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Dear papa Jagbir,

 

The following article may be of interest:

 

Voaden, Rosalynn, and Stephanie Wolff (2000) `Visions of my

youth: representations of the childhood of medieval visionaries'

Gender and History 12(3):665-684

 

There's a pdf of this article available in the sahajhist group

(Files - Medieval Europe)

 

J

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " sahajhist " <sahajhist>

wrote:

> Dear papa Jagbir,

>

> The following article may be of interest:

>

> Voaden, Rosalynn, and Stephanie Wolff (2000) `Visions of my

> youth: representations of the childhood of medieval visionaries'

> Gender and History 12(3):665-684

>

> There's a pdf of this article available in the sahajhist group

> (Files - Medieval Europe)

>

> J

 

 

John,

 

Is it no co-incidence that Simon D. Montford also sent me an email

trying to belittle Shri Mataji's ability to prove that She is the

Adi Shakti in every Sahasrara, just as you are trying to do without

realizing so. Simon must demonize my children because their

witnessing Shri Mataji in their Sahasraras greatly undermines his

claim that She is a fake.

 

According to Abdullah Yusuf Ali in The Holy Qur'an:

 

" Whenever a great or vital Truth is proclaimed or renewed, there are

always shallow minds that are ready to dispute about it! And what

petty and vain arguments they advance! They think they can discredit

or condemn the Truth in this way, or render " of none effect "

Allah's Plan. But they are mistaken. If they seem to succeed for

a time, that is merely their trial. They may try to plan and plot

against Allah's men. But their plots will fail in the long run.

They will themselves be caught in their own snares. "

 

But i cannot say that with a certainty as far as you are concerned

since you unconsciously use more subtle, indirect ways to achieve

the same end. i think you are trying to pass everything about SHRI

ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD as mere visions by comparing them

with the Dark Ages of Europe where superstition, paranoia, fear and

ignorance reigned supreme. Charles Templeton writes about this

infamous era in A Farewell To God:

 

" Many think of the church as a sacred institution and of priests

and the clergy as men wholly dedicated to the service of God and

humankind. This assumption has not always been valid; indeed, it has

seldom been so. In the Middle Ages, in particular, the Christian

church approximated a terrorist organization, being the instigator

and the protagonist in the indestructible horrors of the infamous

Inquisition.

 

In France and, later, in other parts of Europe, beginning in the

fourteenth century and peaking in the sixteenth and seventeenth

centuries, tens of thousands of innocent men and women — even

children — were persecuted, arrested, arrested, imprisoned, tried

in secret, tortured, flayed, hanged, or burnt at the stake in a

protracted obsession with heretics, witches, sorcerers, black magic,

and demon-possession. "

 

i have already explained to Changedev regarding ordinary visions

that can be induced by any Tom, Dick or Harry. Please check this

link:

 

shriadishakti/message/444

 

You should also know that millions of Buddhists are encouraged to

have visions, a practice picked up by New Age gurus and turned into

a mélange of astral traveling, out-of-body experiences and

channeling. Anyone can acquire these abilities through practice and

self-inducement.

 

But meeting the Adi Shakti in the Sahasrara, a feat that has never

ever been achieved before Her Advent, is part and parcel of Her

Divine Drama on Earth. This is only remotely possible after Sahaja

Yoga Self-realization and Kundalini awakening. There is indeed

evidence of a new race of humans, simply called Sahaja Yogis by the

Great Primordial Mother, on Earth:

 

" The Mysterious Birth of a New Species.

 

Unknown Man is the first declaration of a new species being born on

Earth. The last time such an event occurred was thirty-five thousand

years ago when Homo sapiens evolved alongside Neanderthal man.

Evidence, both of a scientific and mystical nature, has been

gathered by the author to give substance to the proposal that the

coming new species will grow out of a seed that has lain dormant

within our genetic pool for millennia. This book provides an

extraordinary blueprint of mankind which reveals that we are richly

endowed with miraculous, yet almost unknown talents and that these

talents, when revealed, will alter our condition to bring the

species into a " natural state " which hitherto has been reserved only

for a choice few.In the past two decades the Western world has begun

a completely new appreciation of mystical, Eastern teaching and with

this fresh view the post-war generation has begun to question the

old traditions and values, with science at last delving into " maps "

of life and mankind that have been around for thousands of years,

ignored in preference to rational thinking.

 

Unknown Man explores these maps alongside the scientific

advancements of today to reveal higher evolutionary functions within

our glandular system, the heart and the brain which, when activated,

can bring an individual into a " natural state, " much like that of

masters such as Buddha, Lao Tzu, Bodhidharma, Raman Maharshi and

Meher Baba — those unique pioneers of the enlightened realm of

life — a realm that holds the key to the entire direction of the

next evolutionary jump to be taken by man.The author blends science

and mysticism, facts and speculation to create a vivid and

unexpected portrait of the coming changelings: their appearance,

their physical, mental and spiritual differences and the way in

which we — the old Homo sapiens need to prepare ground for those

already on our doorstep . . . .

