Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 Dear members, i received an email from a part-time SY which reads: " I still feel vibrations and catches even though I am not fully in SY as in going for collectives, footsoaking, etc. I still meditate and perform aartis in the morning while raising Kundalini and Bandhan though. Why is that? " Please respond because there is more than meets the eye here. This subtle question may open a pandora's box of questions over what and who is a SY. Since we have a number of part-time SYs it will be very interesting what full-time SYs think of it. a double jeopardy, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 shriadishakti , " Alin STEFANIU " <alin_stefaniu@t...> wrote: > > As to your saying that this is a Pandora's box, I tend not to > agree with you. As long as we all know what is our destination, we > are all alike. My first though was to criticise any person that > does not attend programs regularly and does not do the meditation > and all that. But it's not that simple. We all have problems even > though some are more obvious than other. > > The best that we can do is support those " part-time SYs " and show > them what is like to be a " full-time " SY. > Alin, Jai Shri Mataji! One of the contents of the Pandora's box is the question of attending programs regularly. Some SYs tend to 'look down' on people who do not attend programs. i am one of very few SYs who have stopped attending public programs because of the collective's refusal to be upfront and honest about Shri Mataji being the Adi Shakti who delivers the message of the Last Judgment to all. i regard the sending of the Comforter as promised by Jesus Christ to be the heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga, and am very passionate about it. i have immense regard for the Savior because of the unsurpassable bravery and unbelievable forgivness He showed for those who nail Him on the cross. There is no way i can gauge the indescribable pain and barbaric torture He had to endure over three days before death relieved Him. i will do everything in my power to follow His teachings and commands, the least possible to give honor and respect for a towering giant of a Man. Thus i regard His sending of the Comforter with the Good News of the Last Judgment to be unconditionally announced to all humanity without fear. We are not living in those Dark Ages where the Romans would have crucified those who did so, though many were subsequently martyred for their faith in the Savior. There is nothing to be terrified of. All we need is to speak the Truth because that is the least we can do to honor Jesus for all the suffering He endured in the name of Truth. He was alone in a very violent age, and went about fearlessly announcing the Truth that brought inevitable death. Yet in the security and safety of the modern 21st century we SYs refuse to do so in our public programs. Reason: We are afraid of a public backlash or seekers leaving Sahaja Yoga. But let them leave if they do not believe so. The Last Judgment only calls for the believers to announce this Good News. Once a person hears this our job is done. It does not matter if Shri Mataji is believed or not because the very knowledge that it is the Last Judgment ensures its consequences. In the Afterlife none can plead innocence by reason of ignorance. We SYs are bound by dharma to be truthful. i find it extremely difficult to attend public programs where seekers are enticed with stress relief and chakra charts. Not only is this downright deceitful but also those seekers who leave within a week or two, and 99% do, never return again. They can learn far more about stress management and chakras from the comfort of computers and books, and are much satisfied when they pay ................. instead of being suspicious about free courses. Who gives such things for free nowadays and many must be rightly suspicious that there is a catch. The modern public is well aware that cults have the same modus operandi. SYs have never given a reason for this massive, prevalent return of merchandise deficit. We are just selling defective goods that few are interested and many have picked up on impulse because they were free in the first place. Yet we sheepishly continue to hawk the same goods even as our Bikram corner stores prosper and run circles around Sahaja Yoga competition. All we hear is that Simon and company is responsible when i know for a fact that 99.99% do not even know he and his websites exists. Simon is made a scapegoat of all that ills Sahaja Yoga, a healing balm for our collective conscience. SYs have still not taken their heads out of the sand because it is more comforting to not face reality, the reality that something is very wrong in our approach to announce the Truth of the Last Judgment. That is why i refuse to attend any public program and will do so as long as the Truth is not announced. i prefer to be a 'part-time SY' living with a clear conscience than one who attends public programs and tells seekers that the Sahaja Yoga subtle system is the brainchild of a great guru. i go to sleep every night contented that i am doing my very small part to live up to the Savior's great expectations that His sending of the Comforter will be welcome by those who seek the eternal Hereafter ........................ and loudly announced so in joy and happiness. i wake up every morning in peace, contented that i have somehow lived to the least expectations of all my eternal forefathers, mothers, sisters, friends and relatives waiting eagerly in the eternal Kingdom of God. i know they will welcome me back to the defening din of a thousand conches trumpeting my return. All who return in triumph will be accorded the same honor traditionally reserved for ancient spiritual warriors. We have fought many a times for the Adi Shakti and triumphed in all encounters with the Evil Forces. The present battle will be no different. It will end in triumph. The Divine Mother has never ever been defeated in any of Her battles. Nay, not even a single hair of Her has been touched, less even bent. It is a great dishonor to even think that She will be nicked by the combined forces of the Antichrist. Jai Shri Mataji! jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 shriadishakti , " Alin STEFANIU " <alin_stefaniu@t...