Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 I was very confused to read the article about the anti-Christ which posits that the Catholic Church is the farthest from the message of Jesus of any established religion. Having been raised Catholic and having experience as well Protestantism, Hinduism, Buddhism ansd Sikhism, I find this assertion hard to swallow. In the past I think that this assesment would be appropriategiven many factors including the Inquisition, Conquest of America and even silence about the Holocaust. But today with the exception of the Quakers and Universalists, the Catholic Church is the most ecumenical and liberal of the Christian sects. It is I think exteremely problematic to label any religion in such stark and uncompromising terms. Each religion has had its unfortunate share of abuses and atrocities. There are fundamentalist and conservative factions of every religion which persecute non- believers and those they see as apostate. Furthermore Protestantism's general obviation of rituals such as the observance of the Sacrament of Communion in the sacred terms of Transubstantiation, their disavowel of Mary and ceremonial observance of manta-like prayer seems to place it farther away from Universal truths. Much of Catholic tradition can be tied to religion of the Middle East and even India accounting for its strong feminine element. Also, in many religions there is the practice of celibacy, which I think should be respected as a means to self-control and spiritual progress, but not an absolute requirement. I am disturbed by this article because it has such a similar tone to much of the Catholic-bashing done by fundamentalist sects in America. Can someone please explain this to me. Chris Barry-Arredondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 shriadishakti , " moonistea " <moonistea> wrote: > > I was very confused to read the article about the anti-Christ > which posits that the Catholic Church is the farthest from the > message of Jesus of any established religion. Having been raised > Catholic and having experience as well Protestantism, Hinduism, > Buddhism ansd Sikhism, I find this assertion hard to swallow. > > I am disturbed by this article because it has such a similar tone > to much of the Catholic-bashing done by fundamentalist sects in > America. > Can someone please explain this to me. > Chris Barry-Arredondo > Chris and All, " The Identity of the Apostasy When we look through the pages of history we find that no religious system fits this description except the Roman Catholic Church with its leader, the Pope. Consider the following evidence: 1. The Church rose out of the Roman Empire in 320 AD when the Roman Emperor Constantine became converted to Catholicism and with him, the majority of the Roman world. 2. The Church gained support and rose to be a great world power for 1260 years with its Pope ruling like an emperor, during the years 606-1866 AD. [1] 3. The leaders of the Church (the Popes) have taken their seat in what they call the " temple of God " (actually St. Peter's in Rome), and proclaimed themselves to be God on earth. The very title " Pope " comes from the Latin word " papa " which means " father " [2], and Jesus warned us to " call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. " (Matthew 23:9). Thus the Popes and priests have taken upon themselves a title which only God deserves. 4. The Popes have not only blasphemed God by allowing themselves to be called " Pope " , but have also allowed and encouraged such titles as " our Lord God the Pope " [3], " the Holy Father " [4], and the " Vicar of Christ " [5] to be used of themselves. The Roman Catholic Priests are also blasphemers of God in that the very name which they like to be called (''Father'') is specifically forbidden by Jesus Christ to be used of any man on earth because God is our Father (Matthew 23:9). Furthermore, according to a decree from the Council of Trent, priests are to be " called not only angels, but also God " [6], which blasphemes the God of heaven all the more! 5. The Church has believed and taught for centuries the incarnation of Christ, and that the Son of God had a pre-existence as a spirit. These two doctrines of the Church separate Christ from his body of flesh and their end result is that the Son of God did not come " in the flesh. " 6. For centuries the Church persecuted, tormented and even killed thousands of the people who would not join. There were times when it tortured and slaughtered anyone found reading the Bible. When men began translating the Bible into the common language of the people, the Church called them heretics and sought to burn or drown them. The pages of history are full of examples of men and women who were persecuted, tortured and even killed by the Church as it made " war on the saints and conquered them. " [7] 7. The Church and its leaders remain to be overthrown by Jesus when he returns. Since Jesus has not returned yet, we cannot look to history for the fulfillment of this event. But we know from the Word of God that the false religious system must be destroyed so that Jesus can replace it with his own system and establish the Kingdom of God. For a more detailed account of how closely the Roman Catholic Church fits the characteristics in Scripture of the great apostate Church, the reader is encouraged to look into some of the many books available on the history of the papal Church.