 

The ending of our century has more than its fair share of

predictions and omens. No other century has such a wealth of

apocalyptic prophecies surrounding its closing years. And yet

interwoven through the visions of a cataclysmic end to our dark

warring age is one very particular thread of light — the supposed

appearance of a totally new being who heralds a new age of

consciousness. "

 

Yatri, Unknown Man, Simon and Schuster, 1988, cover-flap — p. 11.

 

 

John, i am presuming that only great ancient souls who served the

Adi Shakti since time immemorial will be granted the rarest of all

privileges, the supreme ability and honor to meet Her in their

Sahasraras. (i do not regard myself to be one of them.)

 

" There are many great souls I know that have taken birth daringly

into societies which are very much, I should say, deteriorating and

are in danger of getting destroyed because of stupidity they do. "

 

Shri Nitya-yauvana Devi, Sahasrara Puja, Cabella — May 7, 1995

Shri Nitya-yauvana (430th): Ever young and untouched by time as it

is Her creation.

 

Shri Mataji is trying to prove:

 

1. that She is indeed the Adi Shakti who exists in the Sahasrara;

2. that Lord Jesus' Kingdom of God within is a reality;

3. that She will continue guiding internally after Her physical

incarnation leaves earth;

4. that humans need hard evidence of Her numerous extra-ordinary

claims;

5. that Her mind-boggling claims must be experienced and verified

by third-party observers;

6. that SYs should just witness Her Play and not react..

 

What, John, are you trying to prove?

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

> shriadishakti , " sahajhist " <sahajhist>

> wrote:

> > Dear papa Jagbir,

> >

> > The following article may be of interest:

> >

> > Voaden, Rosalynn, and Stephanie Wolff (2000) `Visions of my

> > youth: representations of the childhood of medieval visionaries'

> > Gender and History 12(3):665-684

> >

> > There's a pdf of this article available in the sahajhist group

> > (Files - Medieval Europe)

> >

> > J

>

>

> What, John, are you trying to prove?

>

> jagbir

 

 

All I'm doing is passing onto you a reference to an interesting

article. That's all. Nothing else was intended.

If you dont want my participation in your group please indicate.

J

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " sahajhist " <sahajhist>

wrote:

> > shriadishakti , " sahajhist "

<sahajhist>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear papa Jagbir,

> > >

> > > The following article may be of interest:

> > >

> > > Voaden, Rosalynn, and Stephanie Wolff (2000) `Visions of my

> > > youth: representations of the childhood of medieval

visionaries'

> > > Gender and History 12(3):665-684

> > >

> > > There's a pdf of this article available in the sahajhist group

> > > (Files - Medieval Europe)

> > >

> > > J

> >

> >

> > What, John, are you trying to prove?

> >

> > jagbir

>

>

> All I'm doing is passing onto you a reference to an interesting

> article. That's all. Nothing else was intended.

> If you dont want my participation in your group please indicate.

> J

 

John,

 

What has that 'interesting' article got to do with Shri Mataji and

Sahaja Yoga? What are you infering by mere reference? Why has the

Dark Ages got to do with this Age of Light?

 

Your last false claim about Shri Mataji was quickly picked up by

Simon:

 

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

> Now i am insisting that the Adi Shakti, not God Almighty, is on

> Earth.

 

For the record, this statement is incorrect.

 

I will say no more publically. Those that know, know.

 

J

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

The writer, Sahajhist, was clearly implying that God the

Father was incarnate on earth and that is not just a

personal point of view.

 

Jagbir challenged him on it and Sahajhist diplomatically

withdrew to the position that nobody can say for sure.

 

I suspect this is the old belief that CP is God the Father

re-emerging. It's worth picking up on because, with Mataji

dying, this belief could have a big influence on who takes

over the cult. How about God the Father taking over?

 

Just speculating.

 

Best, SD

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

And John, just for the record, i must let you know that some readers

fled this forum when you and Akplogan insisted that God Almighty was

on Earth. Be assured that seekers will flee Sahaja Yoga when they

hear similar claims.

 

Since 1994 i have heard a few SYs claiming that Shri Mataji is God

Almighty even though She has never ever claimed so. i was very

agitated by such false claims but could not do anything since i knew

i would be 'penalized'. Moreover, i was not sure of the difference

between Adi Shakti and God Almighty.

 

But now i am absolutely sure and that is why i told you not to put

words in Shri Mataji's mouth. Newcomers get very frightened with

such claims. i would have fled Sahaja Yoga if anyone had told me

that God Almighty was walking on Earth, but for my children.

 

So please thread very carefully, especially where Shri Mataji is

concerned ......... whether at Cabella or in the Sahasrara.

Fanatical SYs like you who make false claims cause far more damage

than foolish ones.

 

i have deleted both your posts and Akplogan's regarding the false

claim about Shri Mataji being God Almighty. If you feel offended you

are at liberty to leave this forum.

 

 

jagbir