Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:55:25 -0700 sahajhist <sahajhist wrote: >I will withdraw from this forum, just as I >> >withdrew from the response forum when Ivan began his sanitisation >of >the recent history of Sahaja Yoga. I don't know what on earth you are talking about John. Out of several hundred messages on the SYR i have only deleted 2 of them. And this was because they both contained insults against Shri Mataji. Perhaps you would prefer those two msgs remain? I have had no other editing in the archives at all, so what do you mean by " sanitation " ? If you mean the three ground rules we set down, then you will note that apart from rule 1, (no insults against HHSM), we have consulted and put to the vote the other protocols and we were democratic about that and no-one objected. No-one at all. Including you, who actually wanted far stricter discussion rules than myself. If by " sanitation " you mean the honest and sincere testimonies of SYogis that we have published then i can reveal here that you yourself have written off list congratulating us on the success of our transparent publications. Especially over the School. With the exception of one single topic, which you since declined and admitted you were wrong about, and conceded that i was telling the truth. Don't bear grudges in your liver, John. No-one is trying to take away your mantle of number 1 historian in SY, but if you could let go of your attached ego about it you would start behaving honestly and not taking sly pot shots at SYogis who have been doing a better job in the last six months against Cult SDM than you and your peers have done in the preceding six years. Jai Shri Mataji Ivan Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger & l=434 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate & l=427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 I dont know what this is all about, but I cannot believe that one Sahaja Yogi can be this aggressive about another Sahaja Yogi. Weird (and sad). V shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:55:25 -0700 sahajhist <sahajhist> > wrote: > >I will withdraw from this forum, just as I > >> > >withdrew from the response forum when Ivan began his sanitisation > >of > >the recent history of Sahaja Yoga. > > > I don't know what on earth you are talking about John. > > Out of several hundred messages on the SYR i have only deleted 2 of them. > > And this was because they both contained insults against Shri Mataji. > > Perhaps you would prefer those two msgs remain? > > I have had no other editing in the archives at all, so what do you mean > by " sanitation " ? > > If you mean the three ground rules we set down, then you will note that > apart from rule 1, (no insults against HHSM), we have consulted and put > to the vote the other protocols and we were democratic about that and > no-one objected. > > No-one at all. Including you, who actually wanted far stricter discussion > rules than myself. > > If by " sanitation " you mean the honest and sincere testimonies of SYogis > that we have published then i can reveal here that you yourself have > written off list congratulating us on the success of our transparent > publications. > > Especially over the School. > > With the exception of one single topic, which you since declined and > admitted you were wrong about, and conceded that i was telling the truth. > > Don't bear grudges in your liver, John. No-one is trying to take away > your mantle of number 1 historian in SY, but if you could let go of your > attached ego about it you would start behaving honestly and not taking > sly pot shots at SYogis who have been doing a better job in the last > six months against Cult SDM than you and your peers have done in the > preceding six years. > > Jai Shri Mataji > > Ivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Dear Ivan Your aggressive response merely shows the correctness of my decision to withdraw from the Response group. You know full well that I had and still have concerns about the WR chronology which is excellent for the specifics relating to the Mooladhara problems, but rather less satisfactory regarding the overall impression. (btw, others from that era I have contacted also have similar concerns) As to the 'sanitisation' of sahaja yoga history, the jury is still out. There's a lot of vested interests here - as the Swiss loan/donation/whatever is currently demonstrating. Having said that I applaud your rehabilitation of the late Rustom's reputation. The response on the School also looks promising, though SDM's witness statements still have to be dealt with. As to this 'no.1 Sahaj historian' garbage, it doesnt interest me. I'm still researching and learning, and yes, passing it on to others. But I still regard Dan Costian (Bible Enlightened) as the doyen in the field (Gregoire also). One day I too will write my book, but until then I have a commitment to sharing research through pdf and email. Ivan, do try to focus your aggression on the main target. Jai Shri Mataji John Ps. Now please may I and get on with my life? shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:55:25 -0700 sahajhist <sahajhist> > wrote: > >I will withdraw from this forum, just as I > >> > >withdrew from the response forum when Ivan began his sanitisation > >of > >the recent history of Sahaja Yoga. > > > I don't know what on earth you are talking about John. > > Out of several hundred messages on the SYR i have only deleted 2 of them. > > And this was because they both contained insults against Shri Mataji. > > Perhaps you would prefer those two msgs remain? > > I have had no other editing in the archives at all, so what do you mean > by " sanitation " ? > > If you mean the three ground rules we set down, then you will note that > apart from rule 1, (no insults against HHSM), we have consulted and put > to the vote the other protocols and we were democratic about that and > no-one objected. > > No-one at all. Including you, who actually wanted far stricter discussion > rules than myself. > > If by " sanitation " you mean the honest and sincere testimonies of SYogis > that we have published then i can reveal here that you yourself have > written off list congratulating us on the success of our transparent > publications. > > Especially over the School. > > With the exception of one single topic, which you since declined and > admitted you were wrong about, and conceded that i was telling the truth. > > Don't bear grudges in your liver, John. No-one is trying to take away > your mantle of number 1 historian in SY, but if you could let go of your > attached ego about it you would start behaving honestly and not taking > sly pot shots at SYogis who have been doing a better job in the last > six months against Cult SDM than you and your peers have done in the > preceding six years. > > Jai Shri Mataji > > Ivan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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