Getting thrown out of Sahaja Yoga

[Guest guest]

Why do people get thrown out of Sahaja Yoga? and how would the

person know if they have been thrown out or not? IS being thrown out

of Sahaja Yoga the same thing as dropping out of Sahaja Yoga?

 

Thank you!

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " Princess <moonangelsy> "

<moonangelsy> wrote:

> Why do people get thrown out of Sahaja Yoga? and how would the

> person know if they have been thrown out or not? IS being thrown

out

> of Sahaja Yoga the same thing as dropping out of Sahaja Yoga?

>

> Thank you!

 

Hi Princess,

 

You should know that extremely few people are asked to leave Sahaja

Yoga, less than .0001%. Shri Mataji only request the person to

leave for his/her own sake and the safety of the collective.

 

1. Sometimes there are mentally unbalanced newcomers who want to

harm or kill others. There was one famous chap Simon Montford Dicon

who was asked to leave in 1990 as he believed himself to be the

Avenging Angel about to mete justice on behalf of God Almighty. You

may check him out at: www.adishakti.org/simon_d_montford.htm

 

2. Many year ago there was one Warren who was asked to leave because

of sexual misconduct.

 

Being asked to leave Sahaja Yoga is different from dropping out, the

later exercising the freedom of free will. Sahaja Yoga is like a

revolving door. You may come in and leave whenever you want. If

after years you decide to visit you are most welcome.

 

But i have to admit that being asked to leave sometimes results in

very bitter feelings. They say there is no fury like an

'incarnation' scorned. There has been so far only one such scorned

false or admitprophet - Simon Montford Dicon. He has been bitter

ever since, and even till today he still nurses a badly bruised ego

that cannot let go of the past.

 

warmest regards,

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Hi jagbir,

 

Yeah, I have heard of Simon. He is a frightening guy, talked to him

before. For some reason I landed in an Anti - Sahaj Website. He

tried to convince me that Shri Mataji was a false guru. But anyway,

can people like him take possession of weak and vulnerable people.

 

Thanks for your reply

 

Princess

[Guest guest]

> shriadishakti , " Princess

<moonangelsy> "

> <moonangelsy> wrote:

> > Why do people get thrown out of Sahaja Yoga? and how would the

> > person know if they have been thrown out or not? IS being thrown

> > out of Sahaja Yoga the same thing as dropping out of Sahaja Yoga?

> >

> > Thank you!

>

 

Hi Princess,

 

i will give you another scenario about being told to leave Sahaja

Yoga by Shri Mataji or by leaders of the collective in extreme cases.

 

In the first case one must have done serious harm or become a threat

to the well being of the whole to be personally told by Shri Mataji

to leave. This is the only alternative after all other means of

compromise or appeasement have failed.

 

The second is a temporary measure for things to cool down and allow

both parties to introspect and heal in the absence of the other.

 

All types of people come to seek help from Shri Mataji. Some of them

are quite mentally disturbed and the first few weeks in Sahaja Yoga

are the most difficult for the collective.

 

i have personally witnessed two newcomers to the collective who

began to exhibit signs of spirit possession and grand delusion.

 

When i first began recording the spiritual experiences of my

children into the computer in 1996, the negativity in Montreal

increased dramatically. It was as if Evil had got wind of it and had

to do something drastic to prevent it.

 

There was so much negativity that coconuts with swastikas began to

crack on a daily basis. i increased the numbers offered to Shri

Ganesha and eventually reached seven which burst open within 24

hours. My family could hear the coconuts bursting open, with large

cracks exposing the soft white kernel and water oozing out. All the

whole family shook our heads in disbelief because we had never seen

coconuts that way before, even till today. (i still regret till

today for not taking photographs of this spectacular coconut crack-

up.)

 

It took us nearly three weeks to fight that massive dose of

negativity which left the walls darkened. It was a scene out of " The

Exorcist " . The janitor was at a loss to explain how that was

possible for she had never seen anything like that in her life, and

none of the other apartments were affected. i could not tell her

what was taking place on Earth.

 

During that time newcomers coming for weekly collective meditation

began to claim that they were also achieving a supreme `state of

consciousness.' Next, they were able to 'talk' with Shri Mataji

and 'hear' Her walking around the house at night, looking for food.

(When there was none She would wake them up and ask for snacks.)

 

Not long afterwards Shri Mataji became more intimate with them,

helping to do things that made it clear that they were Her

favorites — shopping together, advising, spying, conferring super

powers, flying them to India, visiting deceased parents in heaven,

helping in immigration matters, inflicting accidents on nasty ex-

spouses, pinpointing the location of the Holy Grail off South

America, preparing for Armageddon, granting vast powers of mass

destruction . . . and the list goes on. They claimed that Shri

Mataji had bestowed them with superior powers, and i had to listen

and record their experiences as well.

 

One of them had just undergone the trauma of a failed business,

financial losses, self-abuse and a divorce (and sought refuge in

meditation.) Within days he believed himself to be `Shri

Kalki', endowed with 'supreme powers' that would unleash

worldwide destruction with his laser eyes, and begin Armageddon. He

told that he had already meditated and 'talked' with Shri Mataji

about cleansing the world. He then prepared a statement addressed to

all Sahaja Yogis in North America. In it he declared he was `Shri

Kalki' and gave a list of commands for the Sahaja Yogis to

follow.

 

He told me to fax copies of this letter to all centers. Being the

incarnation of Shri Kalki, he would lead the Armageddon as Lord

Jesus was about to appear over New York city any time. According to

him the Bible had predicted that only 144,000 were to remain alive.

