Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Dear All SY's, I enjoy reading your posts, and know this forum will continue unabated. I only ask that when a individual is obviously suffering, the first thing we all do is give them a Bandan. Send them some Love. I have always felt this when done for me, and i know it is very powerful way to help others. Perhaps more than any words.... I have written much, and deleted it all... If asked what I did to come to the place i exist in today, I would laugh very heartily and respond, " nothing " , I have done nothing. But that is not entirely true. I learned to watch, myself and others, and most importantly, watch Mother. That is, the Kundalini. The years i was in self imposed exile because of my illness, i always watched and paid attention with detachment to my kundalini. We had a dialog for almost 10 years, " how to convince people they need self realization " . This was probably the only thing i thought about when i was not working or otherwise involved. I have long time ago abandoned this dialog. I guess my Love grew for this force, this silent place inside of myself. I had stopped chasing it, and started to accept it as it was, for what it was, just living with it. I had little choice really as next time i took ill might be the last time. I had come very close before, to not recovering. And with Love grows Trust. They are hand in hand, one cannot love without it. So i grew to trust the Goddess, she led me everywhere, i only followed. Even when i thought it was me, it was only maya. But i always asked Her what to do, mostly anyway. One time after a few years on " the road " i was sitting in my brothers living room, and did not know what to do with my life next. I was meditating and asked Mother, what next? I had my answer in an inspiration and it worked out for the next 5 years. But the point is, my sister in-law was upstairs folding laundry, and as she looked up at the same moment i was receiving, she saw a column of twinkling lights descending through the ceiling and into the floor. I was directly beneath. She came running down the stairs, what was that she said? i just smiled and said oh, I was just talking to God. So this was how it was, not like the yogi warned me, if I was out of the collective, i would Loose everything. I was of course afraid what they said to be true, but found out differently. I wanted/needed this connection and have never been without it. I very early gave up trying to discern others vibrations, as i saw this was a maya, they are for us to use on ourselves, and in Love giving to others. I found any other use was more like looking into a mirror. I did once perform experiments with yogis in Romania, who confirmed what i thought about this. It was a blind experiment, conducted by a Romanian sociologist SY. They took my vibrations through a photo being told nothing. The report was very disturbing, as i suffered from catches according to them, i should not be alive...im laughing a little, it wasn't that bad, but they had me catching everywhere... Well i sent another photo, one i sent to you Jagbir, and my friend in Romania reported to me he had an experience of pranama, to say Pure Love. As that was my intention, to try and show this illusion. Of course I did not do anything, I asked Mother to do, i only followed Her directions. The whole thing was Her doing really. So i feel i am rambling on and on, i dont know about what, oh, being a master. There is the attachment to this note. The photo of Shri Kali. This is some of my relationship with the goddess today. I have the experience of Shri Shiva's snake dancing on my head, just like that, and rest quietly in her embrace. I am indeed a dead man, having actually died, not metaphorically at all. Our Goddess, was once in history all incarnations. As the goddess psyche, she was referred to as a butterfly, actually in greek the name means both mind, well actually soul/butterfly. She was said to posses a butterfly of metamorphosis. That would metamorphosize the soul. Well this is true even today. The nectar of Kundalini will eventual attract that butterfly, then will the process truly begin. This is all I know today, what everybody is preparing for, in the school of SY. I did not choose, I would have gladly passed on, as i had spent 7 long years preparing for my fate, i knew was coming. Someone asked me once, what is the difference between you and you Guru, Mataji. I said i didnt know, but would ask her. The next morning i awoke and we had just been talking, Mother and i, she said with a smile, and a little laugh, that I was sleeping, was the only difference. I was still meditating deeply those days on the reflection of Gods face i had encountered in Heaven. I was not completely happy about being stuck here on earth, I wanted to go home! So every day in meditation for the next three months i asked Mother, Please wake me up! I want to wake up! Finally one morning i stopped asking this question. I received my answer, the only time i would say i actually heard Mothers voice from outside. She was right in my ear, and she said " YOU MUST LIVE " . So that is what i am doing today, living, for what i am not always sure. I know the Goddess today as my everything, my wife, my companion, my comforter, my lover. She is a part of me like my right arm. There is probably more of Her than what i would call me. She has given to me what they used to call the Garments of Heaven. Is a experience of Her response to me, where all the cells of my being vibrate in pure bliss, i get lost in it, She is so Lovely, so Beautiful, I can not describe, but i spend most every night like that with Her. I try to keep them back, but tears of love and joy well at the thought of Her Love. And how much She Loves everybody! And Father also, is the same Love. So back to mastery, i can only tell of my experience, of Heaven, when you get there, they are all like so happy you made it. But as Blake once said " The Fool no matter how pious or holy, will never be let in " . So let the