Is it time to package Sahaja Yoga differently?

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

The folks at Business 2.0 magazine have discovered greed, lust and

egomania among the swamis and gurus of the stretching and breathing

set. And the magazine has revealed all the sordid details -- well,

some of them, anyway -- in an article aptly titled " Yogis Behaving

Badly. " Yoga, the ancient Hindu practice of exercise and meditation,

is now a multi-hundred-million-dollar business in America, and the

yoga tycoons currently battling over market share are exhibiting the

same sort of spiritual enlightenment and inner peace previously

demonstrated by the likes of, say, John D. Rockefeller or Bill

Gates. " Yoga has become cutthroat, Mafia-like, " says Thom Birch, who

is identified in the article as a disillusioned former yoga

teacher. " Many of these people are the biggest thieves, bullies and

sex addicts -- all of if under this veil of spirituality. "

 

All the cutthroat competition from commercial savvy and power

tripping yoga teachers has greatly confused spiritual shoppers.

Sahaja Yoga does not stand a chance because as far as seekers are

concerned it just another yoga. They cannot differentiate between

the kundalini awakening of Yogi Harbhajan and that of Shri Mataji.

How is the subtle system of Sahaja Yoga better than that of a

hundred other schools? Why is Sahaja Yoga self-realization superior

than the rest. In short, what's the big deal about Sahaja Yoga? i

think that as far as they are concerned it is just another item

on the shelf.

 

So, is it time to package it differently as was originally intended

and cater exclusively for those seeking the Messiah, the Comforter,

the Ruh of Allah or Adi Shakti? Listening to Her late 70s and early

80s talks gives me this impression. Perhaps then some centres like

Bali will not have difficulty just maintaining the numbers.

 

warmest regards,

 

 

jagbir

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

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>

> So, is it time to package it differently as was originally intended

> and cater exclusively for those seeking the Messiah, the Comforter,

> the Ruh of Allah or Adi Shakti?

 

 

 

This is a great idea that would indeed work in most parts of Asia and

Africa. But would it work in the Atheist and sport-oriented Europe?

 

 

 

 

 

JSM

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> shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> >

> > So, is it time to package it differently as was originally

> > intended and cater exclusively for those seeking the Messiah,

> > the Comforter, the Ruh of Allah or Adi Shakti?

>

 

shriadishakti , " Furat " <springingriver>

replied:

>

> This is a great idea that would indeed work in most parts of Asia

> and Africa. But would it work in the Atheist and sport-oriented

> Europe?

>

> JSM

 

 

Dear Furat,

 

Prevention of atheism is better than finding a cure. Most atheists

have these symptoms:

 

" It takes quite an irrational (or intellectually immature) mind to

believe in a supernatural god in the sky who is watching over us.

The evidence for such a being is nil and, in some forms, is quite

impossible due to the restrictions placed upon it by definition.

Moreover, the religious establishment has done a terrible job of

validating its existence and, partially as a result of this fact, I

am somewhat cynical in the respect that I do not believe that anyone

will ever prove the existence of any gods. I follow the philosophy

of skepticism, which states that extraordinary claims require

extraordinary proof and mandates that the burden of proof rests on

those who propose the claim. It is not my responsibility to refute

every demented claim put before me. If you make a proposition, you

must prove it. Unless I am given any valid evidence of any

supernatural beings I must reject them as mere speculation by people

who would rather believe than to think and ultimately to know. I am

an Atheist because I have rejected theism as a rational description

of our existence. I have determined Christianity to be fundamentally

irrational and other religions to offer the same deceptions in

slightly different packages. There is an emphasis here on

Christianity. There are other insane religions out there with their

own specific divisions, just as Christianity has its own maze of

cults; it would be too time-consuming to argue against them all.

Therefore, this rant will stick to the religion I have come across

far more often in my part of the world and the one I am most

familiar with. My fumdamental rejection of religion applies to them

all, not just Christianity. "

 

At the dawn of this new millennium a few SYs have begun to openly

declare that the Adi Shakti is on Earth to announce the Last

Judgment and Resurrection. It is crucial that " extraordinary claims

require extraordinary proof and mandates that the burden of proof

rests on those who propose the claim. "

 

Last night i teased my 13-year-old son Arwinder who had, together

with his elder brother, shaved his head bald on Sunday.

 

i jokingly asked him " How's the Buddha? " He replied with a laugh

that He is alright.

 

Sensing that he was serious i continued as his elder brother always

maintained that a few Divine Beings like Shri Buddha were invisible

and presence in the semi-circle before the Adi Shakti on the Eternal

Throne confirmed only through vibrations.

 

i asked " Have you met the Buddha? " He replied " Yes. "

 

i then pressed on: " Have you seen the Buddha because to Kash He was

invisible? " Again he replied " Yes. "

 

i enquired " How do you know He is the Buddha? " Arwinder's

reply " Because the people there told me. " What he meant was that the

other Divine Beings meditating before the Adi Shakti introduced the

Enlightened One to him.

 

i did not ask Arwinder to describe the Buddha. Neither did i check

with Lalita if Shri Mataji had taken her on a tour of the Universe.

None of them are interested in telling anyone anything unless asked.

After years of meditating with Shri Mataji and the messengers of God

Almighty it is no big deal for them.