He admitted it was a heartless task but he had to perform his duty!

 

i remained in thoughtless awareness and refused to follow Kalki's

command. A lot had happened since Self-Realization and i was going

through a spiritual crash-course. Maybe i had to learn something

from this devilish drama and sought refuge in the thoughtless state.

 

However, this stranger began to get even stranger. The 'voices' in

his head began to make him do crazy things — get down on all four

limbs and bark like a dog, buy hundreds of Lotto 6/49 tickets, hand

money to passersby, instantly analyze character, probe intentions,

read minds, and other peculiarities. Nearly every human being he met

was having a satanic stench, and he was having an extremely hard

time keeping the little sanity he had. Evil was everywhere and he

had nowhere to run!

 

A few days later he came with about a dozen assorted secondhand

books that the 'voices' had told were for me. He was taken to the

basement and told to calm down. That only further agitated him.

Suddenly he saw a protrusion in the ceiling, vaguely resembling a

boat's hull, and exclaimed, " This is the ship with the Holy Grail. "

 

That was the end of my witness state. i told him to stop

hallucinating, and bluntly told him that all his visions were

figments of his imagination. 'Shri Kalki' got very hurt, started

crying and stomped away, muttering that no one believed him. He

never came back again.

 

Instead he went into deeper into his own nightmarish world. Just

before going to India he was plotting to kill a priest because

'voices' within were pestering him to do so.

 

He hung around the Saint Joseph's Oratory in Montreal, the largest

shrine in the world dedicated to St. Joseph, to familiarize himself

with the area, the movement of priests, and the escape route. A

number of times he was on the verge of committing this heinous act,

but for some reason was unable to carry out the order of

the 'voices.' (Finally he left Montreal of Toronto.)

 

Had he been able to kill the priest the blame would have been

clearly on me, my family, Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.

The world media would have had a feeding frenzy and Shri Adi Shakti:

the Kingdom of God never seen the light of day. But the Adi Shakti

made sure that this evil scheme of a mad and possesed newcomer will

never materialize.

 

The SYogini who claimed to have gone shopping with Shri Mataji, left

Sahaja Yoga on her own after being forced to move to Vancouver as

her husband left her.

 

The fake Kalki regained his senses after a few months of serious

cleansing and recovered. There was no reason to ask him to leave as

he admitted his mistakes and wanted to be healed. If he had not then

he would have been told to leave the collective. (i think it is a

very sensible thing to do to avoid further disturbances or bodily

harm.)

 

Nevertheless he did much damage by claiming that i was responsible

for this hallucinations as SYs worked on him. To that extend Evil

did succeed, but if that was all then i am glad that it was just a

glancing wound. But i know Evil is insidious, cunning and relentless

and that wound might be deeper than i imagine.

 

So Princess there are evil spirits in this world that try to take

you away from Shri Mataji. There are also demons who have incarnated

from previous births to continue the battle for the forces of Evil

against God's declaration of the Last Judgment. It is the Final

battle between God and Evil, one that has been prophesied in the

scriptures, and you are witnessing it. The only protection is the

Sahasarara within, not without. The Sahasrara is like the calm in

the eye of the storm, the Divine Sanctuary upheld by all the Holy

Scriptures. Other than your own Sahasrara there is no other place of

refuge, one that the Qur'an warns. So protect yourself from within.

 

warmest regards,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

note: Dear Lyndal, i really enjoyed both your posts, something that

i look forward to. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir you wrote;

" When i first began recording the spiritual experiences of my

> children into the computer in 1996, the negativity in Montreal

> increased dramatically. It was as if Evil had got wind of it and

had

> to do something drastic to prevent it.

>

> There was so much negativity that coconuts with swastikas began to

> crack on a daily basis. i increased the numbers offered to Shri

> Ganesha and eventually reached seven which burst open within 24

> hours. My family could hear the coconuts bursting open, with large

> cracks exposing the soft white kernel and water oozing out. All

the

> whole family shook our heads in disbelief because we had never

seen

> coconuts that way before, even till today. (i still regret till

> today for not taking photographs of this spectacular coconut crack-

> up.)

>

> It took us nearly three weeks to fight that massive dose of

> negativity which left the walls darkened. It was a scene out

of " The

> Exorcist " . The janitor was at a loss to explain how that was

> possible for she had never seen anything like that in her life,

and

> none of the other apartments were affected. i could not tell her

> what was taking place on Earth. "

 

That was a truly hair-raising story!

I just wanted to mention that apart from the Swastika, the coconut

itself is really named Sri-phala, or " holy fruit " and a friend told

me about an occasion when Sri mataji was in an upstairs room where

ther was no telephone, and Sir CP had phoned from somewhere else in

the world to speak with Her. So She just asked the person who

brought the message up to Her if they would hand Her the coconut

which was on a table there, and then proceeded to talk with Her

husband using the coconut instead of a telephone.

At a Sahasrara puja once, Sri Mataji spoke at length about how

conscious coconut trees are - how they bend towards the Ocean even

though all other trees bend with the wind, and how the fruit are

constructed like a human head.

I used to keep one in my car although it could not sit in a kumbha

but it made the car's interior much better.

We have found that it pays to check the condition of coconuts

regularly even when they are not exploding because sometimes they

dry up if there are right-side problems or develop mould if there

are (less dramatic) left-side problems.

Thanks for reminding us about their helpfulness.

 

from Lyndal.