> wrote: > > This is a very tricky question but with a very simple answer > depending on the definition of " Sahaja Yogi " , and I will not go > into that subject for now. . . . > > The best that we can do is support those " part-time SYs " and show > them what is like to be a " full-time " SY. > Alin, A SY is one who meditates on the Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit or Ruh of Allah) because s(he) believes that it is the Last Judgment and Resurrection. That is the main reason i have become a devotee of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Nearly a decade ago i started questioning the very purpose of life. After a few years of materialistic pursuits and delicious indulgences in Canada the initial euphoria wore off — there was no gold at the end of the rainbow. i had achieved his deepest desire and burning lifelong ambition: to take my family to a safe haven on Earth where we could live in peace, harmony, equality and, of course, wealth. The joy of life in Canada, one of the most blessed nation on Earth, came in ever-diminishing returns. Then it began to dawn that genuine happiness was missing in one of the wealthiest country on Earth. Life began to lose its essence. There was an incomprehensible feeling of emptiness, of nothingness, of uselessness. The realization came that life, even if cherished to the fullest, was futile if it all ended with the parting of loved ones. Existence was useless if it ended and faded into nothingness. It just made no sense. Paramahansa Yogananda, in Undreamed-of Possibilities has this to say: " Our great whirling planet, our human individuality, were not given to us merely that we might exist for a time and then vanish into nothingness, but that we might question what is it all about. To live without understanding the purpose of life is foolish, a waste of time. The mystery of life surrounds us; we were given intelligence in order to solve it. " In early 1993 i knew that i had reached the end of life's journey, and began a journey of self-introspection to search for the meaning of life. " Why was i on Earth? What was i born for? Why is there death? Is it the end of all existence? Why are humans in a constant state of struggle for power and possessions? Why is the vast majority under constant subjugation? Why are billions striving and suffering? Why so much hate, violence and unhappiness in the lands of plenty? Why so many tears, anguish and sufferings in the lands of less? Why all these ceaseless confusions, delusions and illusions? Why all these religions of division, differences and hate? Why all these different Allahs, Gods and Prabhus? What is the Truth? Who knows this Truth? Where is this Truth? How to reach this Truth? After months of fruitless, frustrating searching i surrendered myself and begged the Divine to quench my ever-increasing thirst for Truth. This spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: O Ek suki yaha lakoh mein. O Only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. There are tears in millions and millions of eyes. Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. I have counted and seen every fate for years, Ek hasta hai dush rote hai Only one soul laughs while ten are in tears. Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, Tera khel samaj meh nah aya Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. For weeks the Almighty Creator was asked, amid a profusion of tears, to reveal the Truth. Repeatedly He was implored to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this useless, empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded him and the rest of humanity. What was desired was the Absolute Truth of the Absolute Creator, not the conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that could not explain and account for the other Messengers was not God. Any yahweh that only cared for his kind was not Yahweh. Any allah that had only one messenger was not Allah. Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture was not Prabhu. Any buddha that had no Knowledge of His Kingdom was not Buddha. On the night of September 28, 1993, i was sitting all alone, completely drunk, and somehow listening to the relaxing music of Kitaro. My children were fast asleep and wife still at work. Nothing stirred the silent atmosphere surrounding the soft soothing sounds. i was peace with himself and Earth.Suddenly, out of nowhere, a thunderous voice bellowed, " JOIN SHRI MATAJI. " It was a thunderclap that jerked me out of the serene stupor. i whirled around in disbelieve but there was no one around. The intensity and clarity of this Mighty Call shook every nerve and fiber of my body. Where did this Majestic Voice come from? Who was it that spoke with such Authority? My mind reeled in reverence to this Divine Message that had come like a massive bolt of Cosmic Consciousness. It was the Divine Direction for no power on Earth could have had that force of awakening a half-comatosed drunk. Despite my inebriated state i knew that this Message had to be remembered at all costs. There was a Force in it that jolted my numbed senses to act immediately, lest the sheer strength of intoxication would reel me back into hapless lethargy and deep sleep. My heavily bombed state of mind ruled out any hope of remembrance. The only way was to somehow jot it down on something. i managed to stagger to a table, take out his purse, and write down the message and date on a calling card (the date took a considerable time to confirm.) The exact words written down were: 'Join Mataji 28/9/93.' (1) That is how i became a SY and have remained ever since. i was called upon to join Shri Mataji because of my deepest desire for the Truth of God Almighty. Ever since that fateful day She has provided me more answers to life's deepest questions than all the religious regimes put together. There is no such thing as a