 

But these children casually explaining their experiences in the

Sahasrara (the temporary microcosm within) which mirrors the eternal

Kingdom of God where those taking part in the Last Judgment are

destined. Such extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and

mandates that the burden of proof rests on those who propose the

claim. And i have more than sufficient irrefutable evidence to

provide such an exacting demand. The Truth of the Adi Shakti to all

humanity is now beyond reproach and indestructible, whether one is a

believer or atheist. Just witness Her Play.

 

 

 

warmest regards,

 

 

 

jagbir

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

> > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > So, is it time to package it differently as was originally

> > > intended and cater exclusively for those seeking the Messiah,

> > > the Comforter, the Ruh of Allah or Adi Shakti?

> >

>

 

Dear all,

 

i quote Ira G. Zepp Jr., A Muslim Primer:

 

" The Inevitability of the Last Judgment: The Final Weighing of Deeds

 

Except for the theme of monotheism, the Quran speaks more of the

coming Day of Judgment than of any other topic. Confessing the

Shahadah — " There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Prophet

of God " — and believing in the accountability of all humans before

God are the cement which holds Islam together.

 

Muhammad, among other things, came to warn us of a time when truth

would be known, when the thoughts and intentions of the heart would

be revealed. He earnestly proclaimed as inevitable a day when

accounts would be settled and when scales would be balanced.

 

Fazlur Rahman, in an oblique paraphrase of sura 50:22, said that

Judgment Day is the " Hour when every human will be shaken into a

unique and unprecedented self-awareness of his deeds; he will

squarely and starkly face his own doings, not-doings, and mis-doings

and accept the judgment upon them. . . . "

 

Something like a Final Judgment or Day of Reckoning is a naturally

corollary of monotheism. If there is one God who knows all and sets

standards of behavior for the world, there must be a time of

judgment, or the edifice crumbles of its own weight. "

 

Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment and warning " of a time when truth

would be known, when the thoughts and intentions of the heart would

be revealed. " The subtle system and Self-realization of the Adi

Shakti brings forth the daily experiences of a " unique and

unprecedented self-awareness of his deeds. " This kundalini awakening

allows the individual to " squarely and starkly face his own doings,

not-doings, and mis-doings and accept the judgment upon

them. . . . " , where he is uniquely both judge and accused. The

Shahadah is proclamation that SYs should have no trouble accepting.

Prophet Muhammad is one of the 10 Primordial Masters who has

proclaimed that " there is no god but God, and Muhammad is the

Prophet of God. "

 

The Announcement and Message of Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to all humanity is beyond

censure, beyond any doubt, beyond any challenge from any religious

scholar. Such extraordinary claims do require extraordinary proof

and mandates that the burden of proof rests on those who propose the

claim. Proof is the use of facts, quotes, research, experience,

other people's work, witnesses, and so on, to support that position.

 

Announcing to the world that a SY has pulled out a radish which

grotesquely resembles Ganesha is not proof of Shri Mataji's divinity

(although it may fit some SYs imagination of packaging Sahaja Yoga

differently). As far as i am concerned it is evidence of a fearless

stupidity and valiant absurdity that makes the world laugh at us. It

takes fearlessness to uphold such a miracle and valor to declare

such an earth-shaking event. i am truly impressed and proud to be a

devotee of the Adi Shakti. i am also sure that there is going to be

a mad melee of countless seekers begging for self-realization.

 

 

warmest regards,

 

 

 

jagbir

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Announcing to the world that a SY has pulled out a radish which

> grotesquely resembles Ganesha is not proof of Shri Mataji's

> divinity (although it may fit some SYs imagination of packaging

> Sahaja Yoga differently). As far as i am concerned it is evidence

> of a fearless stupidity and valiant absurdity that makes the world

> laugh at us. It takes fearlessness to uphold such a miracle and

> valor to declare such an earth-shaking event. i am truly impressed

> and proud to be a devotee of the Adi Shakti. i am also sure that

> there is going to be a mad melee of countless seekers begging for

> self-realization.

>

 

Dear all,

 

You all have to excuse me for this reprimand. There are so many

religious facts, scriptural quotes, spiritual research, mystical

experiences, renown authors, reliable witnesses etc., available to

support Shri Mataji and Her Message that it baffles me why so little

effort is made to substantiate Her mission. It almost looks like

there is an unconscious conspiracy to suppress Her mission, a sort

of siege mentality that cannot be overcome. i mean what other reason

can there be for so much to be hidden by so few from so many?

 

Take for example the prophecies drawn up by John. Till today i have

yet to see any official SY websites utilize them in any useful

manner to propagate the Advent of Shri Mataji. Do those in charge of

websites simply not find his work beneficial? Does his work

represent a danger to Sahaja Yoga? Are scriptural quotes and

prophecies related to the Adi Shakti just a figment of his

overactive imagination (and mine too)?

 

On the other hand a lowly radish has become a sort of miraculous

manifestation of Paramchaitanya to aid Sahaja Yoga .............. or

something to this effect. Is this an indicator of the direction

Sahaja Yoga will take once Shri Mataji leaves Earth? No, nothing of

this sort will be the source of our faith ............. as long as

there are SYs willing to express disapproval or outright indignation.

 

regards to all,

 

 

 

jagbir