Digest Number 235

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shriadishakti , Pamela Ellis

<musicalenclined> wrote:

> My Dear Brothers and Sisters,

> I am fairly new to this group, only been joined a couple of months

and i have read more bickering and more judgementalism in this group

than in the 2 years that i have been in all of my other spiritual

groups......i was raised in the christian faith and even they got

the ego attitude of i am more spiritual than you are or i have to

real truth,,,,da da da da da.........this is all ridiculous,,,,God

is no respecter of persons and know ye not? that you are the temple

of the Holy Ghost and the Lord says, you need to take the plank out

of your own eye before you can see to take the splinter out of your

brothers eye, or in other words, clean your own doorstep by going

inside through meditation and deal with your own issues which is

between you and God for your own personal walk and not anybody

else....Now the Lord says this: to love the Lord your God with all

of your heart, with all of your soul, with all of your strength and

with all of your mind and the second one is like this: Love thy

> neighbor as thyself and you can hang all of the law and all of

the prophets on these two commandments. How do you accomplish

this????By four easy things: by meditation and communication with

the Lord daily, by Loving, by giving and by forgiveness,,,,,,as a

man thinketh, so is he, so you have to watch what you are thinkng

about and what comes out of your mouth and make sure that it is

lining up with the spirit of God.......now about your

outsides,,,,,,the Lord said this and if you really believe what the

Lord says and know that HE is not a liar, then you will meditate on

this scripture as to why HE said it and what it means......He

said,'it is not what goes in the body that defiles the man, but what

proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.' Then the disciples

came and said to Him, 'do you know that the pharisees were offended

when they heard this statement?' But He answered, 'Every plant which

My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted.... " Let them

alone; they are

> blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man,

both will fall into the pit.

> Peter asked and said, explain the parable to us.' Jesus said,' are

you still lacking in understanding also?' " Do you not understand

that everything that goes into the mouth and passes into the

stomach, and is eliminated? " But what proceeds out of the mouth

comes from the heart, and those things defile the man. " For out of

the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adultries, fornications,

thefts, false witness, slanders. " These are the things which defile

the man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man. "

> The Lord is more concerned about what comes out of your mouth than

what you put into it,,,,so please brothers and sisters, if you

really want peace on this earth and if you truly want the Lord to

come and set up HIS kingdom here,,,,then quit worrying about anybody

else and what they are doing and start worrying about yourselves and

what you are doing and quit judging people by their outside

> appearance or what they eat or what country they live in or the

> color of their skin and start loving thy neighbor as

> thyself,,,,,and start loving thyself so that you can love thy

> neighbor, because we are to serve the Lord in deed and in

> truth,,,not in books and judgement.......now, you can kick me out

> of this group if you want to,,,,but this is a flow from the Holy

> Ghost and i am always willing to be persecuted for Righteousness

> sake.............and this was given in love for the Lord and love

> for His Creation..........

>

> softmelody

>

>

 

Dear Pamela Ellis,

 

Thank you for your reply which could use some ordinary size 10 Arial

fonts in black, with paragraphs.

 

Anyway let's get to the point. You seem generally unhappy with

this forum as there is too much bickering going on. But you should

know we are dealing with a very controversial topic, which is about

Shri Mataji declaring the commencement of the Last Judgment and Al-

Qiyamah.

 

i see you are from a Christian background and not a SY, not that it

matters. You are also at this forum only because it talks about the

Last Judgment, and have not much interest in Sahaja Yoga or Shri

Mataji (correct me if I am wrong). i am sure that if it were only

about Sahaja Yoga, which the majority of official sites by SYs are

all about, you would not really care. i am saying this because I do

not see why Christian seekers want to know about meditation if it

does not concern Lord Jesus Christ. This forum has a substantial

number of non-SYs, perhaps the most among all sites about Sahaja

Yoga and Shri Mataji. Maybe this proves my point that seekers of

other traditions will only be interested in Sahaja Yoga if it

concerns their religious beliefs. (For some reason the majority of

SYs just do not / refuse / cannot acknowledge this fundamental flaw

in spreading Sahaja Yoga.)

 

Pamela, i do not know how deep your faith is about God, or how wide

is your vision regarding the Divine. The problem with many seekers

is one of fanaticism. Do you believe in Prophet Muhammad, the Koran

and it's main theme of Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection)? Have you

been brainwashed to accept only the Bible and regard all other

religious texts as preaching a false god? Do you regard Shri Krishna

or Guru Nanak part and parcel of the Truth, and that refusing to

accept them keeps you in ignorance?

 

i can keep on spinning questions but what i am trying to impress is

that any negative answer by you will subject yourself to the same

bickering that you see in others at this forum. It is easy to

criticize for trying to debate about things that concern deeply held

beliefs, or not announcing the truth, or whatever. Without debate it

is very difficult to express new ideas, or demolish old ones. And

what is more contentious than Shri Mataji's declaration of the

Last Judgment and Resurrection?

 

Then we have certain factions trying to undermine those whom they

presume to be vying for power and attention. The Kingdom of God

within (Sahasara) is a very complex and mystical experience and

those ignorant of it's existence keep insisting that not only is

the Earth flat, but also the center of the Universe. It is only my

good fortune that my children and i were born 500 years later, as by

then burning heretics at the stake has not only become unfashionable

but also illegal. They say the pen is greater than the sword and

that is now my weapon of choice against the SY Inquisitors. This

defense is reinforced by my own self-exile from them. Perhaps the

most impenetrable bastion is my own Sahasrara where i continue to

seek Her guidance and protection.

 

You see, Pamela, i am in a very difficult position as far as

declaring Shri Mataji's the Last Judgment and Resurrection is

concerned. Many of Her own devotees are against publicly announcing

this truth for reasons still unknown, except that it will chase new

seekers away. But that is not true because your presence here

contradicts it, as do many non-SY members of this list. Thank you

for being here.

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

jagbir

 

PS: BTW, i don't see any reason to kick you out for speaking your

mind. This is not divinesahajayoga where non-SYs are not even

permitted to participate, and any strong criticism or questionable

source of knowledge censured. You may stay as long as you like and

hope that over time you will comprehend what has actually taken

place on Earth with the advent of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.