play of fool be someone else's job. I regard most of humanity in that role. In Love, Ishmael Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 shriadishakti , " Ishmael Abraham <ishmael35a> " <ishmael35a> wrote: > Dear All, > > please forgive this message, i do not intend to make this forum an > outlet for my personal agenda, i have none. Just a nagging pain in > my chest when i think of this fellow. > Dear Ishmael and all forum members, i want to remind all that no names should be used to denigrate leaders/individuals on personal matters. If this is allowed to continue than this forum will turn into a free for all fracas. As i have posted earlier only under extreme circumstances do leaders take the unpleasant decision to ask SYs to leave for the sake of the collective and individual. i am not implying that you wanted to hurt someone, far from it. But Manoj must have good reason and sought Shri Mataji's advise. And if one is asked to leave nothing really happens as long the individual continues to meditate, contrary to what many think. Being asked to leave does not mean the end of Her grace. Under certain conditions it may well turn out to be an ascent acceleration because the cause of conflict and commotion is removed - the disturbed lake of the mind is allow to settle down again. Moreover, since all is Her Play then we should accept the position we are in, whether pleasant or objectionable. After all we regard Her as the Adi Shakti and seek Her protection and guidance at all times. Why complain when we are all alone and far from the collective? i have self-exiled myself from the collective and have ascended much faster than possible in the stifling collective climate of fear, bhoots, catches, taboos and endless rituals. But since i have prostrated at Her Lotus Feet, seeking Her Guidance and Protection at all times, does this mean it was my own act or Her subtle play? Ishmael, you have only undergone but a fraction of what my family had to endure. Yet i do not name anyone and this protocol should be respected. There is no bitterness in my heart or anger in my voice (and the coconuts have responded in tandem). Yes, i do bitch but not gossip or murmur behind backs. i also do not want anyone telling me tomorrow that when Shri Mataji was around you were as meek as a mouse, and now are roaring like a lion. As the Chinese proverb goes, " Before going to battle make sure you dig your own grave. " i have dug six, one for each member of my family. i am doing all this in the hope that the 14 types of SYs that Shri Mataji talks about will decrease to the better half or less. It is the silence and lack of venue to self-expose and examine our faults that has allowed the situation to deteriorate to this level where there is hardly any growth in North America. Any miniscule increase has been from migration of SYs from Europe and India. It is Shri Mataji's declaration that only when American wakes up will Sahaja Yoga spread. But this Land of Krishna is snoring so loudly that it will need a rude awakening ................... without naming names or settling scores which will only perpetuate the problem. Ishmael, please forgive me for causing pain which i hope will cease and heal. i want all the pain of the past to come to an end so that you nurse back to health. With all the experiences you have there should be no bitterness left. Be in Joy and Bliss, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh > Dear Ishmael and all forum members, > > i want to remind all that no names should be used to denigrate > leaders/individuals on personal matters. If this is allowed to > continue than this forum will turn into a free for all fracas. > Dear Brother Jagbir, As i was writing this note i knew it should not be. I could not stop myself. I apologize and will respect the forum here. I do not really thnk i was roaring like a lion, i am just myself, whether in Mothers presence or not. I have never hounded anyone or done anything but accept my situation. I continue to do so. In Love Ishmael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 shriadishakti , " Ishmael Abraham <ishmael35a> " <ishmael35a> wrote: > Dear Brother Jagbir, > > As i was writing this note i knew it should not be. I could not > stop myself. I apologize and will respect the forum here. > I do not really thnk i was roaring like a lion, i am just myself, > whether in Mothers presence or not. I have never hounded anyone or > done anything but accept my situation. I continue to do so. > Dear Ishmael, Thank you for your humility. Brother Ishmael, you are not the type that will roar. i was refering to myself when writing: " i also do not want anyone telling me tomorrow that when Shri Mataji was around you were as meek as a mouse, and now are roaring like a lion. " What i meant is that it is better i speak up today while the Adi Shakti is on Earth, and be reprimanded by Her for doing so because even the meek will roar tomorrow. It is better to be thrown out of Sahaja Yoga for rasing my concerns, then to be accepted for pretending all's fine. That is why i have dug up six graves. Love to you, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Dear Jagbir and SY's, Sitting here working, suddenly I am flooded with beautiful vibrations. I think well something must have happened. Surely enough i am treated to a good laugh at your explaination. You do not need to dig any graves my brother. There is nothing you say really out of line to my sensibilities. We all must respond to the desires in our own hearts. The pain I mentioned in my chest before i am sure is my own attachment to someone else and their judgement. I am actually so very happy and joyful i dont know what to do with myself. So I meditate some more, one of the things i never can get enough of. Again forgive my unconscious and its outburst. I have deleted the note so noone in the future will have to read anything unpleasant like that. Peace, Ishmael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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