Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 Well said Doc. For the last week i was tempted to keep quiet about this, but this special Easter time and my dharma to my Agnya forbids any more witnessing of this 'Rudra' farce. 'Rudra' is Simon Montford, which is why he was writing with a hushmail account here. he was planning on giving a glowing report on his own evil and deceitful websites to try to undermine us and put doubts in our mind about Sahaja Yoga. he is also the new character 'Philip Ackerman' on the hate list. Our contacts who knew him well absolutely confirm it, as do the vibrations. (check our contacts evidence about the evil Montford at http://www.geocities.com/simondicon/testimonials.html Please have total faith in your vibrations dear brothers and sisters. Jai Shri Mataji >On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:01:03 -0700 dr_balwinder <dr_balwinder wrote: >shriadishakti , " dr_balwinder " ><dr_balwinder> wrote in POST 531: >> To label Rudra's tremendous effort as a waste of time is not doing >> >> justice to Rudra or anyone else in SY.I would love to do what Rudra >> >> is doing but am embarrassed to say(give an excuse) that I do not >> >have >> the time.A lot of SY are like me(forgive me for saying) when it >> >comes >> to doing something for SY which is time consuming ....... no time >, >> busy at work , what will the leader say and the list of excuses >> >goes >> on. > >I have yet to see any fruit of your efforts to contribute to other >> >people having access to the truth. > >> I only wish that I could contribute to the work people like Furat, > >> Ivan , Rudra , Jagbir and many more behind the " scenes " are doing >> >> other than just giving lip service that I really support and really >> >> admire the stand they have taken. > >Rudra my wish has not changed but some doubts have been created >about >your allegiance to SY and Shree Mataji. Nevertheless it is so easy >to >clear the doubts ……… just like what I did on the antiSY forum when >> >they started imagining that I was Jagbir—I provided them my working >> >place address , my telephone number where I worked and my handphone >> >number.Suddenly they changed and stopped imagining him to be me but >> >then started to imagine Jagbir to be Jedi, Neville(it was amusing >> >seeing an anti-SY having to supply his wedding photos and address >> >before they stopped imagining him to be Jagbir),recently Ivan and >I >do not know who is going to be labeled as Jagbir in disguise in >> >future. > > >> Better to deny the lie, better to enlighten people which was half- >> >> truth, better to prove the truth than just avoiding the issue >> altogether.I believe that there are many many SY(if not all) who >> >want the truth >> to be told always and I also believe that truth never >hurts ........ >> especially in the long run. >> Truth must prevail ALWAYS > >So proof them wrong by providing the name of the collective you >are >from….. work with those who want the truth to be told and rebut >the >lies being spread about Shree Mataji and Sahaja Yoga.If I as a SY >can >provide it to the anti-SY , I do not see why you cannot divulgea >bit >about yourself to your SY brothers. >I have been on the anti-SY forum for too long for me to even think >> >that Jagbir and Ivan will stop until the truth is exposed and anyone >> >who exposes the truth I will support them all the way.They can use >> >sarcasm against what I write(I speak for myself here) but that will >> >not mean I am going to sulk and threaten to leave the forum because >> >I feel I see the bigger picture that _ they are focused on providing >> >a true picture of what the anti-SY are up to_ and also trying to >be >more bold in proclaiming Shree Mataji as AdiShakti. > >You can write off-list to me if you so wish. > >Jai Shree Mataji > >Balwinder > > > Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate & l=427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote: > > 'Rudra' is Simon Montford, which is why he was writing with a > hushmail account here. > > >On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:01:03 -0700 dr_balwinder <dr_balwinder wrote: > > > >Rudra my wish has not changed but some doubts have been created > >about your allegiance to SY and Shree Mataji. Nevertheless it is > >so easy to clear the doubts ……… just like what I did on the > >antiSY forum when they started imagining that I was Jagbir—I > >provided them my working place address , my telephone number > >where I worked and my handphone number. . . . > > > >So proof them wrong by providing the name of the collective you > >are from….. work with those who want the truth to be told and > >rebut the lies being spread about Shree Mataji and Sahaja Yoga.If > >I as a SY can provide it to the anti-SY , I do not see why you > >cannot divulge a bit about yourself to your SY brothers. > > Rudra, You have remained hush despite: 1) my request that you change to a normal ID; 2) Dr. Balwinder's request you give details of your collective; 3) Ivan's challenge that you provide him more facts. Why are you not making available this simple information to clear vibratory confirmation that you are Simon? ............ unless you obviously cannot. You should know that Ivan detected your presence immediately on your first post. His kundalini warned him of your real identity and i was informed. However i wanted to be sure and waited till you betrayed yourself in your eagerness to get back at me, something that you could not resist. You are now banned until proper information is provided that you are not Simon. However i do not expect that you will do so. heads i win, tails you lose, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > Rudra, > > You have remained hush despite: 1) my request that you change to a > normal ID; 2) Dr. Balwinder's request you give details of your > collective; 3) Ivan's challenge that you provide him more facts. > Why are you not making available this simple information to clear > vibratory confirmation that you are Simon? ............ unless > you obviously cannot. > > You should know that Ivan detected your presence immediately on your > first post. His kundalini warned him of your real identity and i was > informed. However i wanted to be sure and waited till you betrayed > yourself in your eagerness to get back at me, something that you > could not resist. > > You are now banned until proper information is provided that you are Balwinder: What does banning mean? If Rudra cannot post here , Simon can deny that he was impersonating as Rudra and say that Rudra never got a chance to deny the charges. There is no need to ban Rudra at this juncture ........ if he is silent for a long period it is obvious he is Simon , if he does not divulge his collective it is obvious he is Simon , if he does not change his to a normal Id it is obvious he is Simon , if he does not want to provide more facts for Ivan it is obvious he is Simon. I cannot see the reason for the hurry to ban him. jai Shree Mataji Balwinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Yes, Jagbir, i agree with Doc here. Let's have it proven to everyone here that our vibrations are telling the truth about Rudra/Montford. We know what he was planning. he was going to give his deceitful websites a glowing report under the pseudonym of this 'Rudra' character. What a sly devil he is. Read the websites about him in the links section everyone, don't ignore the dangers of the anti Adi Shakti forces. Don't underestimate them and presume that you are above them and their destructive influence. Shri Mataji gives us common sense and resolve to tell the truth about these demons, so read it all and be warned. Know the enemy of your Spirit. Ivn On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 01:28:33 -0700 dr_balwinder <dr_balwinder wrote: >shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " ><adishakti_org> wrote: > >> Rudra, >> >> You have remained hush despite: 1) my request that you change >to a >> normal ID; 2) Dr. Balwinder's request you give details of your >> >> collective; 3) Ivan's challenge that you provide him more facts. >> >> Why are you not making available this simple information to clear >> >> vibratory confirmation that you are Simon? ............ unless >> >> you obviously cannot. >> >> You should know that Ivan detected your presence immediately on >> >your >> first post. His kundalini warned him of your real identity and >i >was >> informed. However i wanted to be sure and waited till you betrayed >> >> yourself in your eagerness to get back at me, something that you >> >> could not resist. >> >> You are now banned until proper information is provided that you >> >are > >Balwinder: >What does banning mean? >If Rudra cannot post here , Simon can deny that he was impersonating >> >as Rudra and say that Rudra never got a chance to deny the charges. >There is no need to ban Rudra at this juncture ........ >if he is silent for a long period it is obvious he is Simon , >if he does not divulge his collective it is obvious he is Simon >, >if he does not change his to a normal Id it is obvious he is Simon >, >if he does not want to provide more facts for Ivan it is obvious >he >is Simon. > >I cannot see the reason for the hurry to ban him. > >jai Shree Mataji > >Balwinder > > > Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate & l=427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote: > > Rudra, > > You have remained hush despite: 1) my request that you change to a > normal ID; 2) Dr. Balwinder's request you give details of your > collective; 3) Ivan's challenge that you provide him more facts. > Why are you not making available this simple information to clear > vibratory confirmation that you are Simon? ............ unless > you obviously cannot. > > You should know that Ivan detected your presence immediately on > your first post. His kundalini warned him of your real identity > and i was informed. However i wanted to be sure and waited till > you betrayed yourself in your eagerness to get back at me, > something that you could not resist. > > You are now banned until proper information is provided that you > are not Simon. However i do not expect that you will do so. > Rudra, There has been no response from you to either Balwinder, Ivan or myself. Other SYs have given information to verify their status. Why is that you cannot? unless for obvious reasons. This ban will stay till you do so. Jukka, i have decided to un-ban you. i hope i do not have to resort doing so again. You wrote a beautiful poem, a talent that is appreciated. Please let us enjoy more of this gift. regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 And you can read his latest exposure at: sahaja-yoga-response/message/234 <adishakti_org > >Rudra, > >There has been no response from you to either Balwinder, Ivan or >> >myself. Other SYs have given information to verify their status. >Why >is that you cannot? unless for obvious reasons. This ban will stay >> >till you do so. > >Jukka, i have decided to un-ban you. i hope i do not have to resort >> >doing so again. You wrote a beautiful poem, a talent that is >appreciated. Please let us enjoy more of this gift. > >regards, > > >jagbir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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