[8] " One day in 1995 i asked my son Kash to see if it agreeable with Shri Mataji and Shri Jesus to seek the help of the pope in spreading the message of the Kingdom of God within all humans. At that time i was blissed-out and awed by the torrent of revelations that he was telling me daily as he traveled freely and effortlessly between the macrocosm (Earth) and microcosm (Sahasrara or Kingdom of God). i thought i was doing the right thing to ask both the Adi Shakti and Her Son Jesus since i had no prior knowledge of Catholicism and the background of the papacy. Kash agreed to my suggestion. He meditated and the energy of the Holy Spirit, residing at the roots of the Tree of Life within him traveled all the way up and blossomed into the Thousand Petalled Lotus. He emerged through the clouds and slowly floated into his ethereal body that was meditating beside the Great Primordial Mother. He stood up and, after exchanging greetings with the Supreme Mater Sanctissima, told Her that he wanted to see Shri Jesus. She agreed and both traveled through the universe to His place. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi slowed down as they approached His abode. A short distance away Kash could see that Shri Jesus was in deep meditation, His massive spiritual body poised magnificently on the soft cloud cover. It was a sight to behold, a Divine Being powerful beyond all human imagination, sitting in utter peace and egoless humility. The entire atmosphere was super charged with Spiritual Energy, Silence and Bliss. They were in Heaven. When they came nearer, Shri Jesus came out of meditation and got up to receive them. He was dressed in a one-piece light gray dress that extended to His ankles, like a robe. There was another piece of cloth, also light gray, that was draped across His right shoulder down to the left waist. After exchanging greetings all of them sat down. Kash then asked the Spirit of the Living God again if he could ask Shri Jesus some questions. The Great Holy Spirit smiled and told him to go ahead. Kash first posed this question to Shri Christ, " Lord Jesus, who is your Father? " Shri Jesus immediately replied, " The Spirit is My Father. " Kash then asked Shri Jesus if it would be all right to convince the pope of these Revelations. For the first and only time Kash saw both the Great Adi Shakti and Shri Jesus taken aback for some reason. Both visibly reacted the very instant the word pope was mentioned, as if it was a name that should not be uttered in the Sacred Sanctuary of His Kingdom. They actually moved backwards as the force of the name hit them like a potent curse. It was as if the word had defiled the immaculate purity and pristine holiness of the Kingdom of God. The word pope was to both Lord Jesus and the Great Adi Shakti the very essence of Evil itself, an entity that reeked of centuries-old vice, lust, wickedness, sin, immorality, blasphemy, torture, and death. Kash waited for an answer but there was only silence. He wondered what had gone wrong and felt uncomfortable. These Divine Hosts had always displayed impeccable manners and utter humility to any guest, but Shri Jesus was not answering his innocent question. Kash had immense respect for this massive Son of Man, and His silence was painful. The Great Sacred Mother then smiled and said that this question cannot be answered, without giving any reason. She then told him that they should meditate. After they had finished Kash told Shri Jesus that he would be leaving, bowed to Him, and got up. Shri Jesus bowed back in return. Shri Mataji then levitated Kash again and they traveled back to the Land of Perpetual Light. He then bowed to Her, requested Her permission for leave, and started descending through the clouds to this ritualistic world of baptizing bishops and bullshitting brahmins. He opened his physical eyes and found himself on Earth. He then explained to me what had transpired to me, his face slightly distorted and stressed by the spontaneous reaction, initial silence and subsequent refusal of the Adi Shakti and Shri Jesus to answer his simple question. There was an immediate feeling of intense guilt that something had gone terribly wrong. What could the Pope have possibly done something so blasphemous and corrupt that even the mere mention of his title made the Great Celestial Mother and Shri Jesus react in aversion? After all, about a billion Catholics all over the world regarded him as Christ's representative on Earth, and they all could not be wrong. Moreover, my family had begun to celebrate Christmas partly due to their belief that the Pope was the representative of the followers of Jesus Christ. There was a lingering sense of loss, confusion, and hurt as no logical answers could be found in the conditioned mind. This hurt was why did the Holy Mother and Shri Jesus refuse to even talk about the Pope, a man that was believed and respected by him. i had very little knowledge on the background of Christianity and had accepted the Universal Savior due more to His supreme sacrifice on the Cross than anything else. Why should the Heavenly Hosts keep silent on the man who led the largest religious institution in the world? It was then i began to search for answers. After weeks of confusion and apprehension i began a search on the background of popes. It was an academic revelation beyond all expectations! For the very first time in my life the harsh Truth about Christianity was known and it shocked me into utter disbelieve! i never expected a billion Catholics to be so foolish and dumb as to believe what i was reading: original sin, papal infallibility, confessions, sale of indulgences, papal corruption, division of churches, conflicting dogmas, evil in women, Inquisition, celibacy and others. My mind reeled and screamed in silence! How could so many humans believe in such latent falsehoods of the Catholic Church, despite all the historical facts of the last two millenniums? What power had duped so many intelligent people for so long? What power had spiritually maimed so many bodies and destroyed so many souls? What power had the strength to maintain its stranglehold despite committing the greatest and