the blessedness of him who is stirred by the Breeze of God, and hath arisen from amongst the dead in this perspicuous Name. " " O concourse of priests! Leave the bells, and come forth, then, from your churches. It behoveth you, in this day, to proclaim aloud the Most Great Name among the nations. Prefer ye to be silent, whilst every stone and every tree shouteth aloud: `The Lord is come in His great glory!' ...He that summoneth men in My name is, verily, of Me, and he will show forth that which is beyond the power of all that are on earth... Let the Breeze of God awaken you. Verily, it hath wafted over the world. Well is it with him that hath discovered the fragrance thereof and been accounted among the well-assured.... " i can say that no Bahai have ever felt this Cool Breeze of God. But this Breeze of God issuing forth from the hands and feet is the very first proof that you are born of the Spirit as promised by the Qur'an. www.al-qiyamah.org/al-qiyamah/winds_of_qiyamah_(fatir).htm www.al-qiyamah.org/al-qiyamah/your_hands_will_speak_(fussilat).htm www.al-qiyamah.org/subtle_system.htm All Bahais are guaranteed that sooner or later they will fell the Breeze of God that Baha'u'llah speaks about as soon as they receive the Baptism of Allah at: www.al-qiyamah.org/self-realization.htm (However, there may be instances that will require the physical presence of a Sahaja Yogi, a collective public program or even Shri Mataji Herself to trigger this Baptism of Allah.) Actually i can go on and on but this should suffice for the moment. The Bahais should check out if what Shri Mataji declares is the Truth or not. i quote a favorite Bahai belief: " God gave humanity the soul and intelligence to recognize Him, and from time to time dispatched messengers in order to give humanity path to progression. " Shri Mataji is exactly that messenger who has been sent by God Almighty to declare the Last Judgment of the Bible and the Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah) of the Quran. But She is far more than a mere messenger. She is the Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit or Ruh of Allah who will make you experience the Breeze of God purifying you in heart, mind and soul. Hundreds and thousands of believers surrendered to the Last Judgment and Resurrection testify to this Breeze of God flowing through them every minute on a 24/7 basis. In this century Shri Mataji's Message to humanity will be the basis of Divine Unity that all Bahais are striving so hard to attain - the unity among all His believers surrendered to the Call of Resurrection. Let the Breeze of God awaken you. LAA UQSIM BI-YAWM AL-QIYAMAH; WA-LAA UQSIM BI-AN-NAFSAL-LAWWAAMAH i do call to witness the Resurrection Day; And i do call to witness the self-reproaching Spirit. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 shriadishakti , jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > > But Vonda please do not be afraid of anything. If the Truth is too > much to bear, or that you doubt Shri Mataji is the Comforter just > take your time. You must be free to make your decision. i have > provided enough evidence that She is the Comforter, evidence that is irrefutable. No one can deny this Truth. One day it will spread yo all nations and people of many tongues will glorify Her. > warnest regards, > Dear Vonda, i have just received an email from another Bahai like you. She is calling for world unity to end the ills of this world. i just briefly explained to her that only the Last Judgment and Resurrection will unite humans. i would like to point out that she has no fear whatsoever. Maybe her email may help you feel better: " I have just stumbled upon your web site and I really found it enlightening. It called to my attention that what goes on in one part of the globe affects another part, sooner or later. I think that unity is the key element needed in order for the cancer that humanity is inflicted with to be cured. Like a human body, the cells (individuals) of mankind must work together in a unified manner or else cancer or other illesses may result. I am propelled to share with you an excerpt from the book " Century of Light " written by the Universal House of Justice (situated in Isreal), the governing body of the Baha'i Faith (Founded by the most recent Persian Messenger of God Baha'u'llah only a little over 150 years ago) about unity, and how we could achieve this remedy to humanity's ills. It gives me hope in a world that is seemingly " passing away " . It helps me oppose a thought of war with a stronger thought of peace. It helps me strive to be the change I want to see in this fleeting matrix of the material world. " For Unity to exist among human beings-at even the simplest level-two fundamental conditions must pertain. Those involved must first of all be in some agreement about the nature of reality as it affects their relationships with one another and with the phenomenal world. They must, secondly, give assent to some recognized and authoritative means by which decisions will be taken that affect their association with one another and that determine their collective goals. Unity is not, that is, merely a condition resulting from a sense of mutual goodwill and common purpose, however profound and sincerely held such sentiments may be, any more than an organism is a product of some fortuitous and amorphous association of various elements. Unity is a phenomenon of creative power, whose existence becomes apparent through the effects that collective action produces and whose absence is betrayed by the impotence of such efforts. However handicapped it often has been by ignorance and perversity, this force has been the primary influence driving the advancement of civilization, generating legal codes, social and political institutions, artistic works, technological achievements without end, moral breakthroughs, material prosperity, and long periods of public peace whose afterglow lived in the memories of subsequent generations as imagined " golden ages " . I found your web site so filled with truth that I just felt I had to share with you at least a drop of the ocean of knowledge latent within the Word of God for this age. Life is too short to worry about mortal charms that will eventually pass away. It is love and unity that we take with us, the energy that is the primary cause of the advancement of civilization. Thank you so much for sharing your insights and allowing me to share some of mine. " So Vonda just relax and don't be hard on yourself. It took me a long time to comprehend the whole Divine Mystery which is like many pieces of a huge puzzle. The pieces fall very, very slowly as you meditate. Over time, when sufficient pieces are in place, you will get a better picture. After nearly 10 years the Divine Mystery has still large gaps of unfinished parts. All you will get after a few weeks of reading www.adishakti.org is just a fleeting glimpse of that Divine Mystery. The same goes for understanding the Comforter who you may be inclined to think has to be a male. What if the Comforter is an androgynous being? How can be judge with out limited mental faculties about how God works His Plan for humanity? What is the Truth? How can we recognize Truth? " And here it will be fitting to introduce the sages' defination of the term truth. It has been earlier demonstrated that without such a defination men wander in a dry wilderness of hollow fancies, unfounded opinions, worthless theories and hypostatized words. This defination may sound quite simple, but it implications are most profound. It should be graven deeply on the heart. Here it is: TRUTH is that which is beyond all contradiction and free from all doubt; which is indeed beyond the very possibility of both contradiction and doubt; beyond the changes and alternations of time and vicissitude; forever one and the same, unalterable and unaltering; universal and therefore independent of all human ideation. " i have realized that Truth is not followed by 100% of religious regimes and other organizations. Falsehood is the basis of our fears, even when confronted with Truth. But Truth is " that which is beyond all contradiction and free from all doubt; which is indeed beyond the very possibility of both contradiction and doubt; beyond the changes and alternations of time and vicissitude; forever one and the same, unalterable and unaltering; universal and therefore independent of all human ideation. " Realize this Vonda and your fears will vanish. warmest regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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