...all responses and final says

[Guest guest]

Aashishshar!

 

There are two types of knowledge – the mental one, on which you're an

expert; and the direct spiritual `jnana'.

 

So in case, you are only interested in the first, you should

definitely read this – as Jagbir's mental capacity is sharper than

all of your fellow ISKCONeers' together – website

http://www.adishakti.org where irrefutable proof is provided.

 

But in case you are indeed interested in the complete fulfilment of

all mental knowledge and all scriptures' promises, including the ones

you quote, I suggest you first very carefully examine Ishmael's post –

as his spiritual authority is definitely at least greater than your

guru's, which could easily be proved. And then ask us to provide you

with the link, where you could have your Self-Realisation online.

Until you have a pure desire you will not feel anything. And until

you do not feel the Cool Breeze of the Paramchaitanya, emanating from

Shri Mataji the Devi incarnate, you have no authority here, i.e. you

will not be able to convince anybody, as nobody in here will believe

argumentation that lacks vibrations.

 

 

Regards,

 

Furat

[Guest guest]

If a person doesn't even want to have his self-realisation, you

cannot prove him anything. But if he's a true seeker, and is

temporarily lost in a some sort of a satanic cult only because of

that and not because he is greedy for power, he will have it.

 

 

 

 

shriadishakti , " doomicle " <Sahajforum@h...>

wrote:

> But as yet you can't really prove the vibrational evidence even

> exists you must prove it mentally to the world.

>

[Guest guest]

There are plenty of thing in sahaja yoga that are agreable to me but

much of it are hindu serimonies, strange mantras, and even clearing

techniques that give people the willies. Many who are true seekers

think that you are crazy. You have to be able to explain it to them

or they run away. Even for the purpose of introspection one must

know what they are doing!

 

shriadishakti , " Furat " <springingriver>

wrote:

> If a person doesn't even want to have his self-realisation, you

> cannot prove him anything. But if he's a true seeker, and is

> temporarily lost in a some sort of a satanic cult only because of

> that and not because he is greedy for power, he will have it.

>

>

>

>

> shriadishakti , " doomicle " <Sahajforum@h...>

> wrote:

> > But as yet you can't really prove the vibrational evidence even

> > exists you must prove it mentally to the world.

> >

[Guest guest]

>There are plenty of thing in sahaja yoga that are agreable to me

>but much of it are hindu serimonies, strange mantras, and even

>clearing techniques that give people the willies. Many who are true

>seekers think that you are crazy. You have to be able to explain it

>to them or they run away. Even for the purpose of introspection one

>must know what they are doing!

 

When Lord Chaitanya descended to the material world, he told us that

before we accept someone as our guru or spiritual master (or as

such) we must enquire into what that person is like, what are his

qualities, enquire from other sources as to this guru/spiritual

masters authenticity and finally check what their scriptures are

teaching you.

 

If someone is claiming something which has very little scriptural

backing, but people follow them (such as modern cults), these are

the wrong paths towards spiritual enlightenment.

 

We should not accept these things blindly, because these are serious

events.

 

Take for example Sai Baba. Very little scriptural backing for his

(second) coming, and he is not what he seems. But, he has managed to

translate and write the meanings of each verse into a huge book so

he has managed to bend the Bhagavad Gita to support his views.

 

We should be careful in these times, as because there has been a

rise in 'Mega Gurus' coming from India in recent times to preach

some sort of spiritual enlightment to the unsuspecting mass of

people.