Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti, Recently i had a short exchange of emails with a Muslim brother regarding www.adishakti.org. Since he wanted to know whether it was Muslim site or not, i forwarded him to www.al-qiyamah.org. He then posed a question to be replied only in one word: " Do you know in a 'word' as what to the others have failed to try to explain the surah Al-Nur? " and, upon getting the answer " God " , wrote this reply: " On your answer which very few individual were enlightened unless and only those that have been guided, can answer it. Take care as we have yet to complete finishing our individual path charted for us in this mortal mother earth. Regards. Your Brother. " What i am trying to impress is that Muslims are receptive to the truth of their Koran as enlightened by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. As long as SYs do not explain Sahaja Yoga with reference to the Koran, or continue engaging in too many unnecessary rituals that are so alien to these people, we will continue to experience a severe drought of seekers. As i have repeated so often, the religious masses will only be interested if their scriptures are upheld and accepted together with their revered messenger. And if SYs think that the subtle system is such a big deal just ask any Hindu, Sikh, Jain or Buddhist about chakras or kundalini. 99% of them will have no idea what you are talking about. It is no better with Jews, Christians and Muslims. Q: So how are we going to reach the masses when they know their scriptures never told them to learn about all this strange stuff? Q: Why should they do so if they can find salvation in their places of worship? Q: Why should they even give two hoots to Sahaja Yoga in the first place? jagbir A: Ever heard of the Last Judgemnt, Messiah, Comforter, Shekinah, Al- Qiaymah, Ruh of Allah, Shri Kalki, Eykaa Mayee, Maitreya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 > > What i am trying to impress is that Muslims are receptive to the > truth of their Koran as enlightened by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > As long as SYs do not explain Sahaja Yoga with reference to the > Koran, or continue engaging in too many unnecessary rituals that > are so alien to these people, we will continue to experience a > severe drought of seekers. > Dear SYs, i have come across the details of executing the cotton string left- side catch-clearer that so exicited SYs a few years ago: ---------- PRACTICE FOR CLEANSING THE LEFT SIDE Using pure cotton, roll it into a thin string between both hands while saying, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY LEFT SIDE AND MAKE IT ENTER THIS STRING. " We tie the FIRST KNOT and press it between both hands where the MOOLADHARA is placed (on the base of the palms) and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY WHICH IS IN MY MOOLADHARA AND MAKE IT ENTER IN THIS KNOT. " We wait 1-2 minutes and we feel a kind of vacuum inside us, and we should fill it with divine qualities saying, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE MAKE ME AN INNOCENT AND WISE PERSONALITY. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Ganesha. We tie the second knot and press it between the thumbs and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY AND IMPURE KNOWLEDGE WHICH ARE IN MY LEFT SWADISTAN AND MAKE THEM ENTER INTO THIS KNOT. " After a short time we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE GIVE ME THE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF SAHAJA YOGA. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Nirmala Vidya. We tie the third knot and press it between the middle fingers and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY LEFT NABHI AS DISSATISFACTION AND MATERIALISM AND LET IT ENTER IN THIS KNOT. " After a short time we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE LET ME BECOME A PEACEFUL AND SATISFIED PERSONALITY. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Gruha Laxmi. We tie the fourth knot and press it between the little fingers and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY LEFT HEART AS RACISM, SARCASM AND ALL KINDS OF ATTACHMENTS AND LET IT ENTER INTO THIS KNOT. " After a short time we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE GIVE ME A LITFLE BIT OF YOUR UNLIMITED LOVE IN MY HEART AND GIVE ME THE FEELING THAT I LOVE EVERYONE EQUALLY. Then we say the Mantra of Shri Shiva Parvati. We tie the fifth knot and press it between the index fingers and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY LEFT VISHUDDHI AND LET ALL THE FALSE FEELINGS OF GUILT ENTER INTO THIS KNOT. " After a short time we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE MAKE ME A REAL SISTER OR BROTHER TO EVERYONE THAT IS CARRYING THE MARIADA INSIDE THEMSELVES. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Vishnumaya. We tie the sixth knot and press it between the ring fingers and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY LEFT AGNYA AND ALL BAD THINGS I HAVE DONE TO MYSELF AND PLACE IT INTO THIS KNOT AND LET ME FORGIVE EVERYONE WHO HAS DONE HARM TO ME. " After a short time we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE GIVE ME ALL THE QUALITIES OF SHRI MAHAVIRA. