Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti, Thank you for the contributions on a core SY issue which will more sooner than later be addressed, even forced upon those resisting. Since my views are clear-cut and unambiguous - THE LAST JUDGMENT MUST BE ANNOUNCED - i will add my two cents worth of comments on all replies so far on an individual basis. Furat: > I have noticed that those among us, who are dairy and sincere in > their desire to spread SY, take heed and seriously consider Jagbir' > challenge to start announcing the Last Judgement. And yet because > of that find themselves a bit confused over this idea. > > The experienced ones say that it is not in our nature as humble > seekers to force ourselves through the minds of the public, when it > is solely the personal experience and the realisation of the heart, > which moreover can only be passed on by those of the conviction of > the heart, that leaves an everlasting impression on the audience, > seeker or not. > i have no idea that speaking the truth violates the sacred sanctuary of the minds of the public. This is a dangerous inhibition to condition SYs further, the shabda jalam or confusion of words. To say that we SYs are mentally forcing the truth on the minds of the public is like making comparison with using physical torture to extract it. This reasoning weakens our resolve and dynamism to propagate Shri Mataji's message to humanity. After all, we are forcing Her message on the public and are thus guilty of, to put it very strongly, crimes against humanity. This is such a self- defeating negativity, one that must be prevailing since the 'experienced ones' say it. And i will leave others to interpret this shabda jalam of a quote: " it is solely the personal experience and the realisation of the heart, which moreover can only be passed on by those of the conviction of the heart, that leaves an everlasting impression on the audience, seeker or not. " All i know is that after more than twenty years there is extremely little and far in between to show any results. Furat: > adishakti.org is a wonderful website, whose main use for the future > would seem to be educating the newly realised masses. But so far > some might argue that it is likely that more people have received > their SR upon having visited the official website, rather than > Jagbir's or Gregoire's, for that matter (and though this is a bit > exaggerated, I hope you get my point). > > My opinion on this matter is that this is only another case of > Shabda Jalam, confusion of words, between Sys. > i wish to let it be known that SY websites are set up to draw the public interest in Sahaja Yoga. The www.adishakti.org and www.al- qiyamah.org websites are frank and forthright to a fault, the paramount purpose being to announce the Last Judgment / Al-Qiyamah and provide evidence that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti. SYs are not so much confused by the wealth of knowledge that upholds Shri Mataji's divinity and message, than as by the possibility of children meeting Her in their own Sahasraras. Just like Yogi Mahajan, they refuse to believe that the Golden Goddess within grants Her Grace to some of Her ancient devotees who have followed Her advent on this Earth ................... just like so many of us. My question is why doubt Her granting spiritual audience to those invited into the Sahasrara when none question those privileged to physically meet Her at Cabella? Furat: > Muslims do just sit and await for somebody to start announcing the > Qiyamat and the arrival of the Mahdi. > > However, because of the unfavourable political situation this > cannot happen more openly yet. The Muslim world is, after all, one > cultural unit, so if one thing appears at one of its corners, it > has to spread at once to the other. It is most probable that the > Muslim world will be the last place to hear the News, but because > of its spiritual awareness will accept it instantly on a mass > level, whereas the Western world would still be struggling to > comprehend the whole point of spiritual ascent (which is the price > for having been the first to hear and receive few but strong > yogis). > > So in order for a suspicious seeker of Muslim background to stay in > SY and become just as pious in his daily meditation and devotion to > Shri Mataji as in his previous ritualistic lifestyle, he has to be > simply informed of the true essence of SY as being the `Ihsan', > i.e. fulfilment of Islam, and HHSM being the Mahdi, directly upon > his SR. > If Muslims are sitting and awaiting for the announcement of Qiyamat and the arrival of the Mahdi, which they definitely are, then this great expectation begs for the announcement of Shri Mataji. When the Koran upholds the announcement and explanation of Qiyamat by a divine personality sent by God Almighty, then Muslims must be told so. Since their level of spiritual awareness will allow acceptance on a mass level why are SYs not willing to trigger this eventuality? Yes, Sahaja Yoga is the fulfillment of Islam and Shri Mataji is the Imam Mahdi who upholds the Koran and declares Qiyamat to all humanity. Why should even a single Muslim object to the very possibility of humankind accepting their Koran, something they have desired and struggled for centuries? ................ and still continue today with faith and conviction. And there is no need for any conversion to another religion just to accept Qiyamat. Let me quote Balwinder's post # 714: " I have no hang up about that because I believe Islam is one of the best religions in the world and thus see no reason for any Muslim to convert. The way it is practiced by some in many parts of the world leaves much to be desired and due to these people the religion is nowadays very much misinterpreted. SY is not a religion and thus there is no question of conversion for any person practising any faith ....... Jesus Christ , Lord Buddha , Prophet Muhammad and all the saints never came to earth to start a religion but to give the right direction to human being in order to ascent to a higher level. " So no one is forced to abandon their faiths in order to participate in Qiyamat. On the contrary, not only is their own faith strengthened but other religions accepted as well. For the first time in human history we are at the threshold of uniting all nations, peoples and religions, and reverse centuries of antagonism and fundamentalism that have so divided and alienated fellow human beings. But Sahaja Yoga is not going to unite, only its essence. Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment and it is the latter that will rally humanity. Neither is Sahaja Yoga convince Muslims. It is the Qiyamat that Sahaja Yoga explains in detail that will convince Muslims to surrender to the will of God Almighty. It is time we SYs speak less of Sahaja Yoga and more of the Last Judgment and Qiyamat. Furat: > So I do not see any particular fault with Jagbir's approach, except > that he might be forgetting one thing, the very same thing that we > forget as well when listening to him: what he is doing is because > of what his intuition, impulse or inspiration tells him to do, and > that different people have different such impulses. > Yes, that is true Furat. Now i have realized that SYs need to be awakened to a higher consciousness and inspired to announce Shri Mataji's core message to humanity without fear or inhibition. i am not suggesting that we stand at street-corners with placards and shout at passers-by: " It is the Last Judgment. " No, nothing even remotely resembling this fundamentalist evangelism that so frighten seekers away. All we need are SY websites explaining - for the first time in history - that the Last Judgment and Qiyamat is a great universal awakening to a new Truth, peace, hope and promise of eternal life. SYs have to undo more than two millennia of frightening conditioning that the Last Judgment and Qiyamat means the end of the world. It is a massive task that requires prodigious amount of dedication, dynamism and energy. Shri Mataji has stood alone for the three decades trying to awaken the human race. What can She do today when, even after sacrificing so much so so long, most of Her devotees have little faith and conviction to do so on Her behalf? Furat: > But simply talking about strange religious stuff, such as > Resurrection and Doomsday, causes a bit of a problem. Spirituality > may be hip, but the Bible and the Koran are tales of entertainment > of the past. How can you talk of the Last Judgement with somebody > who hasn't even had SR? How can anybody feel he has had SR after > having attended a couple of once-a-week programs? How can you talk > of these things in a society that doesn't have the basic > traditional understanding of the civilisation having a concrete > purpose and the evolution moving not randomly but towards a goal? > Many parts of the Bible may be tales of entertainment but not the Koran which was revealed directly to Prophet Muhammad. The Bible has many strange authors who say funny stuff. For that reason i only seek the words spoken by Lord Jesus or his disciples. But the Koran cannot be insulted because not only is it a direct revelation from God but also the heart and soul of Qiyamat, which we SYs are surrendered to. Moreover, the Koran also confirms that the entire chapter on Qiyamat, i.e., Surah 75 Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection) will be announced and explained in detail. Shri Mataji has done exactly that. So how can we degrade it as a source of entertainment? Furat: > Basically such issues can only be discussed with sincere seekers of > Truth. And in that regard I agree that it is dishonest not to > provide them with the full information. But as far as I can > remember, I myself felt this way only in the first months after > coming into contact with a local collective. > i have always maintained that it is dishonest to withhold the truth. But to withhold God Almighty's message of the Last Judgment and Qiyamah to humanity is a unspeakable act of dishonesty and hypocrisy that has no parallel in history. My conscience does not allow me to be party to this prevailing and deliberate withholding of the promised salvation. It is plainly false and against the very essence of my Self-Realization. Furat: > The misunderstanding I am talking about here, is that the time > might very well be ripe to start addressing the people who are > supposed to be the experts on these issues, clerics and scholars, > the self-proclaimed keepers of this knowledge. But it does it mean > going to a local church, requesting to hold a lecture? > Shri Mataji has challenged all religious leaders and institutions to destroy Her declaration of Truth. The www.adishakti.org has this notice in clear print posted at the entrance: " This site is thus also an open book and challenge to all guardians of religious regimes — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas — to rebut and prove Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's message of the Kingdom of God, Resurrection and Last Judgment false. Skeptics, atheists or any anti-cult organization, especially those specializing in busting fake gurus and false claims, are most welcome. Should the high priests of organized religions fail to do so, a forgone conclusion of which we are absolutely assured, they should refrain from further misleading and dividing fellow beings on religious, spiritual and mystical issues that are beyond their present comprehension. The religious elite should begin to realize that the sun is now setting on their evening empires which are crumbling into sand, and from those ruins is breaking the Dawn of Resurrection and Last Judgment that will awaken the human race from their long spiritual lumber, and unite them in Collective Consciousness. " So far i have been waiting for even a single person to disagree, despite proclaiming all that SYs fear to say in public. After 3 1/2 years and thousands of monthly visitors such a possibility is getting ever more remote, even though the site is 60% completed. All this just proves that all our fears of public retaliation and media feeding frenzy are unfounded and baseless. i add, albeit reluctantly, that we are our own worse enemies. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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