The Enemy Within

March 28, 2003

It is rather strange that things have quieted down in this forum when

actually more postings should be seen. Is it because we SY like to

avoid controversial issues? After a few years in SY , I realized that

very few people in SY like to speak out and those that do have had

their wings " clipped " . I have seen it personally when they had spoken

on genuine issues which concerned the collective but since they were

not the views of the leader and the so called " inner circle " these

genuine concerns were brushed aside and the person who spoke out was

ignored.

Let me just elaborate on the title of my post.

Kuntal Sood is a SY brother and he posts about adishakti.org based

on a mail he received one and half years ago that it was mentioned

that Shri Mataji has advised not to visit this site, as things

written in it are wrong & is not made by a sahajyogi.

Imagine your very own SY brother calling you a non-sahajayogi when I

personally know people Jagbir has brought into Sahaj and who have

been practicing SY for anywhere from 5-9 years now.

I wonder how a SY can say things in adishakti.org are wrong.I would

definitely like to know which part is wrong and false so that I can

scrutinize it and warn others if found to be true to keep away and

also for the owner of adishakti.org to at least get a chance to

defend what is " wrong " in the eyes of someone who wrote an e-mail one

and a half years ago.

Shri Mataji would never have said it and I have seen enough instances

of people doing as they like and saying Shri Mataji said so.

I wish someone would have the gumption to ask her about her feelings

about the site adishakti.org during a recorded public talk although

Manoj the leader of Canada is witness to Shri Mataji having given the

blessings to the book " Kingdom of God " as per the e-mail attachment

in one of the previous posts.

If we as SY have any allegations about our brother or sister then we

should make sure that allegations are true eg seeing it firsthand,

reliable source and willing to prove the allegations to be true

beyond any doubt.

I would never make an allegation against anyone unless I know the

truth and have prove of it and here we have a SY brother Mr Kuntal

Sood making totally baseless allegations.

Now coming to Devarshi who wrote

1)So, I made clear my disagreement with Jagbir's own exclusiveness in

a view of SY that I don't share. But I must say to the least that

his attitude seems extremely loyal. And why should there be an

absolute need to share other SYs perceptions ? Don't we already

share a Mother?

2) Besides I keep doubting the use of these " open " forums.

3) I think you are always putting wrong intentions to SYs. The one

from Divine SY might just have been worried about newcomers going to

your forum instead of the regular SY meetings, and it's quite

possible that Mother on a specific occasions warned someone about

going to your site. That wouldn't mean that She can be " proud of

you " .

4) I don't want to publicly spread rumours of which I have no proof

on anyone

Here are my feelings acording to the numbered sentences above

1)Yes I agree with the fact that there is no need to share other SY

perceptions and as far as I understand the forum is about the " Last

Judgment and the Resurrection " which mother has mentioned many a time

in her talks when our hands will speak.

2)I had been searching high and low for a pro-SY forum where anyone

can post on any topic and am happy to say that although the topic is

supposed to be the " Last Judgment and the Resurrection " I have been

privileged to share so many other insights into SY from people all

over the world.I would do my level best to keep the forum running as

long as it does not become a vehicle for self glory or personal

vendetta.

Or do you want them to land in some anti-SY forum as princess has

landed and is now defending Lyn Dale on this forum and daring the

moderator to moderate.

3)If newcomers are coming to this forum instead of regular meetings

then we better stop the " Divine Cool Breeze " ,SWAN newsletters etc.

etc. since they may feel that they are reading Shri Mataji's talks

and relevant Sahaj news.Nowadays we can even get some audio talks of

Shri Mataji via the web.What made you think on these lines Devarshi

may I ask?

What is more true?Manoj(Canadian Leader) being a witness with a few

other Yogis where Shri Mataji complimented Jagbir's book " Kingdom of

God " or your wanting to believe it's quite possible that Mother on

a specific occasions warned someone somewhere about going to your

site.Give us some facts Devarshi ...... you are subtlely implying

based on something very filmsy.We definitely like to know both sides

of the story since both you and Jagbir are Sahaja Yogis.

4)Happy to hear that but better still if you do not do it both in

public and private

Now coming to the end of my post and my personal feelings

In India we have a very popular song " Sare Jahan Se Achah Hindustan

Hamara " which means in the whole wide world India is the best country.

After coming into Sahaj I feel " Sare Jahan Se Achah Sahaj Yog Hamara "

and now maybe have to add my own lyrics " Lekin Gaddharon Ne Is Ko

AAge Na barne Diya "

Literally it means in the whole wide world Sahaj Yog is the best(in

my eyes) but the traitors within have not allowed it to move forwards.

Harsh words to use but have to be used so that we are vigilant to the

enemy within rather than keeping our eyes peeled looking out for anti-

SY attack from the few anti-SY.For all we know this very anti-SY

became such due to the activities of the very traitors within SY who

were later thrown out but the damage to the SY who became anti-SY had

been done.

Let me just make a humble request ... anybody in future who wants to

make allegations against a fellow SY to please check your facts and

when found to be true , verify the truth again with a third party SY

who does not know either parties.After that is done and if the

allegations have to be defended the person who made the allegations

should have the decency to back up his allegations and not say

someone somewhere said so and it is possible(because my mind wants to

believe so).

Thanks for reading the whole post and my apologies if I have offended

anyone in any way.

Rorikapuran

October 4, 2005

Excellent! Thanks Chuck.

It seems to me these are the same things Shri Mataji has been saying all along.

"Charles Hennigan, Jr." <chuckhennigan wrote:

Dear All,I also came across this is Bhagavad Gita regarding desires that expounds on what Violet said:Chapter 3 36Arjuna said: Krishna, what drives people to commit sinful acts, even unwillingly, as if by force?The Lord Said:37. It is desire, born of passion and later transformed into wrath, that is the all-devouring sinful enemy of this world.38. As fire is covered by smoke, as a mirror by dust, as an embryo by the womb, so knowledge is covered by desire.39. Thus knowledge is veiled by desire, the eternal enemy of the wise, which is never satisfied and burns like fire.40. It lives in the senses, the mind, and the intelligence, using them to cover knowledge and bewilder the living being.41. Therefore first control your senses, Arjuna, then slay this sinful destroyer of knowledge and

self-realization.42. The senses are elevated, but above them is the mind, and above the mind is the intelligence, yet the self is even higher than the intelligence.43. Knowing yourself to be transcendental to the intelligence, steady the lower self by the higher self and defeat this formidable enemy called desire.The author goes on to say the process of restoring true knowledge begins with understanding the difference between the self and the body, and with meditation upon the Supreme Lord. When the intelligence and mind are thus steadied and restored, we can gradually bring the senses under control. Thus kama can be transmuted back into love and the enemy slain. I think of course this starts with self realization. Then with meditation and thoughtless awareness my thoughts are not on desires at all but union with God.Love, Chuck

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