part-time or full-time SY. A SY who does not go for public programs is in no way less pure or enlightened than a full-time front-of-the-puja-row devotee. It is all within - the love, humility, compassion and innocence for fellow humans. It is also the dharma and devotion to the Truth. Whether one goes to public programs or not has nothing to do with the quality and depth. There is no such thing as a senior SY being more enlightened, or one who has attended most pujas more pure. Last, but not the least, it is the absolute surrender to the Last Judgment and Resurrection. i consider this to be the most important aspect of being a SY. Once this Truth is accepted the rest of life becomes an individual journey dedicated to purifying the mind and body of all impurities. A full-time SY is one who spends the rest of life taking part in the Last Judgment, that is meditating twice a day .................... whether all alone or with the collective. We will be judged by what we are, not with whom or where we were. It is an individual journey that enjoys life to the fullest, the Kingdom of God within that has now manifested on Earth in all its splendor and glory. jagbir (1.) " He to whom the enjoyment of worldly happiness appears tasteless, he who takes no delight in anything of the world — money, name, creature comforts, sense pleasure — becomes sincerely grief-stricken for the vision of the Mother. And to him alone the Mother comes running, leaving all Her other duties. " Sri Ramakrishna, The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna, Ramakrishna- Vivekananda Center, 1958, p. 367. " This world is afflicted by many accumulated layers of sin and delusion, and most people are not in touch with their original, true selves. God cannot easily be felt or experienced; the truth cannot easily be understood or practiced. Without God and the guidance of truth, the mind is rudderless, drifting aimlessly in a sea of vain desires and false conceptions. In such a condition, even the best efforts at spiritual growth may fail. Yet time and again God reveals himself to those who seek him in faith. " World Scripture, International Religious Foundation, Paragon House Publishing, 1995, p. 535. Those, upon whom He casts His Glance of Grace come to meet the Guru. Shedding the residues of their sinful mistakes . . . This world is asleep in emotional attachment to Maya. Forgetting the Naam, the Name of the Lord, it ultimately comes to ruin. The One who put it to sleep shall also awaken it. Through the Guru's Teachings, understanding dawns. One who drinks in this Nectar shall have his delusions dispelled. By Guru's Grace, the state of liberation is attained. Sri Guru Granth Sahib (Maajh, Third Mehl, p. 111-12.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Coin with many sides. Dear brothers and Sisters, What Jagbir has said is true for him. But like everything that is subject to opinion there are many definitiions as there are yogis. To me a Sahaja Yogi meditates whenever it is possible. Be that twice a day or all day. As it is the Joy of union with God that I hope motivates one to meditate at all. It is of course a process of discovery, that can take one second or many lives. It depends on how much You stand in the way. To me there is nothing outwards that distinguishes a Sahaja Yogi. It is Completely internal. It has nothing to do with Puja's, or number of times in a day someone does something. That is called ritual. Has nothing to do with following some ones rules, I have always held that if there is one set of foot prints on the path before you, your on the wrong path. As we each have our own trail to blaze to Heaven. Collective conditionings can only take you so far, whatever organization they come from. Eventually everyone must find the thing beyond even organization, and collective. But the Collective of Sahaja Yoga does serve the purpose of Heaven to the point that the door to the Unconscious has to be pried open to allow the Divine plan of evolution to work out. There is much more I could say on this point but this is not graduate course here. There is one thing though that can be seen from the outside, and it is perhaps the most important thing a Sahaja Yogi can do. A real Sahaja Yogi has discovered in themselves true Compassion for other human beings. And to show that Love, they give Self-Realization to others. Not by any rules perhaps, what to say, how to say, is not even neccesary to present anything other than the door to freedom. All Sahaja Yogis have this power, and it is for using our powers we are created as yogis. So some get caught up in ego play, ok, some caught in conditions, ok, but they are not living up to the reason they were given realization in the first place. This is not the life to take your yoga home and hide there. In more than a subtle way i am thrashing some wheat here. But this is my opinion only. Just because someone does not become a SY from attending a meeting, is not truely the point in the absolute, to giving realization. The Kundalini can and will continue to act. It is not givin to all to be SY's but it is given to most to evolve. This is the biggest help any one person can give or recieve from another human being. So to withhold it from people for any reason is to me anti anti anti Love. Take a look for one second at the tradition of the Guru in Southern Asia. What was the point of the Guru having a disciple? Plainly, to make another Guru. Not to make a slave, or condition someone. But to set them free so they can also do the same for someone else. This is what is ultimately to come of Sahaja Yoga I hope, that the trappings of ceremony and fear, and ego, and ritual drop away, and people everywhere come to know like some of the Native Indians of America once knew, how the Goddess talked to the other creatures of the world, simply, innocently, and in harmony. Otherwise I will never be able to take anybody home with me, as Mother and Father continue to insist, no animals allowed in Heaven. Peace, Ishmael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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