most barbaric acts against humankind? What power had such chameleon-like camouflage and inherent cunning to elude and delude detection? What power made so many to surrender their souls and salvation to a single man, the False Prophet? What was the nature of this power? Who was behind this power? This power is anti-God! This power is anti-Christ! No wonder the Great Ancient Mother and Shri Jesus recoiled at that blasphemous word pope! No wonder they reacted to this unclean word! No wonder they flinched at this vile word! No wonder they cringed at this satanic word! " People do not know what Time has come. It is the last chance. You won't get anymore chance. In Bible it has been described as the Last Judgment. " Shri Nirupama Devi Delhi, India — August 18, 1979 (Nirupama [389th]: Unequalled.) " It's a very serious thing they have done against Christ. And still going on. Still this Catholic Church, though being exposed so much, is still going on — in India also, all over. It's stupid. This Protestant Church also is going on everywhere. What good name have they brought to Christ, one should see. The first and foremost thing He has said that you must enter into the Kingdom of God, that you must be born again. So it's all mental: You are born again. You have a certificate. We are born again. Finished. So this mental attitude of the West is responsible for killing the great Incarnation of Christ, so I think it's another crucifixion. Mentally, you cannot understand spirituality. " Shri Aksamaladi-dhara Devi If someone had told me about the violent and antichrist history of the papacy i would not have subjected Shri Mataji and Shri Jesus to hear the word " Pope " . However, today i realize that it is part and parcel of Her Play. i am just a mere actor who must perform, along with other SYs, to make Her Play a resounding success and worthy of a thousand curtain calls. The Last Judgment is Her final act that will receive a standing ovation from peoples of many tongues and nations who will truly understand what the Savior meant by " The kingdom of God is within you. " Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by Shri Jesus to explain to humanity all that He could not reveal during His short sojourn on Earth. One of Her revelations is that the Catholic Church is against Christ. The Last Judgment destroys all religious regimes by making them powerless to grant salvation. The Catholic Church is but one of the thousands of sects that knows as much about the Kingdom of God within as a American Spotted Ass knows about the Last Judgment. Period! warmest regards, jagbir Footnotes: 1. Robert Fleming, The Rise and Fall of Rome Papal, (London: Houlston & Stoneman. Paternoster Row, 1849), pp. 45-46. (First edition printed in 1701 ) . Grattan Guiness, Light For the Last Days, (London: Morgan & Scott, 1918), pp. 207-208. E.B. Elliott, Horae Apocalypticae, (London: Seeley's, 1851), Vol. IV., pp. 276-280. 2. Webster's Third New International Dictionary, (William Benton, 1971), Vol. II, p. 1765. 3. Canon Law, Extravagans, quoted in F. Walker et all., Watchman! What of the Night?, (Bristol: F. Walker, The Dawn, 1942), p. 51 4. Henry Halley, Bible Handbook, (Chicago, 1956), p. 880. 5. Loraine Boettner, Roman Catholicism, (Philadelphia, The Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company, 1962), p. 127. 6. Ibid., p. 51. 7. The Rise and Fall of Rome Papal, p. 34. Cardinal Lepicier, The Stability and Progress of Dogma, (1910), p. 202. Bible Handbook, p. 898. Charles Gulston, No Greater Heritage, (London: The Paternoster Press, 1960), p. 210. 8. Robert Fleming, The Rise and Fall of Papal Rome. Henry Halley, Bible Handbook. G.H. Pember, Mystery Babylon the Great, (London: 1941). Leopold Ranke, The History of the Popes, (London: 1853). James Begg, The Whole Evidence Against the Claims of the Roman Church, (London; 1855). Joseph Priestly, A History of the Corruptions of Christianity, (London, 1871). John Bain, The Developments of Roman Catholicism, (London). Albert Close. The Divine Programme of the World's History, (London: The Protestant Truth Society, 1916). " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > The Last Judgment is Her final act that will receive a standing > ovation from peoples of many tongues and nations who will truly > understand what the Savior meant by " The kingdom of God is within > you. " Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by Shri Jesus to explain > to humanity all that He could not reveal during His short sojourn > on Earth. > " And Jesus spoke again unto the eleven and said, " Grieve not because I go away for it is best that I should go away. If I do not go away the Comforter will not come to you. These things I speak while with you in the flesh, But when the Holy Breath shall come in power, lo, She will teach you more and more, And bring to you remembrance all the words I have said to you. There are a multitude of things yet to be said; Things that this age cannot receive because it cannot comprehend. But, lo, I say, Before the great day of the Lord shall come, The Holy Breath will make all mysteries known — The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality, The oneness of man with every other man, and with his God. Then will the world be led to truth, and man will be truth. When She has come, the Comforter, She will convince the world of sin, And of truth of what I speak, And of the rightness of the Judgment of the just; And then the prince of carnal life will be cast out. And when the Comforter shall come, I need not intercede for you; For you shall stand approved, and God will know you then as he knows Me. " The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:4-11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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