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Mahavira. We tie the seventh knot and press it between both palms and we pray, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE TAKE OUT ALL THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS IN MY SAHASRARA AND MAKE IT ENTER THIS KNOT. SHRI MATAJI PLEASE MAKE ME AN INTEGRATED, UNIVERSAL, COLLECTIVE AND HUMBLE PERSONALITY. " Then we say the Mantra of Shri Kalki. Then we hold the upper part of the string and close the left hand with the string in it. The right hand is opened towards Shri Mataji's picture and we say, " SHRI MATAJI PLEASE GIVE ME ALL THE QUALITIES OF SHRI MAHAKALI AND LET ALL HER POWER BE MANIFESTED INSIDE ME. " Now we give a bandhan with 9ut right hand over the string while we say the Mantra of Shri Mahakali. After that we put the string in a little bit of mustard oil, of if we don't have any, then we can ask Shri Mataji for permission to use olive oil. With scissors or tweezers we hold the upper part of the string and with a candle we start to burn the knots and we say the Mantra of SHRI SHOUDHIA ICHCHIA until all the knots are burned and throw the rest into the toilet. Then we should open our left hand to the photograph of Shri Mataji and our right hand on the earth until we feel the cool breeze on the left hand so we get the balance. After that we can go into deep meditation for 10 minutes. This should be done twice a day - morning and evening - for 1-2 weeks or maybe for one month depending on the state of your left side. ----------[unquote] Q 1: Was this method revealed by Shri Mataji or invented by some 'important' SY? Q 2: Can the left side be cleared if we SYs just request Shri Mataji to do so, and forgo the need to coax and coerce the negativity into specific knots before drowning it in mustard oil? Q 3: Is it possible for me to just ask my Mother Kundalini to heal and guide me, instead of going through all this elaborate ritual for the rest of my life? (i know the left side, unlike the right, will always catch.) Q 4: Is it heretical to suggest that Shri Mataji's method of Self- realization or Kundalini awakening -- the 'second birth of the spirit' (Bible), also known as the 'Baptism of Allah' (Koran), opening of the 'Dsam Duar' or Tenth Door (Guru Granth Sahib) -- is so powerful and self-empowering a spiritual experience to the seeker that not a single ritual is required? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 > > > > What i am trying to impress is that Muslims are receptive to the > > truth of their Koran as enlightened by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > > As long as SYs do not explain Sahaja Yoga with reference to the > > Koran, or continue engaging in too many unnecessary rituals that > > are so alien to these people, we will continue to experience a > > severe drought of seekers. > > > > > Dear SYs, > > i have come across the details of executing the cotton string left- > side catch-clearer that so exicited SYs a few years ago: > ........... > ......... > ....... > > Q 1: Was this method revealed by Shri Mataji or invented by > some 'important' SY? > Dear All, As i suspected this knots-on-a-cotton-string ritual is the product of a fertile imagination. One SY replied that he never heard Shri Mataji mentioning or asking SYs to use this method: " Most probably a kind of mixture of both, i.e. Shri Mataji might have given such a treatment to a specific case and some " clever " people have tried to make a sensation in SY by trying to make a fuss about it. Well, " I " never heard Shri Mataji Herself asking SYs to do that. Though it was a big fashion for a while, I personally never did, not was asked to do this " treatment " . " The question now arises: How many treatments are figments of such imaginations? The SY also admitted that the left-side cannot be cleared, which is true as the past is dwelled upon more than the future. If this is so then are we SYs to continue daily rituals to clear catches (you will be surprised at how many do so), or leave it to the Mother Kundalini to heal and nourish blocked or malfunctioning chakras? If the later is the logical and natural way - as unconscious as the senses of breathing, hearing, smelling etc. - to overcome the pepertual problem of the left-side, why continue to insist on endless rituals? A few weeks ago i had a discussion with a long established SY regarding treatments such as foot-soaking, lemon and chilly treatment. He was told that these are for people with serious problems, not for those established in Sahaja Yoga. We SYs should not use treatments for minor problems like catches etc., but the majority do and insist others, especially newcomers, follow. My wife talked about this ritualistic SY obsession with me a few days ago while going on a morning stroll. When we joined Sahaja Yoga one of the more unpleasant aspect was the amount of time and energy expanded by established SYs at all collective meetings and meditation sessions to drill the absolute importance of daily ritual cleansing. It was as if one cannot be a good SY unless we foot-soak and religiously follow other cleansing techniques in order to ascend. i still remember some ajwan and herbal smoke treatment. The ladies went into a private room and put that potent spell under their skirts - smoking out the bad bhoots attached or attracted to their moolhadaras! It made me quite embarrased and annoyed that the moolhadara needed to be cleared of sexuality, and that my wife was guilty of having natural drives. But those were the early days of Sahaja Yoga. Both of us have come a long way from those `dark ages`. i am now determined to play my part to eradicate Sahaja Yoga of - among other questionable slef-invented practices - this ritual mentality, and make it into what Shri Mataji envisioned - the peace, joy, bliss and happiness of participating in the Last Judgment, where we humans know in heart, mind and soul that we are all evovling into the eternal spirit. Guilt and rituals have to go and replaced by Sat (Truth) Chit (Consciousness) Anand (Bliss). Jai Shri Mataji, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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