[shriadishakti] Evangelism or concern for others? (response to Ivan)

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Jag, you are a true scholar, and in my view, a true prophet. A great

Soul who was born to do this great work you are doing.

 

JSM

 

 

On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 06:21:33 -0700 jagbir singh <adishakti_org

wrote:

>shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote:

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>> You're right, Doc.

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>> And it's a wonderful debate.

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>> i was so much in awe of what Jag and Furat had already written

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>> that i didn't feel i could add anything myself as worthy, and

>> probably i'm guessing that many others felt that way too.

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>Ivan,

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>Dr. Shahid Athar writes in " Millennium — An Islamic Perspective "

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>(Millennium & Religions Conference. Chicago, Nov 20, 1995):

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> " By the token of time (through the Ages), man is in a state of loss,

 

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>except those who truly believe, act correctly and act together in

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>mutual counsel of Truth and patience' (Al- Asr 103).

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>The Islamic calendar does not start with the birth or the death

>of a

>person, but with an event, the migration of believers from

>oppression to freedom, freedom to practice 'submission to the will

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>of God' in order to attain peace within and around. The advent of

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>Prophet Jesus (Alaih Salaam-peace be upon him) was similarly an

>epochal event in the history of humankind. The Qur'an calls him

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>a 'sign', a 'mercy', a 'witness' and an 'example'. He is Messiah,

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>Messenger, Prophet, Servant, Word and Spirit of God. The calendar

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>may not be exactly precise but the millennium can serve as an

>important point of reference in the Divine scheme of message and

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>revelation. And take us into the future.

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>The future is very dear to us. Even if it has not arrived yet, the

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>future is already in our thoughts. On the other hand, the past is

>a

>collection of good and bad experience, its use is in shaping the

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>present and shaping the future. . . .

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>Muhammad, (SAWS- Allah's Mercy & Peace be upon him), task, defined

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>in the Qur'an, is to be 'a giver of the glad tidings as well as a

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>warner'. The Our'an reminds us of nations who were destroyed -

>because they had rebelled and disobeyed - and gives us a glimpse

>of

>the life in hereafter of people who do good and who love and obey

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>God. In the scheme of divine revelation, the past, present and the

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>future are one continuum. . . .

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>In Islam service to humanity is a function of their duty towards

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>God. The Qur'an says: 'And from among you there must be a society,

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>community or party that should invite people to all that is good

>and

>enjoin the doing of all that is right and forbid the doing of all

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>that is wrong.' (Ali-'Imran, 3:104)

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>In inviting people to goodness and forbidding from the wrong,

>Muslims will need to join hands with other believers who share a

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>great deal of these values about good and bad and about right and

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>wrong. The conflicts that we witness today are not conflicts between

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>religions, they are conflicts of irreligion. Therefore, those who

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>believe in God and know the right from the wrong - Jews, Christians

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>and Muslims, especially - can join together to build a not a

>perfect, but an incomparably better world than we live in today:

>a

>society of neighbors who are just and fair to each other.

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>The second half of the millennium has seen two world and several

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>local wars. It saw nuclear incineration of entire populations. It

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>invented a savage new crime against humanity: ethnic cleansing. The

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>new millennium ought to be different. Let the people of faith and

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>goodwill work together to turn it into a thousand years of peace

>and

>prosperity, love and mutuality.

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>Prophet Muhammad, (SAWS- Allah's Mercy & Peace be upon him), has

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>foretold that 'after many years of bad times, an era will come when

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>humanity will re-commit itself to God and there will be peace and

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>prosperity in the whole world.'

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>On the threshold of the next millennium, Muslims have a duty towards

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>the world and towards the fellow humans. It is their unilateral

>obligation to invite others, and to work together in building a

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>better and a peaceful world: a world which is free from oppression

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>and exploitation, where rights are a reality and where justice

>prevails over hypocrisy. "

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>QUESTION 1: What will bring forth this era " when humanity will re-

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>commit itself to God and there will be peace and prosperity in the

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>whole world " - frustration of chakras catching that require the

>inconvenience of multiple footsoaks or fear of transgressing during

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>the Age of Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection) and judgment in the

>Hereafter?

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>QUESTION 2: Will Muslims surrender to the subtle system of Sahaja

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>Yoga or the Al-Qiyamah of their Koran?

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>jagbir

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[Guest guest]

Jag,

 

This forum just gets better and better, and as Furat has already said

is history in the making.

 

You are at the center of the spearhead of the real Advent of Sahaja Yoga

and what it is, i have no doubt.

 

Jai Shri Adi Shakti

 

 

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 08:24:35 -0700 jagbir singh <adishakti_org

wrote:

>shriadishakti , <ivanpavinsky@h...> wrote:

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>> Jag, you are a true scholar, and in my view, a true prophet. A

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>> great Soul who was born to do this great work you are doing.

>>

>

>Ivan,

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>There are many great souls who followed the Adi Shakti. Most are

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>still in hibernation despite SR, unable to awaken from self-imposed

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>inhibition and conditioning. Some are already stirring from this

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>long slumber and learning to be their own masters. A few have

>responded to the call of duty and fully conscious of their pledge,

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>prior to taking birth, to sacrifice all in service of the Adi Shakti.

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>It is such a honor and privilege to be among the first of the

>messengers who dared announce the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah (The

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>Resurrection). All the eternal souls in the Kingdom of God await

>the

>triumphant return of these great souls who followed the Adi Shakti

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>to awaken humanity to this Great News of God Almighty.

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>Why do you think we SYs are privileged to witness Her advent on

>>

>Earth in the first place? So awaken to your own glorious past lives

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>and battle for the Adi Shakti fearlessly. You will only be

>acknowledged a great soul by proving so, not assuming that title

>by

>attending 108 pujas and basking in the reflected light of

>worshipping the Adi Shakti.

>

>We SYs were never here for this mundane purpose, nor telling others

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>about the subtle system which even Shri Mataji explained so few

>times. Her message to humankind was not, is not and never will be

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>about the subtle system, chakras or kundalini. It is time to stop

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>this deception.

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>jagbir

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